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A lot of noise has been made about the dependence of the other Russian ships in the Black Sea on the Moskva for air defense. We may not know yet exactly how important it's sinking was. | |||
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IF, this was a result of Ukraine's Neptune missile, its a copy of Russia's Kh-35, which is itself a copy of the US's Harpoon anti-ship cruise missile. We've known that Ukraine has been working on this for awhile. Ukraininan industry, during the Soviet-ear, produced all the higher-end, technical machines for Russia, from airplane/helicoptor engines to ship engines and turbines. | |||
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Russian state media now saying that Russia is now engaged in World War 3 against the NATO infrastructure. Reports of Russian long-range bombers carpet bombing Mariupol. Reports 3 days ago indicating that Russian forces had used at least one chemical weapon in Mariupol (no independent confirmation). Ugly stuff. Retired holster maker. Retired police chief. Formerly Sergeant, US Army Airborne Infantry, Pathfinders | |||
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video of Moskva firing missiles at link https://twitter.com/i/status/1388046556679573506 might be the same shot from different angles | |||
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Their people are stupid and brain washed. WW3 against Ukraine maybe but unless vlad comes completely unhinged, he aint messing with NATO Members. Putin knows where the line is. He's moving by rail, mobile ICBM launchers and loads of hardware from 700 miles east of Moscow. Probably set up shop near the Finnish border. This little guy better hope his people never get wind of his "special operation." | |||
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Last week I saw a press release the UK was 'urgently shipping' some of their modern naval missles. | |||
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Maybe this only struck me as so funny from growing up with tons of the Revell kits that always featured the cool paintings on the box art...  Bill R | |||
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What I find interesting is the comments made by our .gov officials stating things like “apparently this or that” With the amount of satellite surveillance we have targeted over this area you would think that we have actual documentation of what happened. Now I can understand not tipping our hand but this should be relatively easy to ascertain exactly what happened. ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That was funny. I remember those Revell kits well. My finished product never looked as cool as the paintings on the box. | |||
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Another WSJ failure? The USS Card, a WWII Bogue-class escort carrier had a loaded displacement of 13,980 long tons (14,200 t) when VC saboteurs sank her alongside a quay in Saigon in 1964. In contrast, Moskva was 12,490 tons displacement. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Looks like Black Watch tartan. Russian or not, still far more attractive than Peppermint Patty on the big screen behind her. Harshest Dream, Reality | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ Go ahead and submit a comment. Guys like you are always writing the WSJ. If you are correct it will be duly noted. Who is your trusted go to source? The New Times or the Washington Post?? | |||
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Yesterday, I came across the embedded video of some gamers trying to duplicate the missile attack to determine how quickly the air defenses could be overwhelmed by these missiles. I do not know much about this DCS game but I assume it is about as accurate as the old Harpoon series? Laughing in the face of danger is all well and good until danger laughs back. | |||
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It seems Putin is angry Ukraine sank his warship. It seems odd, to me, that somebody who'd punched you would complain when you punched back, but there it is. Meanwhile, he's also warning that continuing to ship self-defense matériel to Ukraine would have "unforeseen consequences." Well, I guess he'd be the one to know  (Personally, that kind of threat would tend to encourage me to ship even more to them.) "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Nope. The Card was not a warship when she was sunk by the VC in 1964. She was the former US Navy escort carrier USS Card, but was then being operated as the USNS Card, an unarmed transport ship with a civilian crew. | |||
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Poutine is just pissed that the Ukrainians just didn’t roll over and let him steal their country. As much as I dislike the Ukrainians for their involvement in stealing the 2020 election, every time Poutine drops a ship, tank or loses another general it brings a smile to my face. Not many reasons to be happy these days but I am hoping that someone takes a shot at Poutine and finally puts him out of our misery. | |||
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It has been reported that the UKRs used Bayraktar drones to cause the ship's radar to be mostly engaged in an air attack. So a limited amount of radar may have been available for threats coming in low. Also the ship carried it's cruise missiles above deck, which if they burned would have caused most of the damage. -c1steve | |||
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My trusted source. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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