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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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For something like this BS requirement, I'd go through the trouble of forging a vaccination card and not saying anything. There's no real way to check if someone actually has the vaccine, that I know of. | |||
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probably a good thing I don't have a cut |
And yet people get caught with fake vaccine cards. So they know somehow. | |||
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Actually, the process of getting the vaccine includes reporting up to the county or state levels in many areas. You won't show up in the system if it isn't reported to the system. | |||
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safe & sound |
Big daddy government is making a list, and checking it twice. They are also doing this with the "test to stay" nonsense going on at our local districts. Positive tests are reported to the government. They are only testing unvaccinated. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Slip the nurse $200 to squirt that shit on the floor. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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The question....how many companies are going to go through the process of validating every card they're given? My bet, not many. If I'm a business owner and have decided to knuckle under to this stupidity, I'm taking and filing whatever an employee gives me, and if somewhere down the road the government comes checking (highly unlikely), its all on the employee for handing in a fraudulent vaccination card. The government once again is trying to scare the hell out of business owners to force cooperation. There is no enforcement mechanism in place to address this issue in most states, nor will there be. And in the end, this whole retarded vaccination mandate BS is going to be S'canned by the courts, so why not get ahead of the process and tell the government to get stuffed. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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I talked with my doc. Regardless of justification and willingness, he won't support a medical exemption. He is saying, at least out here, higher up, boards, outside agencies come down hard for exemption requests and such. Basically, the equivalent of harassment and analogous to tax audits. The exemption process here in this state is farcical. So, unless the mandate injunction becomes permanent, I'm looking at premature retirement. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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That rug really tied the room together. |
Ive heard of people getting arrested for that, though I'm not sure what the charge would be?? I also heard that they are building a vaccine registry so it is easier to spot the fakes. Also, they have the lot numbers listed on the card, and they cross reference those. Its going to be harder and harder to fake this. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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Ignored facts still exist |
Yes, my state has this. There is a reason they ask for your DL and DOB on the release form. . | |||
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I "worked" several county-run drive-thru vaccine sites in several conties, as the Civil Air Patrol was asked to help. The county collects your name, address, phone number, email, DL number, and DOB, and it goes into a data base. In return you get a paper card with the drug, lot number, and date handwritten on it. "You'll get an email when it's time for your next shot." I could have grabbed a handful of the blank cards if I wanted to. They were not checking IDs, so you could provide phony info if you wanted to. | |||
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A registry you say? What could possibly go wrong................. "No matter where you go - there you are" | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
Yes there is. The State of Hawaii has already busted several people for forged vaccine cards, which is a Federal Offense. The people they busted were tourists coming over from the mainland. https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/...-fake-vaccine-cards/ Over the last month, 7 visitors have been arrested for allegedly using fake vaccine cards to enter state HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - Since Aug. 1, the state has arrested seven tourists for using fake vaccinations cards to enter Hawaii and bypass the state’s quarantine rules. The latest include Aaliyah Sharif and Maurice Beavers, both of Georgia, who were arrested Tuesday. Chloe Mrozak, of Illinois, was released from OCCC Wednesday. She’s accused of presenting a fake vaccination card that misspelled “Moderna.” They all face up to a year in jail and fines of up to $5,000. | |||
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Internet Guru |
Someone should develop a realistic prosthetic arm for this silly shit. Busting people for forged vaccine cards for a failed 'vaccine' is about the most bizarre shit imaginable and no way is this level of hysteria and government overreach sustainable. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Italian man wears fake arm in crazy attempt to avoid getting COVID-19 jab https://nypost.com/2021/12/03/...-avoid-covid-19-jab/ ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
This was the first I'd heard about it being a federal offense so I did a little Googling. Here is an informative read on fake vaccine cards. It was written by an attorney not a journalist. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Internet Guru |
Ha! I'm not convinced this Italian guy had a bad idea. His execution was just lacking. The only reason he was busted was because his artificial limb wasn't heated and realistic enough...we must do better! | |||
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That is such a weak article, it's almost like the lawyers did it just to drive traffic to their site. Lots of "coulds" and "mights" in there. The federal statute they cite is also very weakly written. IF I were to be caught with a "fraudulent" vaccine card, how would the state prove its case? I wouldn't say a word to them, wouldn't answer a single question, wouldn't sign a HIPAA release for them to check my status, and they'd probably not expend a lot of effort trying to retrace my steps. What if I took Mrs. Lee's real vax card and just changed the name and DL number? How would the state prove that? It's a real vax card, it's just been altered. I didn't affix the seal to it and didn't buy it online or through the mail. I never authorized anyone to keep a record of it and certainly not attach it to my state DL. I don't want to be the test case and I generally won't go anywhere or do anything that requires proof of vaccine status. I have Covid at the moment, so I'll be pretty safe for a while after this. Seems to me, you have to really scream out for prosecution on this issue - screw up some spellings, sell on eBay, accept payment from strangers, etc. | |||
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Yeah - if you can't spell Moderna correctly on your fake card your chances of fooling anyone are very slim. | |||
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I kneel for my God, and I stand for my flag |
I was forced to get the jab or lose my job. I hadn't had a sick day in over a year, but have had to take nine days off since getting the 2nd jab. It made me sicker than hell for three days right after. Now I'm suffering from vertigo, migraines, naseua, ringing in my ears, and shortness of breath. None of which I had before. I'll bet in a few years you'll see commercials on TV for class action lawsuits similar to Round Up and Asbestos. Guess who covers the time off even though it was employer mandated?... | |||
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