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Originally posted by Aeteocles:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:


Discrimination is technically illegal.

Discrimination on the basis of a few particular, expressly stated, protected classes of people is illegal. Under Federal Law, those protected classes are race, color, religion or creed, national origin or ancestry, sex, age, physical or mental disability, veteran status, genetic information, and citizenship.
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So if you had a doc say you had a medical disability and shouldn’t get the jab…?

What piss me off is even fucking China won't openly force their sheep to take the vaccine but here the US is doing so. WTF if going on with this country.

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Originally posted by slosig:

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
If the CEO does not like your political leaning, they now have an easy way to identify you, and kick you to the curb.

Interesting assumption that whether one is willing (perhaps eager) to be vaccinated is now a political decision rather than a medical one. So it really is just a left/right issue rather than based on fears or doubts about the effectiveness of the vaccines, and therefore anyone who takes the shot is just a member of the mindless leftist “sheeple” despite how he may have lived his life and worked for politically up to that point—?

If that is true, then I wonder who will get to decide which camp I and some of my friends and relatives are incarcerated in while awaiting the showers: the far right or the left. Hmm …?

Yeah, it’s not that simple. I know conservative folks who happily took the jab and liberals who won’t take without a hell of a fight.

Somehow, I don’t see you meekly going into a camp for either side sigfreund.

I agree it’s not a left vs right thing. Many of my conservative friends got vaccinated, why, partially out of fear, or trusting the medical community who I feel have been pushed into accepting this new MRNA vaccine by the government.

I really don't understand the hardline approach to this that some companies/state governments insist on taking. Like, the civilian federal services seems to be accommodating most everyone who has asked for an exemption... and they keep delaying any consequence for those who don't bother to ask for one.

Testing is so easy to come by these days, the only reason to take a hardline here is because you hate your workers, or you want to coverup a layoff.

I know many conservatives who got vaccinated, mostly because they wanted to travel a lot.

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
I know many conservatives who got vaccinated, mostly because they wanted to travel a lot.

Might be why I get it this spring

I know many conservatives that have gotten vaccinated.
That is not what I intended to imply.

What I don’t see is liberals refusing to give vaccination status to employers.
What I don’t see is liberals refusing to get vaccinated.
What I don’t see is liberals requesting religious exemption accommodation.

In regards to the thread topic.

“My company terminated 10% of its work force today...
Because of the covid shot mandate.
To say I'm bothered by it would be very sorely understated.”

What portion of that 10% would you think to be liberals?
My assumption is 100% of that 10% did not vote for Joe.

I see liberals damn near gleeful with the mandates.

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
I know many conservatives who got vaccinated, mostly because they wanted to travel a lot.

That would be the only reason I would take the poison. But it’s not going to happen. Guess I’ll be staying home and saving my money.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
Many of my conservative friends got vaccinated, why, partially out of fear, or trusting the medical community who I feel have been pushed into accepting this new MRNA vaccine by the government.

My care meter reading has dropped to zero about many things in the past year, and especially about personal health decisions. In fact, if I expressed my hopes or at least what I’d accept about the pandemic, I’d no doubt be severely admonished. I will, however, point out a couple of facts.

Yes, people get vaccinated and undergo other expensive and/or unpleasant healthcare procedures and treatments out of fear: Fear of experiencing something worse if they don’t. I don’t like having my teeth cleaned or cavities filled, but I submit to them because I fear the consequences of not having them professionally cleaned or small cavities filled before they become large. I don’t enjoy colonoscopies but I undergo them for fear of developing a serious disease that will go undiagnosed otherwise until it’s too late. So, guilty as charged: I also have the oil changed in my car out of fear that if I don’t, my primary means of transportation will stop working.

Not all COVID-19 vaccines are the mRNA variety. Although I believe there are more than the J&J version, that’s at least one which is similar to vaccines that have been in use for decades, if not centuries.

When a disease like this that doesn’t kill many of its victims (in the short term) circulates in a large population, natural mutations will give rise to variants that evade previous treatments and preventative measures. That’s why vaccines against the seasonal influenza must be developed every year, and why they’re only partially effective. If viruses were capable of having desires, they would want to be highly transmissible, but not cause serious symptoms in their hosts, and that’s true of many of them. If a virus is highly lethal, like the MERS virus that was estimated to kill as many as one-third of its victims, the disease tends to burn itself out and not circulate very widely. Precisely because it doesn’t kill many of its victims and there are other reasons why the effects of preventative measures such as vaccinations are limited is why the disease is free to develop many mutated variants, and will continue to do so.

Pretty much my sentiments also Sigfreund

I really need to stop reading these threads, the misinformation about the vaccines is impressive.

First, I am 100% against the mandate from Biden.

Second, the vaccines DO work, at least against the first SARS-COV-2, pretty well against Delta, and we don't know yet against Omicron. The nature of viruses like this is that when they are widely circulating, they will mutate and change, and those changes may make vaccines less effective. The beauty of MRNA technology is that a new vaccine can be made in weeks, traditional vaccines take much longer to develop and then months to produce. It is not poison. And as a physician, I can see amazing potential in this type of technology for treatment of a wide variety of diseases, including cancers. Imagine you get cancer, and along with the biopsy, they sequence the DNA and find what makes those cells different. Then, they make a personalized vaccine to teach your own body to kill your cancer! I believe this will be common place in 10-15 years, maybe sooner.

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Originally posted by barndg00:
I really need to stop reading these threads, the misinformation about the vaccines is impressive.

First, I am 100% against the mandate from Biden.

Second, the vaccines DO work, at least against the first SARS-COV-2, pretty well against Delta, and we don't know yet against Omicron. The nature of viruses like this is that when they are widely circulating, they will mutate and change, and those changes may make vaccines less effective. The beauty of MRNA technology is that a new vaccine can be made in weeks, traditional vaccines take much longer to develop and then months to produce. It is not poison. And as a physician, I can see amazing potential in this type of technology for treatment of a wide variety of diseases, including cancers. Imagine you get cancer, and along with the biopsy, they sequence the DNA and find what makes those cells different. Then, they make a personalized vaccine to teach your own body to kill your cancer! I believe this will be common place in 10-15 years, maybe sooner.

Cool. Once it’s been tested long enough to ensure it won’t blow up my sons heart or prevent my daughter from having babies I’m interested in the CHOICE of getting it. However, C19 is not dangerous enough and the vaccines are not vetted well enough for me to consider giving it to my kids now.

A reckoning is coming for the medical career field.

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Originally posted by barndg00:

Second, the vaccines DO work, at least against the first SARS-COV-2, pretty well against Delta, and we don't know yet against Omicron.

They work the way they were originally promised to? Right. Now who's spreading misinformation about the vaccine?

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Originally posted by barndg00:
I really need to stop reading these threads, the misinformation about the vaccines is impressive.

First, I am 100% against the mandate from Biden.

Second, the vaccines DO work, at least against the first SARS-COV-2, pretty well against Delta, and we don't know yet against Omicron. The nature of viruses like this is that when they are widely circulating, they will mutate and change, and those changes may make vaccines less effective. The beauty of MRNA technology is that a new vaccine can be made in weeks, traditional vaccines take much longer to develop and then months to produce. It is not poison. And as a physician, I can see amazing potential in this type of technology for treatment of a wide variety of diseases, including cancers. Imagine you get cancer, and along with the biopsy, they sequence the DNA and find what makes those cells different. Then, they make a personalized vaccine to teach your own body to kill your cancer! I believe this will be common place in 10-15 years, maybe sooner.

In 10 or 15 years? Experiment on something other than us!!! And don't forget the ever changing definition of a vaccine. Oh by the way when can we expect a vaccine for HIV I'll bet its just a round the corner. Its only been a minute or so!!!! I've said all along MRNA may be the future it just isn't now.

What gets lost is that variants are more contagious but not as deadly. I read the other day that there hasn’t been a death via omicron yet.

These forced vaccinations are ridiculous. We all know these aren’t real vaccines, by definition. The old/real definitions anyways.

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Originally posted by barndg00:
I really need to stop reading these threads, the misinformation about the vaccines is impressive.

First, I am 100% against the mandate from Biden.

Second, the vaccines DO work, at least against the first SARS-COV-2, pretty well against Delta, and we don't know yet against Omicron. The nature of viruses like this is that when they are widely circulating, they will mutate and change, and those changes may make vaccines less effective. The beauty of MRNA technology is that a new vaccine can be made in weeks, traditional vaccines take much longer to develop and then months to produce. It is not poison. And as a physician, I can see amazing potential in this type of technology for treatment of a wide variety of diseases, including cancers. Imagine you get cancer, and along with the biopsy, they sequence the DNA and find what makes those cells different. Then, they make a personalized vaccine to teach your own body to kill your cancer! I believe this will be common place in 10-15 years, maybe sooner.

if the 'vaccines' worked, then you would be immunized

that means you don't get COVID, nor can you spread it

these 'vaccines' don't work, and its easy to figure out - they're not vaccines - they're simplified flu shots

with a polio vaccine you get a booster every 10 years or so. Why are they now talking about a 4th booster after less than 24 months?

simple, the junk they are jabbing into your arm don't work

further, if the vaccines do actually work as you claim, then how do you explain the fact that fully 'vaccinated' are contracting COVID at such high rates...

where are all the people contracting polio? measles?

My company just sent an email saying any employee who has not uploaded a copy of their vax card by Dec 31st will be terminated on Jan 1.

Syngin1066... Stay strong brother. Praying for you.

I suspect I will be in the same boat soon.

A fine example of Fascism.

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
These forced vaccinations are ridiculous.

I’m just gonna start calling it “Needle Rape”.

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Originally posted by Syngin1066:
My company just sent an email saying any employee who has not uploaded a copy of their vax card by Dec 31st will be terminated on Jan 1.

Have you or anyone in your company filed for religious and/or medical exemption?