Originally posted by OKCGene: I don’t know what to say. It just keeps going on and on. The comments are interesting. Check out a few of the comments. This might be illegal
Went to a place for lunch in Utah last week. There was an order kiosk. When our order was ready, our number flashed on a screen. I retrieved it and self served our drinks. We bussed our own table. There wasn’t so much as a single human word to us. The default tip was 25%. For what? I opted out of the tip as I could see the assembling circumstances and no tip was warranted.
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Posts: 30413 | Location: Norris Lake, TN | Registered: May 07, 2008
Have no problem if proper service is given...But a reasonalbe amount and not some mandatory percentage........... Actually have a local very small mom/pop Itialian resturant (they just got back from 1 week being in the OLD Country) that even when picking up a takeout owner we leave a tip for the waitress who packaged the order. ............................................. drill sgt.
Posts: 2277 | Location: denham springs , la | Registered: October 19, 2019
I may be a cheap old grumpy bastard, but I never understood the connection of tip to price of food. I don’t mind tipping well for good service and I have been known to tip low if I get bad service.
If I go to a place that serves $15 cheeseburgers as well as $40 steaks, the server does the same work regardless of what I order.
Why is a $3-$4 tip ok if I order the burger, but I am expected to tip $8-$10 if I go for the steak?
I am seeing lots of “If you don’t tip 25-30% than you should eat at home” messaging. It’s just more of the entitlement mentality from the younger folks that tend to do service jobs. Expect top -ay but don’t connect it to work performance.
What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
Posts: 11662 | Location: Western WA state for just a few more years... | Registered: February 17, 2006
Why is a $3-$4 tip ok if I order the burger, but I am expected to tip $8-$10 if I go for the steak?
Yea, buy a $120 bottle of wine for that steak - 1 min of effort to cork the bottle. How much tip?
I hate this culture of tipping. I avoid Vegas in particular like the plague.
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Posts: 13670 | Location: In the gilded cage | Registered: December 09, 2007
Originally posted by 911Boss: I may be a cheap old grumpy bastard, but I never understood the connection of tip to price of food. I don’t mind tipping well for good service and I have been known to tip low if I get bad service.
If I go to a place that serves $15 cheeseburgers as well as $40 steaks, the server does the same work regardless of what I order.
Why is a $3-$4 tip ok if I order the burger, but I am expected to tip $8-$10 if I go for the steak?
I am seeing lots of “If you don’t tip 25-30% than you should eat at home” messaging. It’s just more of the entitlement mentality from the younger folks that tend to do service jobs. Expect top -ay but don’t connect it to work performance.
I don't know when it started, but the IRS considers a server's tips to be 8% of their shift revenue. So, no matter the amount of work it takes, those servers are taxed on what the IRS assumes is 8% of the revenue they ring up. So it's very much based on the menu price, not the work required to provide the service.
Posts: 4060 | Location: Cave Creek, AZ | Registered: October 24, 2005
Originally posted by Rick Lee: I don't know when it started, but the IRS considers a server's tips to be 8% of their shift revenue. So, no matter the amount of work it takes, those servers are taxed on what the IRS assumes is 8% of the revenue they ring up. So it's very much based on the menu price, not the work required to provide the service.
How can the IRS “assume” income? Employer reports wages paid, server reports tips. How can the IRS force tax on what they may “think” you made?
I’d think keeping track of who rings up what would be way too much data for the IRS to deal with.
What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
Posts: 11662 | Location: Western WA state for just a few more years... | Registered: February 17, 2006
I'm just telling you how it works. I was a server, and if I rang up $1000 of revenue in a shift, my tip revenue was assumed to be $80, no matter what I actually got or how much of it I had to share with the bar, runners, kitchen folks, etc.
Posts: 4060 | Location: Cave Creek, AZ | Registered: October 24, 2005
At an airport earlier this week I was looking for a simple 20oz bottle of Coke Zero to take on board. Found a little sandwich shop that had them so I grabbed one. After being ignored for 5 minutes I was quickly rung up and when I paid that $5 20oz bottle had a mandatory tip with a minimum of 10%.
I paid an extra $0.50 to wait 5 minutes for someone to get off their phone and wait on me.
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Posts: 38685 | Location: Above the snow line in Michigan | Registered: May 21, 2004
One of the few times I still use cash is when we go out to eat. Some restaurants are charging for using a credit card; I avoid that, and I can tip exactly how I want.
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Posts: 16844 | Location: Under the Boot of Tyranny in Connectistan | Registered: February 02, 2005
Here is a new one on me. Just went online to order some baby bird food for delivery, because the neighborhood Petco was out of stock. During checkout, they rang up the total, automatically adding the tip, without even asking. I said WTF is this BS? Had to go through the page and look, finally found it and click on the No Tip. I paid for your delivery fee, already, and you want tip on top of that shit? Unbelievable.
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Posts: 29356 | Location: TEXAS | Registered: September 04, 2008
Tipping is optional. If it's not optional, it's not a tip. You can call it a 'service fee' if you want, but calling it a tip is dishonest. A tip is what you give someone. It's a gift.
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