Reporter: "What type of gun was used?"

What does it FREAKING matter?

Taking questions at this time was absolutely pointless

They're ending it with "I'd like to thank the Academy."

Man, the police used to not do this shit. Yeah, you have great relationships with other agencies. Great. Whatever. Give us the fucking facts and nothing but.

I'm hitting the hay. We'll see what else they'll tell us tomorrow.

If they tell us only one additional thing tomorrow, just give us the shooter's name. This may tell us more than the next five press conferences might.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Reporter: "What type of gun was used?"

What does it FREAKING matter?

Lets see if we can fit this into the "narrative".

Well, that, and the reporter is a clueless, mouth breathing idiot....

I'm hearing 3 dead, 5 hospitalized, most in critical.

At 0200 CDT Fox News reported that there were 3 victim deaths and the shooter offed himself with his gun. The "shelter in place" has been lifted.

flashguy

43 year old black male, not affiliated with the university

As of this morning, it appears that of the major news outlets including Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC et al, only Fox is reporting the race of the shooter.

All these outlets have little to report but they are hiding the race of the shooter. They mention his age and his gender, so, why leave out the race? I wonder if they will even show his photograph, once one is provided by police or found.

"What we know so far." No, it's not what "we" know so far. The rest of "we" know that the shooter was black, but you are withholding one of the few pieces of information provided to you.

1flynDO, please check your email.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
43 year old black male, not affiliated with the university…

A 43 year old male came on the MSU campus to murder eight people and is not affiliated with MSU?

Unless it’s a case of terrorism (unlikely) or a total nut job who randomly shot eight people (impossible to predict), I’ll wager the murderer has some affiliation to one or more of the eight people he shot. Is that an affiliation with the university?

There is an CCTV image of the shooter going around and it’s clear that he is black.

One article I saw stated “possibly black”, it must have hurt them bad to have to say that.

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MSU Police:

Because of the quick release of the suspect photos through our campus security cameras, a caller’s tip was able to lead officers to the suspect.

The shootings started at 8:18 p.m. at Berkey Hall on campus

An MSU alert shared on the university’s website read: “MSU Police report shots fired incident occurring on or near the East Lansing campus. Secure-in-Place immediately. Run, Hide, Fight. Run means evacuate away from danger if you can do so safely. Hide means to secure-in-place, and Fight means protect yourself if no other option.”

The alert was issued at 8:31 p.m. eastern time


short video possibly of shooter walking

https://twitter.com/i/status/1625354607038693382

Anthony McRae

The name tells us the shooter is almost certainly American. He doesn't have one of those idiotic made-up Muslim names disaffected blacks frequently adopt, so it's less likely this was a terrorist attack.

Shit. Glad the dude offed himself and save Michigan the cost of a trial.
As for 'what gun was used', it is important since Whitmer is in her second and last term as Governor. She is no friend of the 2A, which is sad because hunting brought the state more revenue than the Big Three Auto makers did back in the 80s and 90s. And the Big Three have moved their factories. But the hunting is still great. Whitmer's team I would put good money down they have some looking this morning how to use this tragedy to push for more gun control.

The New York Post says the full name is Anthony Dwayne McRae.

More detail: https://mediatakeout.com/michi...lled-w-bible-verses/



The guy was a nut, spouting Bible verse and murdering people.


From his Facebook page. Images related to exorcism and one of those images leads to this: The International School of Exorcism. Also on his Facebook page, he references Luke 10:19 - "Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you."

Also, he references Romans 1:26-28 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done."

...and Psalms 9:17 - "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God."

I guess he thought himself to be the righteous hand of God and the university was a den of iniquity. Easy access, unarmed targets.

I'm guessing the exorcism for Tony didn't work.

So my daughter is fine but exhaustion has set in. Her friend from the MSU shooting team has been shot and is in critical condition. He is on the shotgun team. My kid does pistol and rifle. Others members were with him and cared for him. Sucks all the way around.

Prayers for his family please. He is a nice kid.

And it’s not like he wasn’t known to police. This is an excerpt from the Detroit News today:

But police had been called to the residence before because of the sound of gunshots, Megan Bender said. Megan Bender said Anthony McRae would fire out of the back door of the home, she believed for target practice.

Just watched the "news conference" Disgusting, we had to hear from at least six people before there was any information given. You can bet Greach is going to run with this. I don't wish her on the rest of the country but I hope she gets a job with Biden before she hurts our state even more.

Jim

Really happy to hear she is safe. That's terrifying.

1flynDO I'm glad to hear your daughter is ok, and sorry to hear about her teammate.


This is an incident that will need to be studied, and given the magnitude it will take a while. As noted in previous posts as I was listening to this unfold on the scanner there were reports coming in from buildings across campus of:
- Shots fired
- Suspects with long guns seen outside
- Shots with people screaming
- People trying to gain access to rooms
- a 911 call stating explosives were placed around campus
- vehicles reported pulling up to buildings and dropping boxes
- individuals seen placing objects in trash cans

These reports bounced back and forth all over campus. It wasn't until there were sufficient resources on scene that many of the 'shots fired' calls could be quickly debunked as officers were at location and reported nothing. These reports were coming in like rain and being pushed out to units as fast as possible. They were literally back to back, stacked up if you will, for hours.

I was looking at a campus map and was trying to track where all of the various response units were, and were heading. It got overwhelming very quickly. This of course compounded by the fact that most of the buildings on campus are huge, with hundreds of rooms.

Yes, MSU like every other university has an emergency notification network, however as we know social media is it's own thing and I'll guess that students, in a panic, gave this a life of it's own. Was it all over reaction by students or was it the shooter creating additional chaos? This will all have to be sorted out. Hopefully many lessons will be learned that can aid in future responses.

Once the suspect picture was released, reports began flooding in about possible locations. At the time the suspect was actually located several reports were coming in from residence halls stating he was spotted in a room in the building. The MSP radio traffic about shots fired was through dispatches of officers being sent to follow up on these reports. Additional chaos. Again, all will need to be studied.

1flynDO, I'm relieved to see your kid is safe. Thanks for the update!