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| Green grass and high tides  |
[/QUOTE] Not it you join the #resistance, it's a revolution, we demand justice![/QUOTE] Yep, rock solid alright. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
See that's it, they need all these data centers to crunch the FLOCK data, it's important you know so they can sell more shoes, lawn equipment, wine and other items!  | |||
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My Spidey Sense tells me these two threads could tie together nicely… or at least run very parallel to one another.  Politicians seem to have forgotten that they work for us, not the other way around. — — — — — — — — — — — — God bless America. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Smash the looms! Cast your clogs into the gears! Occupy the data centers! Eat the Tech Bourgeoisie!  | |||
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There are plenty of people who believe that is exactly what these data centers are being built for. | |||
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| The Ice Cream Man |
What is the operating temp of those chips? Evaporative cooling will work in dry, hot environments. Radiant cooling doesn’t. Maybe some kind of thermal banking could work. Might be able to reuse water in a sort of evaporative cooling, but I’ve never heard of it being done. | |||
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| Eye on the Silver Lining |
Exactly this. A town close to me is having this very issue where there were NDA’s signed, it was hush hush, and the area is relatively affluent, surrounded by a type of marshland/woods- the reason people choose to move there these days - pretty much living in nature where you have to look to see your neighbor through the trees. They have several commercially zoned industrial parks in the area where this type of facility would be more appropriate. Up here, there’s tons of tree huggers and nature focused people. I’m surprised whoever is in charge of the project didn’t “read the room”. __________________________ "Trust, but verify." | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^ Where is ‘up here’? ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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| Ammoholic |
I think it isn’t so different from a lot of other projects. The people building them want to build the project that best meets their goals as cheaply and quickly as possible. It is cheaper and quicker to buy off politicians than to convince the public. Building your project as infil, though it probably would be better for the community, means you have more neighbors to be pissed off and fight your project. Finding one (or a few) farmer(s) that you can buy out at a premium may be quicker and easier too. Pristine, untouched land? Not a lot of nearby neighbors to fight the project usually. I’m not pro data center or anti data center, but I recognize that if the folks building the projects and the folks fighting them would work together to figure how to get the projects done with the least impact we’d probably all be happier. Instead, the anti folks just want to kill the project and the pro fooks are focused on beating the antis however they have to. Oh well, at least it gives us some drama to watch. | |||
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Honky Lips |
A bit of wisdom I continually try my damnedest to apply to my own self. A little treat for the naysayers. _____________________________________________ Proverbs 3:31 "Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways." | |||
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safe & sound |
Nobody spends time on things they believe they can't change, which is why things don't change. | |||
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| Thank you Very little |
Yes, isn't that what they teach you, don't get involved, don't question us, you can't win, you can't change it, just go on by, it's not important...... that and you may self identify as a mole... or a purple haired soy boy female incel furry butt goat meat popsicle.... | |||
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| Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^ Millions lost their lives, their livelihoods, and/or were permanently affected because SO MANY just went along and were unwilling to spend their time on things they believe they can't change during COVID! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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| Cogito Ergo Sum |
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| Eye on the Silver Lining |
MN __________________________ "Trust, but verify." | |||
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HRH Queen Gretchen the First just fawned all over a Stargate 1GW Data Center. In MI there are 70+ Data centers. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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| Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^ 1GW...pfft! The Stratos Hyperscale Data Center project in Box Elder County, Utah is planned/proposed at 9GW, and will be situated 40,000 acres, so more than twice the size of Manhattan! These are next gen AI Data Centers are multiple orders of magnitude larger than the current/existing Data Centers! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Slightly off topic, but is anyone feeling like March, 2000? 'The Pricking Is Coming': Dalio Warns AI Bubble Will Burst Like Dot-Com, But Tech Will Endure Bridgewater Associates founder Ray Dalio appeared on Bloomberg TV today and delivered a measured yet cautionary assessment of the artificial intelligence investment frenzy. He highlighted classic bubble dynamics - sky-high valuations, rampant speculation, and "paper wealth" vastly outpacing actual cash flows - while drawing direct parallels to the 2000 dot-com era. https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...com-tech-will-endure "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| If you see me running try to keep up  |
Yes, I think something is coming and the market is going to take a hit. Of course people have been saying this for a while but how long can it keep going before things correct? | |||
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| Internet Guru |
Dalio has studied economic calamity so thoroughly that he sees it around every corner. 10 years ago, he was comparing the economy to 1937 and predicting an actual depression. Post Covid he was linking debt to GDP levels and suggesting imminent collapse. | |||
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