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I think about when our country first came into existence and the Federal government was really limited and small by design. Congress would convene for a few months to take care of the nation's business and then return home to make a living under the laws they had passed. Minimal salary and no special retirement or health care perks.

Our nation has morphed into what we fought to get away from.


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My speculation is this; McConnell will hold on long enough through this year’s Gov Election in November. Should the Republican candidate be elected Gov, he’ll resign after he takes office. If Beshear is re-elected, he’ll announce that he won’t run for the Senate in 2024 due to health, and let the Republicans fight it out in the Primary in May 2024. Either way, McConnell is done.

Should something happen to McConnell before the Gov Election in November 2023, Dem Gov Beshear is “supposed” to appoint a Republican from a list provided by the Ky Republican Party, according to a 2021 State Law passed over Beshear’s veto.

Beshear could just say screw you, I’ll see you in court over it, and appoint a Dem as a replacement. That’ll pretty much guarantee a Republican Senate win in November 2024 as that’s when McConnell’s term ends. However, should Beshear lose this year’s Gov Election, look for him then to announce he’ll run for the Senate seat in 2024, as he’s the only one with real statewide name recognition. Could be dicey that, as Beshear was elected by only a 5000+ majority with the help of Jefferson County Public School teachers’ union; and that was before CoVid and the recent JCPS bus fiascos.

Haven’t a clue as to possible Republican candidates for a primary run in 2024, but it won’t be anyone from Jefferson County, even though McConnell was from here back in the early 1980s. Down-state folks hate everything about JeffCo, as do many in the County too; JeffCo can stew in the mess of its own creation.


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My speculation is this; McConnell will hold on long enough through this year’s Gov Election in November. Should the Republican candidate be elected Gov, he’ll resign after he takes office. If Beshear is re-elected, he’ll announce that he won’t run for the Senate in 2024 due to health, and let the Republicans fight it out in the Primary in May 2024. Either way, McConnell is done.

Should something happen to McConnell before the Gov Election in November 2023, Dem Gov Beshear is “supposed” to appoint a Republican from a list provided by the Ky Republican Party, according to a 2021 State Law passed over Beshear’s veto. Interesting two in the primary's D and R over 300K R votes were cast to only 176K for D, perhaps because Andy is the incumbent.

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Beshear could just say screw you, I’ll see you in court over it, and appoint a Dem as a replacement. That’ll pretty much guarantee a Republican Senate win in November 2024 as that’s when McConnell’s term ends. However, should Beshear lose this year’s Gov Election, look for him then to announce he’ll run for the Senate seat in 2024, as he’s the only one with real statewide name recognition. Could be dicey that, as Beshear was elected by only a 5000+ majority with the help of Jefferson County Public School teachers’ union; and that was before CoVid and the recent JCPS bus fiascos.

Haven’t a clue as to possible Republican candidates for a primary run in 2024, but it won’t be anyone from Jefferson County, even though McConnell was from here back in the early 1980s. Down-state folks hate everything about JeffCo, as do many in the County too; JeffCo can stew in the mess of its own creation.


Pretty much spot on... The Gov race in KY is interesting too, incumbent with family roots in politics vs upcoming upstart David Cameron, african american R and the states AG,

As a note, R candidate Cameron worked for McConnell, and this may be the reason you see Mitch hanging on, because if Beshear holds office, then Cameron will be the heir apparent to McConnells seat and he'd have Mitch's money and machine behind him for US Senate.

It's strategy and timing, which McConnell fall has obviously accelerated. What we see may be the result of some medication(s) he is on from the fall, his age, or damage from it.

Nonetheless that seat is likely up in the next election I don't see McConnell staying in the game, but who knows, we have a walking incompetent in Fetterman, a drooling senior in Feinstein, and Capitan Bumble in the white house.

Mitch is there to maintain the status quo, and pushing him out, might flip the seat to D, I'd expect that

On age limits and term limits, don't care for the age limit, being older doesn't make you senile, incompetent, unintelligent, and unable to work. I'll take a seasoned 70 year old over some 30 year old millennial with aspirations of changing the social status of the world.
 
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Many medical boards demand cognitive testing to determine fitness to practice medicine. A mandatory retirment age is arbitrary. Sanders is in good shape and he is in that age group.

Mandatory Retirement age is arbitrary, I’ll grant you, but preferred over a cognitive test. As corrupt as DC is, I would not trust them to test themselves. We need a hard limit (term limits or age restrictions) or they’ll continue staying until they decompose.
 
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Testing is done by an outside source, most likely a licensed neuropsychologist who does this on a daily basis. The results are admissable in Federal Court.A full battery runs eight hours and is highly reliable. We are not talking of some tear out test from a Womens Magazine.
 
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^^^Anything is corruptible now. Perhaps you remember how the medical industry, and our government institutions operated during COVID...And are still operating today! Unfortunately, a hard number is the only safe method of enforcing any limits on politicians anymore!


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I think about when our country first came into existence and the Federal government was really limited and small by design. Congress would convene for a few months to take care of the nation's business and then return home to make a living under the laws they had passed. Minimal salary and no special retirement or health care perks.

Our nation has morphed into what we fought to get away from.

Spot on. A limited Federal Government. Serve the country then go home.


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Anything is corruptible now. Perhaps you remember how the medical industry, and our government institutions operated during COVID..

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What does COVID have to do with this? It is not Big Pharma. I guess you don't see a physican when you are ill due to the "medical industry". Your remarks here are irrelevant and do not pertain to the subject being discussed.
 
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Anything is corruptible now. Perhaps you remember how the medical industry, and our government institutions operated during COVID..

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What does COVID have to do with this? It is not Big Pharma. I guess you don't see a physican when you are ill due to the "medical industry". Your remarks here are irrelevant and do not pertain to the subject being discussed.


Disagree, the government was heavily involved in how the Pandemic was run, who got immunity for injections, where you could go, what you had to wear, all of that done in the bureaucracy that is DC. Our Government and medical industries worked hand in hand on the COVID rules, requirements and restrictions.

The last thing we need is a group of administrators, especially appointed administrators, to be given power to decide who can and cannot sit in an elected position.

Age, cognitive and term limits will be abused, the only valid solution for removing someone from office is the voters of the state/district they represent.

The last thing we need is a bunch of DC bureaucrats, ordered by a corrupt administration to implement a cognitive test on my elected officials in order to remove someone that is a roadblock to their new world order agenda...

The problem is not anyone's business but those of the politicians constituents, we can all think what we want of McConnell, Feinstein, Fetterman, but we should never entrust the decision of appointed long term government employees of the National Cognitive Analysis Department to determine who is or isn't fit.

That would be a nightmare and undermine the constitution, states rights, voters rights.
 
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Testing is done by an outside source, most likely a licensed neuropsychologist who does this on a daily basis. The results are admissable in Federal Court.A full battery runs eight hours and is highly reliable. We are not talking of some tear out test from a Womens Magazine.


That may be how it runs for board certified physicians. Zero percent chance that’s how it will run for US Senators. I appreciate your faith in our government to regulate itself despite much recent evidence to the contrary, but do not share your naïveté. Objective limits are required, anything subjective will be manipulated.
 
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I am not naive, and certainly think that something as straightforward as neuropsychological testing could be accomplished without much trouble. I think you are jaded if you think the entire government is corrupt. Do you even bother to vote??
 
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. I think you are jaded if you think the entire government is corrupt.


I think you are naive if you don't.
 
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I am not naive, and certainly think that something as straightforward as neuropsychological testing could be accomplished without much trouble. I think you are jaded if you think the entire government is corrupt. Do you even bother to vote??


Yes I vote. Our current commander-in-chief is obviously suffering severe mental degradation, yet White House doctors insist he is fit for duty; this alone invalidates your supposition that medical experts are beyond partisan influence. That doesn't imply our system is past fixing, but doing so requires hard barriers which cannot be exploited by humans. Therefore, a limitation based on age or term is preferred, despite its imperfection, because it makes cheating the system harder.

You say the testing is straightforward: are the results open to subjective interpretation by the test administrator? Would you believe the results if a communist sympathizing BLM donating leftist gave the test to Trump and Biden only to find that Trump is unfit and Biden is sharp as a tack? I'm guessing you'd find those results suspect, yet your solution invites this potential.
 
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Did anyone else notice that this most recent... whatever we're calling it, happened in the middle of a question about whether he was going to run for re-election in 2026? Talk about timing.

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Term limits are not the answer, and I'm sick of hearing about them.


I'm in no way being combative when I say this, but I'm open to an explanation of why this is a bad thing and what you believe would work instead of this, because we have a serious problem in this country. We should have public servants, not the oligarchy we live under.

Also, put me in the camp that believes any sort of cognitive testing of our officials would be corrupted. It's not that they can't be accurately tested, it's that they won't be accurately tested. Even if they are, they won't be held to stepping down. There's too much goddamned money involved in it. We know they're corrupt, how can we believe anything other than that they're happy to pay off a doctor to say "Oh yeah, he's sharp as a tack"? How can we believe there are no doctors, or clinical psychiatrists, or whoever carries out these tests that aren't corruptible? Occam's Razor says that the corruption is what is far more likely.


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His physician, "in consultation with the neurology team" pronounced him fit for duty.

Keep watching, he may just keel over on live t.v.

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I'm in no way being combative when I say this, but I'm open to an explanation of why this is a bad thing and what you believe would work instead of this, because we have a serious problem in this country. We should have public servants, not the oligarchy we live under.



Simple, we have the tools to remove them, it's called elections, if the people they represent want them out, then, they can vote them out, term limits exist because we can remove someone at any time with an election.

Now, if you want to debate how elections are handled, campaign funding, corporate support, PAC money, special interests, media support/coverage, that's a different discussion, altogether...
 
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His physician, "in consultation with the neurology team" pronounced him fit for duty.

Need names cause we never want to see those guys. Their medical licenses should be revoked.
 
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Capitol attending physician Dr. Brian Monahan says he talked with McConnell & his neurology team. He says McConnell is “medically clear” to keep his sked

“Occasional lightheadedness is not uncommon in concussion recovery and can also be expected as a result of dehydration.”

https://twitter.com/AndrewDesi...pearing-to-freeze%2F


In March, McConnell, 81, was rushed to the hospital upon suffering a concussion after tripping at a reception. He was cleared to return to work in April.
 
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medically clear” to keep his sked

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What is sked? I guess they did a CAT scan and MRI?? That was April, what about August?
 
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medically clear” to keep his sked

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What is sked?
At a guess, some sort of shorthand for “schedule”.
 
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