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You guys don't see how much you contradict yourselves?

Convoy organizers say they are going to shut the Beltway down. Para says "Disruption happens to be the point." That's how you get what you want, you disrupt people's lives in a significant way.

But when someone complains that their life will be disrupted in a significant way, you mock them by saying they are exaggerating, it will only be "inconvenient." How many posts here scoff at that "inconvenience"?

So which is it - the convoy is going to be disruptive, or its impact will only be "inconvenient"? Because it can't be both.
 
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I never said I liked the mandates, or that they haven't had a bad effect. What I'm saying is the trucker convoy is a bad tactic to draw attention to that because it impedes other people's freedoms too. It may work against the cause of fighting mandates.



I disagree. Far too long have people just "gone with the tide" because:

1. Their political party told them so

2. The media told them so

3. It's easier to be agreeable and agree to give everyone everything they want instead of standing up for common sense


It's long overdue for people, even the little ones, to feel some pain for their lack of critical thinking and inability to respect basic principles without being a hypocrite.

"Follow the science..." yeah only if it benefits the liberal agenda.

"My body my choice..." yeah only if it's abortion.

"Racist, bigot, sexist, etc..." yeah especially when someone presents an argument counter to what they believe, they can't respond with facts so they resort to name calling.


Frankly, I wish truckers nationwide would stop delivery to all major cities and let them starve. Watch what happens when they miss 7 meals and see how those "liberal" principles stand up to primitive instincts.
 
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FWIW, I live about 15 minutes from the beltway and you can put me in the SUPPORT column for all the reasons stated herein.

It’s never a bad thing for .gov to get a taste of the reality that if push comes to shove, they’re not in control.

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Unfortunately for some, freedom and liberty can be a messy, inconvenient affair. Were it me, I’d be telling my kids that the convoy is happening to fight against forces that want to destroy everything this country stands for, not “inconvenience” them. That way, when the trash begins their attack on the truckers as “nazis” and “insurrectionists”, they will know they are not.




“Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown
 
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Feel free to complain because you predict that you'll be inconvenienced but be prepared to be challenged when you post exaggerations.


Clearly, I'm speaking of the tactics involved, not political ideologies.

We get pissed when BLM blocks a highway yet some here are cheering it on when it fits their narrative. I disagree with these specific tactics no matter who uses them.

Speaking of exaggerations....what we've seen so far about the number of trucks involved, yeah, they're not going to be shutting anything down.
 
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People are pissed. We’ve got a flatliner President that just walks away when questions are asked. In the real world, his ass would be fired on the spot.

F* joe biden!
 
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So which is it - the convoy is going to be disruptive, or its impact will only be "inconvenient"? Because it can't be both.
Certainly it can be both. There's no reason it can't be both, and you just need to leave me out of this. Don't try to use my words to prove your point. You don't like what's happening? Tough shit. We've had it, and there's nothing life-threatening in any of this for you or for anyone else.
 
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Speaking of exaggerations....what we've seen so far about the number of trucks involved, yeah, they're not going to be shutting anything down.
Speaking of contradictions...

If you believe that to be the case, then what in the Hell are you whining about?
 
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Speaking of exaggerations....what we've seen so far about the number of trucks involved, yeah, they're not going to be shutting anything down.
Speaking of contradictions...

If you believe that to be the case, then what in the Hell are you whining about?


Clearly, I was referring earlier to all the built up coverage of this contrasted with this morning hearing the reality of it being one dude in a big rig. Maybe there's more to it that I'm missing? Seems a lot of puffery...all hat, no cattle.
 
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Speaking of exaggerations....what we've seen so far about the number of trucks involved, yeah, they're not going to be shutting anything down.
Speaking of contradictions...

If you believe that to be the case, then what in the Hell are you whining about?


Clearly, I was referring earlier to all the built up coverage of this contrasted with this morning hearing the reality of it being one dude in a big rig. Maybe there's more to it that I'm missing? Seems a lot of puffery...all hat, no cattle.


Wager?

$5k you’re wrong.





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One dude in a big rig? Here is a pic of the ONE convoy originating in California. There are reports of more getting organized and I have no doubt they will be joined en route by many more.





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You keep saying "Clearly" but you're not being clear.

Anyone in this forum who doesn't like the efforts of their fellow Americans to push back against two years of complete fucking nonsense we've been subjected to, is just going to have to suck it up.

Clearly, you're missing this.

While we're on the subject- it's ridiculous and insulting to compare trucker convoys to the actions of the Soros-funded anti-American racists who comprise BLM. Those half-wits block roads for no valid reasons- literally, nothing- whereas the truckers are pushing back against two years of bullshit which have affected all Americans.


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Speaking of exaggerations....what we've seen so far about the number of trucks involved, yeah, they're not going to be shutting anything down.
Speaking of contradictions...

If you believe that to be the case, then what in the Hell are you whining about?


Clearly, I was referring earlier to all the built up coverage of this contrasted with this morning hearing the reality of it being one dude in a big rig. Maybe there's more to it that I'm missing? Seems a lot of puffery...all hat, no cattle.


Impressive if it's one dude driving from PA and CA at the same time.

Relax, you will be OK, peaceful demonstration is still legal and encouraged. If they park their big rigs on the beltway I'm sure they will be ticketed or towed. As far as the strangle traffic guy from PA that is stupid. All they have to do to create awareness is drive around in circles slowly on the beltway, honk horns, and wave flags. I believe the slowest you can legally travel is 45mph. That will bring traffic to a crawl, but nothing much more, since they're coming on Saturday there won't be many people on the road to begin with and I'd think many would avoid the beltway just to avoid the demonstration.

If they do something illegal, warn, then ticket, then arrest/tow them.

This is not an insurrection, just a demonstration. We've survived many a protest in DC, happens all the time, we'll survive this one too.

Don't worry, be happy. Smile



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The misunderestimation of working class American strategiry …


Clearly, he didn’t watch the video. Clearly.





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Wow! Now, that's a convoy!

What's with those goofy powerlines??
 
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Clearly some people need a reminder:

"THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives everything its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated." ~ Thomas Paine


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Relax, you will be OK, peaceful demonstration is still legal and encouraged. If they park their big rigs on the beltway I'm sure they will be ticketed or towed. As far as the strangle traffic guy from PA that is stupid. All they have to do to create awareness is drive around in circles slowly on the beltway, honk horns, and wave flags. I believe the slowest you can legally travel is 45mph. That will bring traffic to a crawl, but nothing much more, since they're coming on Saturday there won't be many people on the road to begin with and I'd think many would avoid the beltway just to avoid the demonstration.

I know based on your location that you know that the truckers could drive the standard 65+ mph around the beltway during non-rush hour and make a huge mess of things b/c it doesn't take much add'l congestion to slow things down. I can't even imagine a huge convoy of trucks coming in during rush hour, when many lanes (sometimes all) go 5-10 mph.

Many people on this forum haven't lived in/around DC and don't understand that its congestion is similar to LA's. This convoy is going to be disruptive, for which I'm very glad, and like you said they don't need to park a single vehicle - just drive in circles around the beltway. There will be a significant gas bill to pay doing so, but the same goes for driving from Cali to the East Coast.
 
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Wow! Now, that's a convoy!

What's with those goofy powerlines??


Cooper's droop ?


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Wouldn't the trucks be more disruptive with 48-53' trailers attached?
 
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