No I don't think he's arguing that it was a joke and the defendant didn't think it would be seriously taken. He's actually saying that's it's ok to solicit murder as long as no one takes you up on the offer.

Rocket surgeon #1 is confusing the free will of humans, with human rights, and this is beyond ridiculous.

As I've said before in this thread- this is the kind of logic I would expect from a 14 year old boy- someone who has gathered pieces of the puzzle but lacks the mental discipline and the practical experience of life to correctly assemble those pieces. And now that he's been called on his idiocy (ganged up on by "the Hive", you see ), he's digging in. He's gotten himself into such a ridiculous position that he would be embarrassed to even try to get himself out of it. Again, the behavior of an adolescent. He lacks the maturity to admit to the truth of what we've been trying to make him understand.

"Humans have free will. Therefore, any action a person takes is an inherent right, even if it means infringing upon the rights of others." This is what he's saying and it's utter bullshit. Humans do not exist in a vacuum, each in their own separate and unique universe. We exist together, and free will is not a right. Free will is the essence of human nature but free will does not grant the right to a person to harm or threaten harm to others, merely because they can do so. He cannot or will not acknowledge the difference. He's either that stupid or that obstinate.

What if someone announced on social media that they were going to commit a crime, like robbing a bank, at a certain time in the future--would that be prosecutable?

Obviously, if a high school student threatens to shoot up his school, law enforcement should immediately, preemptively, act. This is, like the case we're talking about, a *threat*, and I think must be against the law. But in my question above, it doesn't seem right that that person could say, "I didn't do anything wrong. I haven't committed the crime yet. I merely *said* I was going to commit a crime."

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What if someone announced on social media that they were going to commit a crime, like robbing a bank, at a certain time in the future--would that be prosecutable?

I asked this question earlier. It may not be prosecutable as it is, but one would have thought an investigation would have taken place that may have resulted in charges.

Everybody keeps saying that soliciting murder is illegal. It is, but that's not what this guy was charged with. Why not? Why didn't the police investigate this solicitation of murder and charge based on their investigation?

This guy was charged with "using interstate and foreign commerce to transmit a threat".

I would assume if I called the police and told them a guy is offering to pay somebody to kill some cops, a detective or two would be put on the case. No?

I think that only the prosecutor could answer that question.

Longbow, I’ll keep it simple and use small, easy to understand words.

You’re a small minded, childish idiot. You’re the kind of schoolyard moron that thinks he’s right because they keep repeating “I’m right!”.

Pathetic.

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Originally posted by Longbow_06:
Lol, you guys are hilarious.
I see you’re back at the backslapping at the office phase.

Schiff would be proud.

“Damn it Boss, we can’t prove him wrong, because well, the guy was acquitted under his First amendment rights to Free Speech !! If we can’t prove him wrong, and we can’t shut this Fucker up !! Then We must Impeach !!”


I’ll remind you all of this thread when you’re all bitching that your rights have been infringed upon lol.

Yup, and OJ was found NOT Guilty too...

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
No I don't think he's arguing that it was a joke and the defendant didn't think it would be seriously taken. He's actually saying that's it's ok to solicit murder as long as no one takes you up on the offer.

That's what I attempted to draw out of him back a few pages (p.13) ... but he didn't respond.

He thinks he's defending the Bill of Rights, but he doesn't seem to understand that one man's rights end where they infringe on another man's rights.

Your Liberty To Swing Your Fist Ends Just Where My Nose Begins

https://quoteinvestigator.com/...5/liberty-fist-nose/

Yes, a child-like POV

Humans do not exist in a vacuum, each in their own separate and unique universe. To think that each person's rights are absolute means that there really could be no laws of any kind. How could there be laws if people are allowed to do anything they wish, just because they have the ability to do those things? It's utterly ridiculous. By rocket surgeon #1's way of thinking, there could be no human civilization. We'd be rutting animals with no limitations on our behavior. Just freakin' ridiculous.

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Yes lol. And Most of you members here are armchair internet commandos.
A little too old, a little over the hill, all bark, and zero bite.

At least That guy had the Balls to stand up for what he believed.

Most of you guys don’t, and will roll over like whipped dogs if you Ever get Red Flagged.

Para was right, the SP5 is a semi-auto paperweight.
Trump banned bump stocks, but I though those were useless too.
Binary triggers will be next.
Mag bans, AR bans, etc, etc, etc

One bite at a time.

Lol.

I don’t see anyone with the Balls to put $500 on my head

Now you're just being rude. I'm a 75 year old man and I'm pretty sure I have enough 'bite' left to take you to task.
You smart ass prick!

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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What if someone announced on social media that they were going to commit a crime, like robbing a bank, at a certain time in the future--would that be prosecutable?

I asked this question earlier. It may not be prosecutable as it is, but one would have thought an investigation would have taken place that may have resulted in charges.

Everybody keeps saying that soliciting murder is illegal. It is, but that's not what this guy was charged with. Why not? Why didn't the police investigate this solicitation of murder and charge based on their investigation?

This guy was charged with "using interstate and foreign commerce to transmit a threat".

I would assume if I called the police and told them a guy is offering to pay somebody to kill some cops, a detective or two would be put on the case. No?

I know I'm putting this in ignorant, simplistic terms but it doesn't seem like it should be legal to "waste" law enforcement's time.

Jeepers fellers. You should know it when you see it...

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Originally posted by Longbow_06:
Yes lol. And Most of you members here are armchair internet commandos.

A little too old, a little over the hill, all bark, and zero bite. [we call that "All hat and no cattle" here in Texas. ]

At least That guy had the Balls to stand up for what he believed.

Most of you guys don’t, and will roll over like whipped dogs if you Ever get Red Flagged.

I don’t see anyone with the Balls to put $500 on my head

Oh! And..."lol".

Seems like a trolling method of citing Spartan law. To paraphrase as I understand it "Do as you please, just don't get caught." As cool as the movies were there aren't too many Spartans around anymore. Probably a good thing since in reality they were much more like nazis (I know it may be trite, but I think it really does apply) than the justice league.

Or maybe rocket man is saying that what smooth legs posted was OK compared to colonists shooting King George's troops?

Been an entertaining read so far regardless.

Here ya go: Longbow in this thread. lol



Jim

Glad I don't have to read Longbow's non-sense. He's a smug Pussy that grew up in a foreign country and clearly doesn't know what America stands for. Like so many late night, intellectual elitists who attempt to use twisted comedy to educate us about "real liberty" yet they don't have a clue what the Bill Of Rights truly stands for.

Hey, HE'S A COMPSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR!!

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
No I don't think he's arguing that it was a joke and the defendant didn't think it would be seriously taken. He's actually saying that's it's ok to solicit murder as long as no one takes you up on the offer.

That's what I attempted to draw out of him back a few pages (p.13) ... but he didn't respond.

He thinks he's defending the Bill of Rights, but he doesn't seem to understand that one man's rights end where they infringe on another man's rights.

Your Liberty To Swing Your Fist Ends Just Where My Nose Begins

https://quoteinvestigator.com/...5/liberty-fist-nose/

No lol... Your Rights ended where the Government said so.
10 round magazine limits in some States are proof of this.
And if You don’t see that, then you deserve a limitation.

I've encountered the likes of LB before. Simplistic arguments. Takes facts out of context. Ignores or purposely misinterprets counter-arguments. Punctuates statements with "lol"s for no apparently rational reason.

Had one like him on a local interest forum. If LB hadn't indicated he was from Britain; that he was in another state; and wasn't arguing an anarchist view, rather than a leftist one, I'd swear it was the same guy.

That guy, when it finally got to the point he wasn't even amusing, any more, I finally just put on "ignore."

lol

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Longbow, I’ll keep it simple and use small, easy to understand words.

You’re a small minded, childish idiot. You’re the kind of schoolyard moron that thinks he’s right because they keep repeating “I’m right!”.

Pathetic.

Lol. Very adult of you !!
Nice use of small words there.

Just what I’d expect of a Triggered individual

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
I've encountered the likes of LB before. Simplistic arguments. Takes facts out of context. Ignores or purposely misinterprets counter-arguments. Punctuates statements with "lol"s for no apparently rational reason.

Had one like him on a local interest forum. If LB hadn't indicated he was from Britain; that he was in another state; and wasn't arguing an anarchist view, rather than a leftist one, I'd swear it was the same guy.

That guy, when it finally got to the point he wasn't even amusing, any more, I finally just put on "ignore."

lol

How exactly is arguing to maintain God Given Rights a Leftist view ?

I’m guessing you want to maintain Freedom from Religious persecution by burning at the stake anyone who’s not of your Faith lol.