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Originally posted by r0gue:
Next up:

TC Electronic Polytune ...

I had a bit of trouble with the Polytune. For some reason on the it wouldn't pick up Low E and would switch between poly and mono tune screen. I went with the Sonic Research Turbo Tuner ST-300 mini instead. It's way faster and much more accurate. You can easily set your intonation with it.

Concerning Strymon, they are good. Really good. I want a Volante. I have a Lex but it sits on the shelf. They require a high current isolated power supply. You just can't use them with any sort of daisy-chain power.

Concerning the power supply I went with a Cioks because it fits better under the pedalboard. No other reason. Voodoo Labs is pretty much industry standard. TheGigRig.com sells modular power supplies that can work for absolutely anything.

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Originally posted by r0gue:
Interesting! Are there certain brands specializing in analog? Would be ironic to run a digital pedal into a tube amp.

Thing is here … Is that rarely can people ever tell the difference… It takes very special, nay … extraordinary ears to know in a blind solo a/b/c test; much less in a mix. Lol. Stay sensible…

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
... Thing is here … Is that rarely can people ever tell the difference… It takes very special, nay … extraordinary ears to know in a blind solo a/b/c test; much less in a mix. Lol. Stay sensible…

The only thing I've ever had an issue with is latency. If there's an excessive amount it feels wrong. However, these days, there's usually less than a couple milliseconds. This complaint is from the past. Send lottery numbers.

Latency is a real concern… But most cool pedals are running digital… So if in your chain, you gotta manage those Ada conversions. That’s one reason I run one box.

I use a virtual capo frequently, which always adds a fair bit of latency because you have to detect the pitch. There are thresholds of acceptance.

Fwiw - stand 10’ from your cab and you’ve got 10 ms of latency.

My AxeFx3 w/ an amp and cab is 1.33 ms in latency for real time computing analog tube circuits in the digital domain w 64 bit over-sampling to minimize aliasing.

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by r0gue:
Interesting! Are there certain brands specializing in analog? Would be ironic to run a digital pedal into a tube amp.

Thing is here … Is that rarely can people ever tell the difference… It takes very special, nay … extraordinary ears to know in a blind solo a/b/c test; much less in a mix. Lol. Stay sensible…

In my experience, digital effects from the last ~10 years or so generally sound good and will give you a pretty believable version of the general category of analog effect they are emulating.

I think they frequently fall short of nailing the exact sound, especially on extreme settings or when they are trying to emulate a specific effect rather than a category - but I also think the difference almost never matters to anyone except the guitarist himself.

A good example of this is spring reverb. There are a lot of digital spring reverb pedals, because a traditional analog spring reverb needs a spring tank (a metal box with actual springs in it) which is much larger than a typical pedal.

Spring reverb is also particularly hard to model digitally for a number of reasons.

Most of the digital spring reverb pedals sound at least OK. Many of them sound very good or even great. On moderate reverb settings, the good ones really do sound good and sound like a spring reverb - even if you could maybe pick apart some minor differences if you really tried.

On the other hand, none of the digital spring reverb pedals can REALLY sound like a Fender outboard spring reverb unit with the dwell turned up (the super-intense spring reverb sound of surf music), even the ones that set out specifically to emulate that exact sound. The good ones don’t sound BAD, they give you a nice-sounding reverb effect, but it isn’t THAT sound.

Does it matter? For the most part, probably still only to the guitarist. But there definitely are some sounds that current digital effects can’t quite match, and if you as a guitarist have to hear one of those sounds to feel inspired or satisfied or whatever with your playing, then for now, digital won’t get you there (even if no one else would notice or care).

I’m sure as technology advances these exceptions will gradually pretty much disappear.

I mix analog and digital pedals. I also use that power supply. Order matters though. Also pay attention to the current draw of each pedal. I recommend going with flat cables from the start.

I’m relatively satisfied with mine.

How’s the new hobby going?

Yes! After Action/Range report!

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Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:
How’s the new hobby going?

Good! This is my current-state. A few Strymon time-based pedals delivered yesterday and I'm tinkering around.

Excellent! Enjoy.

BTW; You’ve might have GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) … lol

Beautiful room....and equipment!

Hey, see if those Strymon reverb and delay do a “hold” (Or freeze.). I would think that’s a definite capability they have.

Then you can do this …

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
...You’ve might have GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) … lol

I'm trying to be good. The BOSS acoustic amp is a few years old. So really, I just bought a guitar, an amp, a tuner pedal and a delay and a reverb. The B1G boost I bought just because it was a limited edition signed by Julian Lage. I figured that was a once in a lifetime chance, as silly as it may be.

Honestly, this is one thing someone could definitely overthink. It truly isn't a huge deal. I'm happy to discuss whatever I know or remember, but I don't want to lead you too far into the weeds on this. Coming back to playing, and especially starting off with electric, it's far more important to get something that you'll be excited to play so that you actually do start logging some time doing so than a given fretboard radius or scale length, or any of that. Just like every gun thread on every forum on the internet where some clown comes in and says "Just buy the (cheap one) and spend the rest on ammo and training!" the responsible thing here would be to suggest something similar. You could do no worse with a Mexican Strat of any era of production with any combination of features but in a color you really like than a Fender custom shop anything at this point. Truly. If you find something comfortable and start pounding scales, you'll be in a place to better discern what it is you actually like or don't like in six or nine months from now. We all love gear, though, so we're going to indulge you. Wink


Thee are great tips, but a rabbit hole none the less.

What is your gear purpose..
What is your budget..
PLAY ALOT OF GUITARS..
You WILL know when you play it..
Youtube is helpful, but not always correct..
PLAY ALOTOF GUITARS

OK… Now you’ve got it done it… Just put a deposit on a build for next year.

Will be a tele-based plank from luthier Laurent Brondel in Maine.

Sort of like this, but with some other finish details.

Ron Ellis pups (60T bridge, 64 FAT middle and a Standard Plus JL neck)






Maybe July next year.

^^^
Outstanding!

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Originally posted by Ogie:
Outstanding!

I can say nothing more appropriate. So, +1 !!!

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Originally posted by r0gue:

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Originally posted by jhe888:My brother is a Collings fanboy (in a good way). He lives only a couple of hours from the factory. He has a 290 with P-90s, and two Collings acoustics - I think an OM size, and the other is a 12 fret dread. They really do make a nice guitar.

I ordered a 470JL. It'll be ready in 2024. Guess it's time to sell some watches!

Thank you fellers.

This the man re: who designed and hand builds your Julian Lage PUps. Enjoy!


My neck pup is also a JL

I'm not a Tele guy but that bird's eye maple neck is making me feel a bit randy.

Me either … polar opposite: acid/jazz rush and 70/80s rock guy.

Thinking real hard about country lessons… Just walking in door with the tele sayin’ “teach me“.