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Are you saying an Eagle is gonna land, snatch your fucking ass, and carry you off?  What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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Huh, say what? I've seen a lot of professionals in dangerous places carrying Glocks. I hope someone is going to tell them about this important news! Oh, and I've been holding off on a G19 for years, going strong. Someday it will come. | |||
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Not to pile on, but you are have missed the mark for another reason. Glocks are not "cocked" all the time. The slide being cycled only partially sets the striker and the initial trigger pull provides the remaining tension before releasing the striker. You see with a striker fired weapon there is no "cocked", "half cocked", or "de-cocked". It is a different design and folks who talk of cocked Glocks simply display ignorance. Your 4-step process describes unloading a Glock and, not surprisingly, is the same method employed to unload most other guns as well. I'll also point out that this really should just be a 3-step process as your step 3 is unnecessary as there is no "hammer" to drop in a striker fired weapon. You are merely activating the striker, just as you would cycle the hammer of your P226 if you decided to pull its trigger after unloading and clearing the gun. The only time one needs to pull the trigger on a Glock is to fire it or to disassemble it. What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???  | |||
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+ 1. "The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli." - George Costanza | |||
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There always seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about the Glock bladed trigger safety and what it is supposed to do. Between the internal safety components employed in the Glock there should be only one way possible for the glock to fire, by the rearward movement of the trigger. The trigger safety ensures that it is a finger or other object inside the trigger guard pulling on (pushing against) the trigger itself that moves it rearward to fire, not inertia (from a fall) or an internal failure (highly unlikely) that could otherwise pull the trigger bar and fire the gun. It is not there to prevent anyone from accidentally pulling the trigger. I'm no glock fan boy but one thing I do appreciate about it's design is the safety measures used and not used in it. It will not fire on it's own under any reasonable circumstances short of dropping it in a running deep fryer and assumes the user to follow proper firearm handling: finger not inside the trigger guard until the muzzle is pointed in the direction you are intending to fire in. | |||
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I was completely wrong in stating that the Glock is not a safe pistol in the "chambered" position...as Glock owners know, it's not just the trigger safety lever, but also the striker safety, and the fact that the rear of the trigger bar cannot drop into position to release the sear until the trigger is pulled, that makes the Glock incredibly safe. Note to 911Boss: I understand the difference between a striker and a hammer setup, unfortunately, I used an improper explanation to make my point. Glock has done wonders with the striker setup, most importantly using the slide action to "half-cock" the striker spring, which greatly reduces the trigger pull, a huge improvement over early striker pistols which were cocked entirely with the trigger pull. In the 23 years I owned my Glock, I played around with different strikers, finally settling on Zev's stainless striker, which along with Fulcrum's aluminum adjustable trigger, made for a very decent trigger pull. I am a certified Glock-lover, make no mistake, even if I prefer an exposed hammer, and I apologize for insinuating the Glock is unsafe to carry. As a few posts in this thread have reminded me, it's as safe as you make it...This message has been edited. Last edited by: Blacksport, | |||
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Cheers, John. The only thing I feel a need to point out that hasn't been touched on is that for any carry pistol, a proper holster in good condition is absolutely a must. It's hard to accidentally discharge most any modern carry handgun while it's fully seated in a holster that blocks all access to the trigger, regardless of the manual of arms. As you say, it's as safe as you make it.  ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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You need a worn-in gen 1 17. Problem solved. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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Not to pile on, but you are have missed the mark for another reason. Glocks are not "cocked" all the time. The slide being cycled only partially sets the striker and the initial trigger pull provides the remaining tension before releasing the striker. You see with a striker fired weapon there is no "cocked", "half cocked", or "de-cocked". It is a different design and folks who talk of cocked Glocks simply display ignorance. Your 4-step process describes unloading a Glock and, not surprisingly, is the same method employed to unload most other guns as well. I'll also point out that this really should just be a 3-step process as your step 3 is unnecessary as there is no "hammer" to drop in a striker fired weapon. You are merely activating the striker, just as you would cycle the hammer of your P226 if you decided to pull its trigger after unloading and clearing the gun. The only time one needs to pull the trigger on a {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 {\fonttbl\f0\fnil\fcharset0 .HelveticaNeueInterface-Regular;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red0\green0\blue0;} \deftab720 \pard\pardeftab720\partightenfactor0 \f0\fs34 \cf2 \expnd0\expndtw0\kerning0 \outl0\strokewidth0 \strokec2 \ }Glock is to fire it or to disassemble it.[ Good points, wouldn't the P7 be a true decocked striker? MG | |||
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Just purchased Glock number 2 tonight (online). I've had the Gen 4 model 19 for a few years, then decided to go for the .45 acp model 21 for the house/sometimes carry gun. So, who loves their 21? Harold B ---------------------- "God made men, but Sam Colt made them equal." | |||
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I actually shoot my G21 best out of all the Glocks I own... Followed by the G26...  Ended up sending the slide and barrel to CCR for CPII...  | |||
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I was at a store over the weekend that had both gen3 and gen4 23's. I was surprised at the difference in feeling of the two.The 4 really felt much better to me. | |||
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Finally Found an OD 26 new. Can't wait to add it to my permit... It replaces my HKP2000 LEM. Nothing to do but practice a bit... load and carry... I don't need to change a thing... While I like the G19 G17 G21 G36 my Colt- Sigs etc... I truly think for me the G26 is the best pistol period. Weight Capacity Size is hard to beat. I shoot it best or at least as well as any including larger handguns and it's easy to carry. Reliable as a Hammer... and as easy to maintain...  | |||
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OMG... Replacing an HK with a Glock...  That ought to get the haters riled up.. Looks very nice... You'll still end up with a G33 one of these days..  | |||
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Not only that. It is also a wonderful opportunity for a self-induced malfunction/jam while attempting to chamber a round under extreme stress. Applies equally to squeamish 1911 owners as well. So...it requires two hands and runs the risk of a malfunction. What's not to like about this?  ______________________ An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Nicholas Murray Butler | |||
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I just picked up a Gen 2 G17 with 2 mags for $418.00. The gun in in excellent condition overall with very moderate wear. | |||
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Perhaps I do love the 357sig in my 239.The 26 is so darn good though... recoil recovery and one handed shooting gave it the NOD... for me.. Zenmeister.... Nice buy... Gen2 always a favorite. good price $418... | |||
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I like it Ranger20. I believe I'm going this route. Do you not even change sights? | |||
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