My feeling is that he's doing the same thing he did with DACA...daring the demonrats to try to pass gun-control legislation.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Not thrilled with President Trump supporting raising the age for purchasing AR-15's.

That brings us into classifying which rifles are more evil than others.

A very slippery slope in my opinion.

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
Oh boy



https://twitter.com/fguzmanon7...s/966825501846274048

I guess they were making sure to protect him from some potential lynch mob.

They may not put any effort into guarding a school, but by gum they are going to protect the guy who allowed the shooter to have his way with the unarmed students and teachers.

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
Oh boy



https://twitter.com/fguzmanon7...s/966825501846274048

I guess they were making sure to protect him from some potential lynch mob.

Waste of police resources. Let the fucker protect himself. He's shown that he's good at protecting *only* himself.

I'd be curious to know what the SOP is in that Sheriff's Department for responses to shootings such as this.

I'm not defending what this deputy did or didn't do, but perhaps he was doing what he was supposed to do or was directed to do and is now being thrown under the bus by this POS Sheriff.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:
I'd be curious to know what the SOP is in that Sheriff's Department for responses to shootings such as this.

I'm not defending what this deputy did or didn't do, but perhaps he was doing what he was supposed to do or was directed to do and is now being thrown under the bus by this POS Sheriff.

Isn't his whole reason for being there to engage threats and protect the students and staff? Or is his firearm there simply to protect himself?

Post Columbine I'm pretty sure every PD in America's SOP is to enter and engage the shooter.

Well, one would think so.

As I recall, the officers at Columbine acted similarly by not entering the building.

I would hope that were I in that situation, I would have the sand to "break protocol" and live with the consequences or die trying to do all I could.

I just cannot see myself sitting by, with means and ability to engage, while unarmed innocent people are being slaughtered.

Just no way I can get my mind to accept it being OK.

Some things are not "just a job".

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Originally posted by jac1304:
Well maybe if...Florida governor calls on FBI director to resign after flub on school shooting tip...the governor should get the sheriff to resign since his agency dealt with suspect 39 times and his deputy let the killing continue...wants to discipline others for their failures but not his own failure to lead.

Hell I'd take it further and say that deputy should be charged. His retirement should be spent in prison.

I wonder how many other acts of cowardice he displayed in his years on the department that simply weren't caught.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Post Columbine I'm pretty sure every PD in America's SOP is to enter and engage the shooter.

Yes, it’s the only way we train..

Any active shooter training taken by any LEO recently stresses (1) Stop the Killing- engage the shooter (2)Stop the Dying- attend to the wounded.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:
Well, one would think so.

As I recall, the officers at Columbine acted similarly by not entering the building.

Yeah, and before 9/11 I could fly with my Leatherman on my belt.

EVERYBODY knows the rules changed after Columbine. . .

Engage the shooter ASAP.

Although it doesn’t sound good and he’s resigned, I’d like to see the video of him, see his statement or hear it and the departments investigative statement (not the Sheriff but IAD) before passing judgement.

My view on the age change issue would be, if society has truly devolved to the point where someone is no longer mature enough to own a rifle at 18, why would they be mature enough to join the military or even vote at 18? How about parents teach their kids personal responsibility and how to actually be an adult by 18? Then again, if they are eating Tide pods and unsure of which restroom they should be using do we really want them having rifles at 18? A conundrum indeed.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Post Columbine I'm pretty sure every PD in America's SOP is to enter and engage the shooter.

Yes. Enter and engage but, its up to every officer if he waits for a team to form or he chooses to go it alone.

That being said... as a former SRO I can't imagine any SRO waiting any amount of time as his kids were being slaughtered. I loved my kids. Being an SRO was the highlight of my 23 years in law enforcement. I have never been more embarrassed for my profession than today. Apologies to all.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:
Well, one would think so.
As I recall, the officers at Columbine acted similarly by not entering the building.

Doctrine then was to set up outside, gather forces and then make a plannedentry. As memory serves one of the SROs engaged a shooter when he tried to fire from an upstairs window.

Here's how the coward of Parkland feels:

"The sheriff’s deputy who failed to engage the shooter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School “believed he did a good job” because he called in the location of the massacre and gave a description of the shooter, a top union official said Thursday.

School resource officer Scot Peterson, who resigned in disgrace from the Broward County Sheriff’s Office, was “distraught” about the shooting that killed 17 people — but believed he did his duty, according to the president of the Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputies Association.

“He believed he did a good job calling in the location, setting up the perimeter and calling in the description (of Cruz),” said the union official, Jim Bell."
https://nypost.com/2018/02/22/...s-he-did-a-good-job/

I initially blamed the Officer. Then I thought, if I was at a alternative school for malcontents would I be willing to take a bullet for them when I could just retire ? Of course teachers are in need of protecting, but schools,especially inner city, are not the havens of safety being portrayed. Contact with the students probably would not be a positive experience. I will wait for more info to come out

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
I initially blamed the Officer. Then I thought, if I was at a alternative school for malcontents would I be willing to take a bullet for them when I could just retire ? Of course teachers are in need of protecting, but schools,especially inner city, are not the havens of safety being portrayed. Contact with the students probably would not be a positive experience. I will wait for more info to come out

No. The deputard is a goddam coward and deserves whatever he gets.

That guy is going to hate himself for the rest of his life. It was his defining moment, and he chose to let his emotions control his actions. He was just the wrong man for the job.