Freakin' coward.

He deserves 1000 deaths as the coward he is.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
"took up a position"

When I was younger, they had a more honest and direct name for that kind of behavior.

Find another line of work, "officer".

No shit. He will have to live with the shame that he could have saved someone, even if it was just one person.

I can't remember this level of post mass shooting media coverage. I am watching a lot of it and I can't see this momentum ending any time soon.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Holy SHIT.


Dana Loesch:
I had to have a security detail to get out," she said of the Sunland, Fla. event. "I wouldn't be able to exit that if I didn't have a private security detail. There were people rushing the stage and screaming 'burn her'.

More reason to be a firearm owner.

Crazed Mob wanting to burn you to death.

Considering both she and her security detail are armed and marksmen.... I'd luv to have a bucket of popcorn and just watch the festivities.

CNBC - BlackRock to Talk to Gun Makers over Response to School Shootings

The hell with BlackRock. I wouldn’t buy their overpriced ETFs if you paid me. What was Ford’s, GM’s, Toyota’s, etc. response to the drunk driver that killed X people in a van? Do they think the gun makers are going to stop making guns? BlackRock already has a “socially responsible” ETF (symbol DSI) that excludes companies significantly involved with weapons manufacturing, "vice" products, nuclear energy, and genetic modification, so why do they need to talk to gun makers? Are they going to drop gun makers from their other ETFs? Go ahead. DSI’s performance basically matches the S&P500, but the expense ratio is over 10 times that of Vanguard’s VOO S&P 500 ETF.

From the link:

The world's largest asset manager says it plans to speak with gun makers after a wave of public outcry sparked by the Florida school shooting last week.

BlackRock officials said they want to reach out to the companies "to understand their response" to the shootings.

The firm, which manages $5.7 trillion for clients, indirectly owns shares in the companies through the many exchange-traded funds under BlackRock's iShares umbrella. The funds track indexes such as the S&P 500 and various sector indexes as well.

With BlackRock being by far the leader in the $3.4 trillion ETF space, with nearly $1.4 trillion under management, the firm theoretically could exert some pressure on the index providers to remove the gun makers from their listings.

Company spokesman Ed Sweeney said via e-mail that it cannot sell shares of a company in an index and instead "we focus on engaging with the company and understanding
how they are responding to society's expectations of them."

Sweeney said BlackRock has heard from investors who don't want their money tied into weapons manufacturers.

"We are working with clients who want to exclude from their portfolios weapons manufacturers or other companies that don't align with their values," he said.

Shares of companies such as American Outdoor Brands and Sturm Ruger rose Thursday after the White House said President Donald Trump was open to multiple gun control measures but does not want to "ban an entire class of firearms."

More details on the deputy who failed to respond:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/srd-...l-shooting/705291215

Sheriff: Deputy never went inside to engage school shooter

PARKLAND, Fla. - A Florida sheriff says the deputy who was on duty at a high school where 17 people were massacred waited outside the building for about four minutes without ever going in.

Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel announced during a Thursday news conference that Deputy Scot Peterson resigned after being suspended without pay.

Israel said he made the decision after reviewing video surveillance and interviewing witnesses, including the deputy himself. The sheriff says Peterson responded to the building where the shooting took place, took up a position outside a door and never went in.

When asked what Peterson should have done, Israel said the deputy should have "went in, addressed the killer, killed the killer."

Authorities say 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz fatally shot 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland on Feb. 14.

You can watch the sheriff's entire news conference below:
<video at link>

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Originally posted by dave7378:
I can't remember this level of post mass shooting media coverage. I am watching a lot of it and I can't see this momentum ending any time soon.

It will fizzle out soon, just like all the rest.



Freakin SRO coward. I almost wish they would put HIS face on the news 24/7. He could have saved many lives. Ended up he only saved his own useless skin.

Countless brave men and women before him 'ran to the sound of the guns.' He 'took up position' and did NOTHING.


Too bad they can't bring criminal charges against him.

Deputy Scot Peterson

Let there be no place in the world where he can escape being known for his cowardice.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
Deputy Scot Peterson

Let there be no place in the world where he can escape being known for his cowardice.

The Deputy from Coward County, resigned. (He was suspended without pay pending investigation, and chose to resign.)

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Originally posted by dave7378:
I can't remember this level of post mass shooting media coverage. I am watching a lot of it and I can't see this momentum ending any time soon.

I hope you are right, and that it persists right through the midterms. The loudmouths will then get to hear from the millions of gun owners, millions who respect the Constitution. All the gun ban clatter will bite them right in the ass in the midterms.

The school where my wife teaches has a SRO assigned there full time. He does a great job of deescalating situations with kids. They used to rotate them in and out but since this guy has been there for the last 5 years he's had a chance to build a rapport with the kids that pays real dividends. He has an AR that stays locked in a safe in his locked office.

The timeline I read said the Parkland shooter shot for 3 minutes. The SRO at my wife's school is in pretty good shape but if he were at the opposite end of the campus, there was no commotion and he ran at a dead sprint to an incident at the front of the school the shooter would already have been outside. Usain Bolt couldn't get there in time.

I've never faced live fire. Most of us haven't. I hope I would react properly but there are tons of stories of soldiers who froze in a fight and they were EXPECTING to be in one. I don't know if the officer could have made any difference by directly engaging. I wish he would have tried. My guess is that at some point he will kill himself. He will be victim #18.

I WILL get angry if we find out that the reason he was a SRO was because he was a marginal officer so they shuffled him off to be a SRO and not be on the streets where other officers would have to count on him. In my family there is a long tradition of serving in the fire department in Chattanooga. My uncle was a fireman. He was one of the guys that no one wanted in their hall. These guys ended up at the slowest hall in town. There were times when months would go by without that hall getting a call as primary. They stashed them there because it was "safe"

They finally got a call and on the way, they heard another call go out. They'd left their stove on and burned their hall completely down. They should have been terminated once they were determined to be poor firefighters but with city bureaucracy it was easier to move them on down the line.

No difference than kids getting passed that can't read or write.

I hope the guy can deal with his failure to act and not kill himself. I don't hate him and I'm not going to call him a coward. I just feel sorry for him and the new torture that parents will now go through wondering if their kid would be alive if he'd acted. They don't deserve any new pain.

Mark

https://www.reuters.com/articl...ooting-idUSKCN1G62PC

Major shareholder of Ruger and S&W giving them grief about what they plan to do after the shooting.

Fucking coward. Period.

Brief hesitation before going in? Understandable. Like 5-10 seconds to gather your thoughts.

Sit outside with your thumb up your ass for 4 minutes as a uniformed and armed officer of the law while people are murdered.

Coward. Yellow. Chicken-shit.

In addition to Peterson,

Two other deputies are facing investigation, Israel said.

“I’ve restricted two of our deputies as we dig deeper into this, take statements and make a decision to see whether or not they could have done more, should’ve done more,” he said.

spoken by Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/22/...ida-shooter-resigns/

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Reportedly those deputy’s are under investigation because they had contact with the shooter in the months and years before the shooting.

You put your very best in SRO positions. Anything less is negligence and a failure of leadership.

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Originally posted by mark_a:
The timeline I read said the Parkland shooter shot for 3 minutes.

Where did you see that? An early report I read said he fired for eight minutes.
Curious what might be correct. These incidents usually end very quickly, but I also read he was in five classrooms. Five classrooms in three minutes would be moving fast. Not impossible, I suppose, but ….

Rhino,

perhaps they are part of this:

And long before Cruz embarked on the worst school shooting in Florida history, Broward Sheriff’s deputies had multiple warnings that the 19-year-old was a potential school shooter, according to records released Thursday .

In November, a tipster called BSO to say Cruz “could be a school shooter in the making” but deputies did not write up a report on it.

That came just weeks after a relative called asking BSO to seize his weapons.

Two years ago, according to a timeline of interactions with Cruz’s family, a deputy investigated a report that Cruz “planned to shoot up the school” – intelligence forwarded to the campus deputy, with no apparent result.

http://www.miamiherald.com/new...rticle201636649.html

According to Israel, Peterson remained outside Building 12 for about four minutes. The shooting lasted about six minutes

http://www.miamiherald.com/new...rticle201636649.html