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Originally posted by 45 Cal:
jmarv,the remington 1903 pictured with the cmp purchase come from cmp?

I bought the M1903 from a local auction. It was advertised as a USMC rebuild. However, I'm told it's more likely to have been a post-war Navy rebuild.

I was in Navy boot camp in 59.
We drilled with the 1903a3 models.
They they took us to Pendleton and handed us an M-1 with three clips of ammo.
[Surprisingly we all qualified.]
You would have laughed your ass off if you had counted the maggy's drawers.
Old Navy don't give a shit about small arms.

OK 45 Cal, now you went and done it. That term maggie's drawers, have heard that long ago. I dont remember what that means.. Now I feel young you old salty dog. I was just born in '59.

Maggie's Drawers was the red flag waved by spotters to indicate you missed the target.

Thank you. I didnt remember that..

I don't know if they still do what we did or use spotting scopes these days.
Back then one platoon would be in the pits in a deep drench and target were on a trellis system.
The were pulled down and plugged with a marker,a miss was a red flag on along pole to alert shooter he had missed.
They the other platoon would change places for their shoot.
It was a good system.
You also might want to know we had no eye or hearing protection.
The Navy fed us good,gave us good clothes a warm rack to sleep and worked the shit out of us.
I you were poor sighted they gave you some of the ugliest glasses,when you went deaf they discharged you as there were lots of guys trying to get in to replace your ass.
Great time in my life,would do it all over again.

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Originally posted by 45 Cal:
Back then one platoon would be in the pits in a deep drench and target were on a trellis system.
The were pulled down and plugged with a marker,a miss was a red flag on along pole to alert shooter he had missed.

The way I learned about Maggie's Drawers was that my father got five in a row when he was trying to qualify during WWII. He'd fire one shot, get Maggie's Drawers, fire again, Maggie's Drawers, and again...

He asked the instructor how the guys in the pit knew immediately he had missed, since for everybody else they had to be told to look for hits. Turns out, he had bumped his sights and put all his rounds into the wooden target supports just off the target paper. A tight, 2" group at 200 yards he said, all into the frame.

Neighbor just got back from Houston. His FIL has a nice assortment of M1s and a couple 1903s...

Holly hell I'll say,he got one of them expensive one also.
I have drooled each time I went to CMP on the scoped ones.

This thread is entirely too stagnant.

While re-oiling part of my collection this morning, I decided to get a group photo of some of my Enfields and their bayonets.



WW1 P14
WW1 No. 1 Mk. III SMLE
WW2 No. 1 Mk. III SMLE
WW2 No. 4 Mk. 1
Post-WW2 No. 5 Mk. 1

Garands

Rogue;how do you like the web sling?
I have both you have pictured,leather stiff as a board[I know I need to address that]
The web has been in the washing machine a couple times and it still sucks.
When I shoot I like to use a hasty sling and it fights back.

I prefer the look and feel of the M1907 leather sling. (That one is from Turner Slings.) But I prefer the ease of use of the M1 web sling.

Mostly they're just for looks, though. I rarely sling up when shooting my Garands. I don't compete or shoot for groups; I shoot those for fun.

The leather sling was the primary one used during WW2, with the web sling only showing up in use in limited numbers towards the end of the war, starting in mid-1944. However, the web sling was more common after WW2.

Thanks,that web has got some more trips in the washing machine

My modest collection; only relatively recently got bitten by this bug so have a few more on the list to acquire eventually.

1941 Ishevsk SVT-40
1942 Finnish VKT M39 Mosin
1942 Swiss K31
Russian letter series('56) unissued/unrefurbed Tula SKS

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Originally posted by 45 Cal:
Rogue;how do you like the web sling?
I have both you have pictured,leather stiff as a board[I know I need to address that]
The web has been in the washing machine a couple times and it still sucks.
When I shoot I like to use a hasty sling and it fights back.

My '44 A303 has the leather sling with the metal grommets(?). My DCM Garand has the web sling. Way, way back when, in my teens, my dad showed me how to use the leather sling, but I remember it being damned complicated. However, I can easily wrap the web on the Garand for a half-assed sling-hold, which works for me for fun.

Well, since Photobucket decided to go Full Retard, thus breaking all of the photos I've posted in this thread, I figured I'd better repost some of my milsurps.

The rest of my collection is long overdue for some newer/better photos, so I didn't bother migrating them over to my new account. I'll get some new photos of those done when the mood strikes me.

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Spent the morning updating my insurance records and re-oiling my collection. Took some more photos along the way of some additional rifles in my collection.

Mosin-Nagant Rifles:
1892 Izhevsk M91
1915 Izhevsk M91
1895 Izhevsk M91/30
1926 Tula M91/30
1942/52 MO Dual Date Izhevsk M91/30



Mosin-Nagant Carbines:
1943 Izhevsk M38
1945 Izhevsk M44
1945 Izhevsk M44
1955 Polish Wz. 48 (single shot .22 trainer)



Finnish Mosin-Nagants:
1942 Sako M39
1941 VKT M39



Indian 7.62 Enfields:
1965 Ishapore 2A
1967 Ishapore 2A1



1941 Swiss K31:



SKSs:
Yugoslavian M56/66A1
Norinco (technically not a milsurp)

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RogueJSK - between your two SKS rifles, do you find you have a preference for one over the other?

I like the fit and finish of the Yugo better. And it has nicer wood that's a bit thicker and more comfortable to grasp.

But it's also longer and noticeably front-heavy, thanks to the grenade launcher, flip-up launcher sight, and adjustable gas mechanism. So I prefer the weight and balance of the standard SKS.