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Into what type of jazz style would someone like Coltrane be categorized? Perhaps also Thelonius Monk? Styles where instruments may be playing somewhat independently with discordant notes.

What about Stan Getz? Or Art Pepper? Houston Person / Ron Carter?

I'm finding I'm more inclined towards the latter style of jazz than the former but not sure what genre to call it when I go searching for similar types of artists.




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I'm finding I'm more inclined towards the latter style of jazz than the former but not sure what genre to call it when I go searching for similar types of artists.


Not sure I understand what you’re asking. Are you looking for more traditional jazz or the “free” and discordant?


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Modal Jazz and Free Jazz are what I keep finding under Google.
 
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Sorry - looking for less Coltrane style and more Getz / Pepper style. So, sounds like less "free" and more structured.




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The Google machine says cool jazz and bossa nova.
 
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Don´t really know what to answer, Cool maybe but i peek at the jazznblues.club webpage when looking for references and connected artists and albums.
I love Cool but not particularly fond of Bossa. Seems a contradiction when talking about Getz.

Usually, when i like an album i check each and every member of the band to see where the particular style i like comes from and then follow that artist.

Amongst my favorite saxophone albums are Getz/Barron and Pepper/Cables duos (with piano).

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I have always referred to it in general terms as "bebop" jazz, guys like Charlie Parker, Coltrane, Monk, early Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespe, etc. Later in the 50s when the melodies and playing calmed down a bit, the term "cool jazz" was bantered about, the epitome of this music was Davis' Kind of Blue album. The music from this period is still a favorite, gets more airplay in my household than any other genre of music.



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isn't Coltrane consided Blue Note jazz?



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Stan Getz is mostly cool jazz. Less group improvisation, more formally written out pieces of music, slower tempos than bebop, more classical music elements. And of course, he did a lot of samba and bossa nova stuff.



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Thanks guys - sounds like cool jazz is what I'm seeking. I'll look into bebop as well. Neither term is familiar to me.

I like samba and bossa too, but I can only take them in short bursts. After about an hour, I feel like I've eaten too much sugar or something.

I really like Getz and Pepper these days, also Houston Person/Ron Carter.




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I find Getz last live performance with Barron exceptional in its coolness. Also moving, knowing he died no long afterwards.

The original edited People Time (double CD album) is much better than the later full concert edition. Just saying.

https://casamundus.com.ar/prod...n-people-time-2-cds/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Complete_Recordings

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Sounds like Cool Jazz and West Coast Jazz would be good places for you to start. I really love West Coast Jazz. I'm generally not a fan of Hard Bop. I like some melody line and some gentle harmonies. I listen to jazz to relax and the edge on Hard Bop and Post Bop don't really accomplish that for me. I particularly like West Coast Jazz pianists. It is also hard to beat Chet Baker for relaxation. Perfect whiskey music.


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A big Jazz fan of all genres but it is hard to label it for me as well.
You know it when you hear it, generally from a period in time and the pace is different.
 
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Thanks guys.

I've got People Time. I'll look into Chet Baker.

Cool Jazz and West Coast Jazz - I'll look into artists.




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For your pleasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFIbU9MNv5w
Art Pepper Winter Moon album.

Not sax based but also top notch, The Great Jazz Trio. There were occasionally joined by a sax player (Sadao Watanabe and others). Most enjoyable. This brings me to Sadao playing in "Charlie Parker mode" which is different of the rest of his other multiple styles. He also does Bossa.
Finally, the late Charlie Watts (Rolling Stones) jazz groups were excellent and also Charlie Parker´s influenced. I favor the instrumentl albums but the sung ones are very good too.

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What about Stan Getz? Or Art Pepper? Houston Person / Ron Carter?

I don't know how to categorize it, but if you enjoy Stan Getz, Art Pepper, and Houston Person, you may want to check out Ben Webster, Lester Young, Coleman Hawkins, and Scott Hamilton.

A quick taste: Ben Webster with Oscar Peterson is simply sublime.



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If you're not familiar with it check out https://www.jazzradio.com/
 
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Oscar Peterson is a winner every time!


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Seems like the West Coast style is more enjoyable for you.  Time Out by the Dave Brubeck Quartet is a natural.  Here are a few couch, lady, fireplace, brandy suggestions.

Paul Desmond had a soft touch on the sax. Check out his other releases.

Glad to be Unhappy.

https://youtu.be/av0mD9YYfEg?si=0X0kvNy3eHRKdXz0

Feeling Blue

https://youtu.be/TZaUByp-AX4?si=JM7bxZqbCh0obWUE

Gerry Mulligan, Night Lights

https://youtu.be/nrXKpp_GR5k?si=vEm-h2mD44vbvD-G

Jazz Harp?  Dorothy Ashby please.

Dorothy Asby.

https://youtu.be/S-UaoR0FRDE?si=6X-kEE3f6x_5KMZN

Jazz Harpist.

https://youtu.be/5gN9nBwco84?si=N7yiCP_g9-fglLI1

Fantastic Jazz Harp of Dorothy Ashby.

https://youtu.be/AKzKwjqxvio?si=BL-DYpd7pTE4jV1O

Django/Misty.  A quiet one.

https://youtu.be/KazJnDbRU4A?si=TH-przCiqzMeZfmC

There are more.  I recommended so many because she is very listenable but now very obscure. 

Bob Brookmayer, trombonist.

Trombone Jazz Samba

https://youtu.be/MrJ3WQgRD8E?si=Tg_5gyFGDhwAJD-O

Stan Getz, Big Band Bossa Nova.

https://youtu.be/8Lgdd5z6xRY?si=kjaFTE1GS4MecSoD

Paul Desmond and Gerry Mulligan together.

Two of a Mind.

https://youtu.be/L14LwiIHUk8?si=jUKONF19DfIBZGwR

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In a league of its own, Vince Guaraldi 's Charlie Brown Christmas. His other releases are listenable.

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