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Into what type of jazz style would someone like Coltrane be categorized? Perhaps also Thelonius Monk? Styles where instruments may be playing somewhat independently with discordant notes. What about Stan Getz? Or Art Pepper? Houston Person / Ron Carter? I'm finding I'm more inclined towards the latter style of jazz than the former but not sure what genre to call it when I go searching for similar types of artists. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | ||
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Not sure I understand what you’re asking. Are you looking for more traditional jazz or the “free” and discordant? __________________ "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician." -Jeff Cooper | |||
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Modal Jazz and Free Jazz are what I keep finding under Google. | |||
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Sorry - looking for less Coltrane style and more Getz / Pepper style. So, sounds like less "free" and more structured. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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The Google machine says cool jazz and bossa nova. | |||
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Don´t really know what to answer, Cool maybe but i peek at the jazznblues.club webpage when looking for references and connected artists and albums. I love Cool but not particularly fond of Bossa. Seems a contradiction when talking about Getz. Usually, when i like an album i check each and every member of the band to see where the particular style i like comes from and then follow that artist. Amongst my favorite saxophone albums are Getz/Barron and Pepper/Cables duos (with piano). Do you have Plex? 0-0 "OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20 | |||
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I have always referred to it in general terms as "bebop" jazz, guys like Charlie Parker, Coltrane, Monk, early Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespe, etc. Later in the 50s when the melodies and playing calmed down a bit, the term "cool jazz" was bantered about, the epitome of this music was Davis' Kind of Blue album. The music from this period is still a favorite, gets more airplay in my household than any other genre of music. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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isn't Coltrane consided Blue Note jazz? https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Stan Getz is mostly cool jazz. Less group improvisation, more formally written out pieces of music, slower tempos than bebop, more classical music elements. And of course, he did a lot of samba and bossa nova stuff. I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log. | |||
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Thanks guys - sounds like cool jazz is what I'm seeking. I'll look into bebop as well. Neither term is familiar to me. I like samba and bossa too, but I can only take them in short bursts. After about an hour, I feel like I've eaten too much sugar or something. I really like Getz and Pepper these days, also Houston Person/Ron Carter. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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I find Getz last live performance with Barron exceptional in its coolness. Also moving, knowing he died no long afterwards. The original edited People Time (double CD album) is much better than the later full concert edition. Just saying. https://casamundus.com.ar/prod...n-people-time-2-cds/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Complete_Recordings 0-0 "OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20 | |||
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Sounds like Cool Jazz and West Coast Jazz would be good places for you to start. I really love West Coast Jazz. I'm generally not a fan of Hard Bop. I like some melody line and some gentle harmonies. I listen to jazz to relax and the edge on Hard Bop and Post Bop don't really accomplish that for me. I particularly like West Coast Jazz pianists. It is also hard to beat Chet Baker for relaxation. Perfect whiskey music. _________________________ Sometimes good people have to do bad things to bad people to prevent bad people from doing bad things to good people. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.-Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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A big Jazz fan of all genres but it is hard to label it for me as well. You know it when you hear it, generally from a period in time and the pace is different. | |||
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Thanks guys. I've got People Time. I'll look into Chet Baker. Cool Jazz and West Coast Jazz - I'll look into artists. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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For your pleasure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFIbU9MNv5w Art Pepper Winter Moon album. Not sax based but also top notch, The Great Jazz Trio. There were occasionally joined by a sax player (Sadao Watanabe and others). Most enjoyable. This brings me to Sadao playing in "Charlie Parker mode" which is different of the rest of his other multiple styles. He also does Bossa. Finally, the late Charlie Watts (Rolling Stones) jazz groups were excellent and also Charlie Parker´s influenced. I favor the instrumentl albums but the sung ones are very good too. 0-0 "OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20 | |||
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I don't know how to categorize it, but if you enjoy Stan Getz, Art Pepper, and Houston Person, you may want to check out Ben Webster, Lester Young, Coleman Hawkins, and Scott Hamilton. A quick taste: Ben Webster with Oscar Peterson is simply sublime. _____________________________________________________________________ “One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust them.” – Thomas Sowell | |||
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If you're not familiar with it check out https://www.jazzradio.com/ | |||
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Oscar Peterson is a winner every time! _________________________ Sometimes good people have to do bad things to bad people to prevent bad people from doing bad things to good people. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.-Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Seems like the West Coast style is more enjoyable for you. Time Out by the Dave Brubeck Quartet is a natural. Here are a few couch, lady, fireplace, brandy suggestions. Paul Desmond had a soft touch on the sax. Check out his other releases. Glad to be Unhappy. https://youtu.be/av0mD9YYfEg?si=0X0kvNy3eHRKdXz0 Feeling Blue https://youtu.be/TZaUByp-AX4?si=JM7bxZqbCh0obWUE Gerry Mulligan, Night Lights https://youtu.be/nrXKpp_GR5k?si=vEm-h2mD44vbvD-G Jazz Harp? Dorothy Ashby please. Dorothy Asby. https://youtu.be/S-UaoR0FRDE?si=6X-kEE3f6x_5KMZN Jazz Harpist. https://youtu.be/5gN9nBwco84?si=N7yiCP_g9-fglLI1 Fantastic Jazz Harp of Dorothy Ashby. https://youtu.be/AKzKwjqxvio?si=BL-DYpd7pTE4jV1O Django/Misty. A quiet one. https://youtu.be/KazJnDbRU4A?si=TH-przCiqzMeZfmC There are more. I recommended so many because she is very listenable but now very obscure. Bob Brookmayer, trombonist. Trombone Jazz Samba https://youtu.be/MrJ3WQgRD8E?si=Tg_5gyFGDhwAJD-O Stan Getz, Big Band Bossa Nova. https://youtu.be/8Lgdd5z6xRY?si=kjaFTE1GS4MecSoD Paul Desmond and Gerry Mulligan together. Two of a Mind. https://youtu.be/L14LwiIHUk8?si=jUKONF19DfIBZGwR Stan Getz and Bill Evans, Two of a Mind. https://youtu.be/pFVgnXJLg4M?si=eHMGXZYh8tFVMcKHThis message has been edited. Last edited by: mr kablammo, "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre. | |||
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In a league of its own, Vince Guaraldi 's Charlie Brown Christmas. His other releases are listenable. https://youtu.be/s9kma0diE3s?si=t-4sl5OHnoTLonv- "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre. | |||
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