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F1 vs Lamborghini on a Track to show the difference.

https://x.com/benmwine/status/2037975577060098548

 
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^ For a non-videogame approach.
Old but still fun, plus some V10 aural joy.





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Talking heads are shaping the conversation of the future of F1 - and the rules - as a decision of making the engine manufacturers happy or making the drivers happy.

I'm not optimistic about which they will choose.




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I did see where Martin Brundle suggested Max either quit F1 or shut up, and that no one driver was irreplaceable.
Thank you!



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FWIW here's hoping viewers are replaceable, huh, Martin?




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I did see where Martin Brundle suggested Max either quit F1 or shut up, and that no one driver was irreplaceable.
Thank you!


I disagree. Max is honest and the series is fukt with these batteries. It’s just stupid. I hope he finishes out his contract, and if this rule set remains, he bolts. He’ll race in another series and pull a fuck ton of viewers. If anything, F1 needs more drivers speaking up about how awful this is.



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I think the powers that be have to burn the midnight oil and decide what to do this week. Then the teams need to be given a few test days to sort it all out before the season resumes.
I feel like the announcement teams have been putting a heavy spin on the issue but they don’t sound like they’re convincing themselves even.
Max is doing a lot of the whining because his car is not competitive, but he’s not wrong either.
Let’s just hope they are successful.

Meanwhile, a lot of the stories are just clickbait and filler articles to kill the time so don’t put a lot into what you hear or read.


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No races in April, lots of time to work on a solution.




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I did see where Martin Brundle suggested Max either quit F1 or shut up, and that no one driver was irreplaceable.
Thank you!


I disagree. Max is honest and the series is fukt with these batteries. It’s just stupid. I hope he finishes out his contract, and if this rule set remains, he bolts. He’ll race in another series and pull a fuck ton of viewers. If anything, F1 needs more drivers speaking up about how awful this is.


I agree. There have been times in the past where either drivers or teams have boycotted a race to force changes. Look up the 1982 South African GP or the 2005 US GP ( I was there). Perhaps the time has come again…


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I don't think it'll be as bad as the 2005 USGP [can anything?]. I feel for anyone that spent $$ to go to Indy for that farce of a race.
But something has to change.




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I feel for anyone that spent $$ to go to Indy for that farce

Thank you, from smlqig and me.
I do still have the t-shirt from the following year making fun of Michelin Man.....



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Proud to have been there. In a sport steeped in history, 2005 was historic. It also taught F1 a lesson in humility, at least for a while.




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https://www.formula1.com/en/la...A0TRau0DvyId6R7oZjFv

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A number of refinements to the 2026 F1 regulations were agreed during an online meeting between F1 governing body the FIA, Team Principals, CEOs of Power Unit Manufacturers and FOM on Monday.

The final proposals presented during the meeting were the result of a series of consultations over the past few weeks between the FIA, technical representatives and extensive input from F1 drivers.

Discussions around potential adjustments were based on data gathered from the first three events of the 2026 season in Australia, China and Japan.

As referenced in a statement from the FIA, the proposals agreed – outlined below under four key sections – will be implemented from the Miami Grand Prix, apart from the race start changes that are set to be tested in Miami and adopted following feedback and analysis.

Qualifying – promoting performance
-Adjustments to energy management parameters, including a reduction in maximum permitted recharge from 8MJ to 7MJ, aimed at reducing excessive harvesting and encouraging more consistent flat-out driving. This change targets a maximum superclip duration reduced to approximately two to four seconds per lap.
-Peak superclip power increased to 350 kW, previously being 250 kW, further reducing the time spent recharging, and reducing driver workload on energy management. This will also be applied in race conditions.
-The number of events where alternative lower energy limits may apply has been increased from eight to 12 races, allowing greater adaptation to circuit characteristics.

Race – improved safety and consistency of performance
-The maximum power available through the Boost in race conditions is now capped at +150 kW (or the car’s current power level at activation if higher) limiting sudden performance differentials.
-MGU-K deployment is maintained at 350 kW in key acceleration zones (from corner exit to braking point, including overtaking zones) but will be limited to 250 kW in other parts of the lap.
-These measures are designed to reduce excessive closing speeds while maintaining overtaking opportunities and overall performance characteristics.

Race starts – enhanced safety mechanisms
-A new ‘low power start detection’ system has been developed, capable of identifying cars with abnormally low acceleration shortly after clutch release.
-In such cases, an automatic MGU-K deployment will be triggered to ensure a minimum level of acceleration and mitigate start-related risks without introducing any sporting advantage.
-An associated visual warning system is being introduced, activating flashing lights (rear and lateral) on affected cars to alert following drivers.
-A reset of the energy counter at the start of the formation lap has also been implemented to correct a previously identified system inconsistency.

Wet conditions – improving safety and visibility
-Tyre blanket temperatures for intermediate tyres have been increased following driver feedback in order to improve initial grip and tyre performance in wet conditions.
-Maximum ERS deployment will be reduced, limiting torque and improving car control in low-grip conditions.
-The rear light systems have been simplified, with clearer and more consistent visual cues to improve visibility and reaction time for following drivers in poor conditions.

These final proposals will now be put before an FIA World Motor Sport Council e-vote before their planned implementation





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I'm no engineer but it's nearly impossible for a semi-knowledgeable fan with decades following to decode what all this BS will mean in actual racing.

Maybe that's a sign..... for either them or me.



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I'm no engineer but it's nearly impossible for a semi-knowledgeable fan with decades following to decode what all this BS will mean in actual racing.

Maybe that's a sign..... for either them or me.


I told a buddy recently. This is probably the absolute worst year to be a new fan.
The ruleset is so complex, and all the stuff going on with the cars on track is complicated.

I agree, some of this is hard to follow as a long-time fan.

IMO:
Up the fuel flow limit [and the max fuel capacity if needed]
Up the rev limit so there is power with the extra fuel
This would make up for some of the reduction in the EV side of things, shift it back to a majority ICE power.

Shouldn't be hearing the engine rev down while at WOT on a long straight. Just seems so wrong.
Saw a short on YT a couple weeks ago, Vettel in a V8 RBR in Australia going through T11-12
Nearly wide open & pushing
Jump to this year & Russell, getting a decel/ramp down approaching T11. Faster overall, but just dumb.




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Maybe that's a sign..... for either them or me.


F1 has been successful grabbing new eyes with Netflix's "Drive to Survive", Apple TV's "F1 The Movie", American teams Haas and now Cadillac, Ford partnering with Red Bull. Now they throttle their best talent with green, self-righteous masturbation, yikes. Another permutation of suicidal empathy in its way, not inappropriate for 2026 UK.

With the world on fire, F1 seems to think it's bigger than all that. I'm second guessing my Apple TV subscription, I must say.

Maybe Lew hooking up with a Kardashian will save the day.




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Thinking they decided the overall powertrain regulations in a time when everybody was supposed to be buying those electrical doodads since they were 'the way of the future'.

Ooops.




 
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F1 management seems to have forgotten what got them here.
They are so hooked on catering to the manufacturers because they bring in the big money. But the need to pay for those expensive items is consuming the money.
The thrill of watching the speed and talent was the draw for decades.
Now they seem to think watching battery management and covered up by artificial passing
will satisfy all sides.

If you've never seen the real thing, watch this from 2009. It's not AI, this is the real deal, so turn up the sound and watch it on a big screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5_ajQ92ZQo


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Istanbul Park will return to the Formula 1 calendar as part of a new five-year agreement.




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Cadillac livery for Miami

https://www.formula1.com/en/la...Nl9HEiAWWI9QWpr0MN4l






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