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HOLY SHIT Eek


Yup, that was wild. Great race
A bit exuberant by the winner, looks like he broke the windscreen off




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That round the outside pass by Pecco at the end… I was almost yelling at the screen. That was phenomenal and I thought he had it. When that didn’t go his way I knew how the podium would finish. Brad’s rear tire was completely shot. Bend it like Binder. Did you see how out of line his KTM was in terms of front to rear tire? Guy crosses it up like nobody else.
Finally a race to the wire. These last 3 races are going to be very intense. Sepang is a phenomenal race track. Qatar will be unreal under the lights.



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You guys hear about this?

MotoGP agrees to limit displacement to 850cc

If they were truly brave they would limit it to 500cc and allow forced induction. Big Grin

2027 is around the time their gradual switch over to fully renewable/sustainable fuels will be completed.

I would love to see the top level of motorcycle racing consider forced induction as a way to continue to improve power numbers while also improving efficiency. It would be a damn bold move if they did it.

If they end up with some sort of ethanol fuel that’s another reason to consider forced induction as it tends to respond well to that kind of fuel.


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It'll be interesting to see what effect this has on lap times, and if they're going to similarly reduce the Moto2 displacement from the 765cc they're at now.




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MotoGP should make 500cc bikes great again.

Allow turbo chargers and super chargers and watch the 500cc class again become a thing of wonder. It won’t be as cool as this but it will be fun.

Crank you volume and witness the AWSOME power and sound of a two stroke on pipe.



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It'll be interesting to see what effect this has on lap times, and if they're going to similarly reduce the Moto2 displacement from the 765cc they're at now.


Lap times won’t change much. This is literally history repeating itself. They’ll just carry more corner speed and the lap times won’t be any different. They went from the 990cc displacement in 2006 to 800cc in 2007. The 800’s were boring and the racing was processional.



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Moto Matters: Cecchinelli On The Future Of MotoGP

This is all his personal opinion, but I think we can see where he wants this all to go. I say just drop the aero and ride height shit. If they really want to go smaller, I’m with stick: let’s see some turbo and super charger setups. Gotta remember they’re gonna go to full synthetic fuel soon, so if they really just want to slow them down, all they’d need to do is drop 1/2 gallon. Can’t run full tilt down the straights if you’re afraid of running out of fuel.


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They should be careful not to be like F1. F1 is processional and boring AF with far too many rules and not nearly enough last lap passing or battling. They should be cutting edge and innovative.

If they truly care about ICE engines they cannot survive long without forced induction. It will make them far more efficient and powerful. For Dorna to resist such a move is to slit their own throat.


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Maverick Vinales lamented on Thursday at the Malaysian Grand Prix that he could no longer use the latest starting system introduced by the Noale brand.

"That is hurting us. But I can't say anything more," the Spaniard limited himself to saying.

Asked afterwards by Aleix Espargaro, his team-mate, put his foot in his mouth: "Did Maverick say that? We can't talk about this subject," he replied when asked by Motorsport.com.

The answer given by all Aprilia sources consulted was the same: "We have been forbidden to talk about this".

However, Motorsport.com can confirm that a complaint from a competing manufacturer has forced Aprilia to stop using, since the Australian Grand Prix, the latest clutch specification incorporated into the RS-GP.

This system helped improve the Aprilia's starting capabilities, after both Vinales and Espargaro struggled off the line earlier in the season.

Several of the sources consulted suspect that the complaint came from KTM, which believes that the version of the clutch in question is in breach of the technical regulations, given that its operation depends too much on the electronic control unit.

In fact, this is an area of the regulations that is currently under review, as it has some grey areas.

At first, the championship's technical managers gave the go-ahead to the component, considering that it did not work fully automatically, but required the rider's input.

"You only have to see the video of how the Aprilia's come out, to understand that it is an automatic clutch, like the one used by Formula 1," a track engineer in the Sepang paddock explained to Motorsport.com.

The most amazing thing about the case is that, since the beginning of the season, KTM had developed a new starting system on its RC16 that had allowed it to make a huge step forward.

At Mugello, Jack Miller had time to move from fifth on the grid to first in half a straight, and show the 'V' for victory sign to poleman Francesco Bagnaia by raising his hand from the left fist of his bike's handlebars.

The system, introduced by KTM in June, allowed the RC16 to be the best starting bike on the grid.

"It's unbelievable that Binder starts from the fourth row and in the first corner he's leading the race, that really needs to be investigated," a veteran technician from Aprilia told Motorsport.com.

Following complaints from its riders about problems when starting on the grid, Aprilia designed a clutch that, theoretically, is not automatic but works as if it was, which led to the aforementioned complaint and the withdrawal.

KTM, in addition to the complaint about Aprilia's clutch, asked the technical commission for a modification of the current regulations in order to get its own clutch homologated, which works very similarly to Aprilia's clutch.

For the time being, the Austrian manufacturer voluntarily removed the system from its bikes at the last race in Thailand, awaiting a possible modification of the regulations that would allow them to use it again.

With Aprilia and KTM unable to use their new clutches, Ducati, which is the manufacturer that three years ago started to work with carbon and electronic assistance in its friction system, has, right now, the best and fastest starting device of the MotoGP grid.




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LOL. Handbags like F1, now in MotoGP Razz



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Championship remains tight for the last 2 rounds. Congrats to Beast for finally getting back on the top step. He was gone! All the injuries and set backs he’s had all year. He sent a clear message to Ducati today about his factory seat.



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Good to see Enea back at it. That was a big conversion from most of the season.

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It was great to see the beast back on the top of the podium.

Interesting info on Aprilia. I noticed the progress they seem to have been making abruptly stopped the last couple of races. Not surprised Maverick was bitching about it even when he isn’t allowed to discuss it. Big Grin


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Interesting info on Aprilia. I noticed the progress they seem to have been making abruptly stopped the last couple of races. Not surprised Maverick was bitching about it even when he isn’t allowed to discuss it. Big Grin


Maverick is the most dramatic, whiny shitass I've seen in any class of GP racing since I started watching in 2017. Even his buddy Aleix has had his fill of him.

The race this week was a total snoozefest in my opinion. Not to take anything away from Bastianini, but I find it funny that when teams start talking about dropping a rider for a lack of performance, they suddenly "find" some speed and pace? I know he's been hurt all season but I find it suspicious Confused


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Maverick is the most dramatic, whiny shitass I've seen in any class of GP racing since I started watching in 2017. Even his buddy Aleix has had his fill of him.

The race this week was a total snoozefest in my opinion. Not to take anything away from Bastianini, but I find it funny that when teams start talking about dropping a rider for a lack of performance, they suddenly "find" some speed and pace? I know he's been hurt all season but I find it suspicious Confused


It was a marked pace shift from Enea, compared to almost the entirety of the season, especially with Bags at the front.




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Maverick is the most dramatic, whiny shitass I've seen in any class of GP racing since I started watching in 2017. Even his buddy Aleix has had his fill of him.

The race this week was a total snoozefest in my opinion. Not to take anything away from Bastianini, but I find it funny that when teams start talking about dropping a rider for a lack of performance, they suddenly "find" some speed and pace? I know he's been hurt all season but I find it suspicious Confused



Well I continue to disagree on Maverick. But I’ve been watching this sport for a quarter century. You obviously were not around to see Jorge Lorenzo and Casey Moaner whine and bitch like 13 year old girls. Simoncelli even called them girls. It was that bad.

Enea has been fucked up all year with injuries and then some. It has nothing to do with dropping him or otherwise. Did you not see what he did last season? Like Bez, he was winning races, 4 in 2022 IIRC, on the old Ducati. He scored poles as well and was fast as fuck, and a real talent. He got injured in the beginning of the year and just now getting to full fitness.

If you only watch the races you really don’t know what is going on. There is so much information that goes down in the practice sessions, press conferences, and interviews, on the side.



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He was really just back to his old form. The prospect of losing your seat on a factory Ducati is motivating sure but maybe he is finally getting healthy enough to race like he used to. Could be a combo of both.


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Thanks gents, I'm one of the race only viewers. Would watch practice & quali if it were broadcast.
When I got into it 20, Moto2 was occasionally shown live, too & that was great.

Not sure why Dorna doesn't have better broadcast agreements, unless they're pushing for more to pony up for the app.
I will say, that's definitely one spot that F1 has up on GP.
Their TV direction is usually a bit better, as a whole.
But, then, GP is a lot more unpredictable, so having the camera in the right place, at the right time is trickier.




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I sympathize with those who think this was one of the dumbest moves ever if it turns out to be true.

Luca Marini’s Honda decision blasted as “one of worst in history - why would he do that?”

A satellite Ducati can win races and even challenge for the championship. Honda won one race and that rider is out for the rest of the season because that damn bike just loves to punt its riders. HRC’s RC 213 is so uncompetitive it forces its riders to constantly push its limits which as you can expect resulted in a record breaking number of crashes.


It really makes you wonder if Dani Pedrosa was the reason HRC was able to win with Marc Marquez. It seems crystal clear that while MM is a great rider and braver than me he can’t develop a bike nor is he up for the challenge.


This is so ironic for me to type this because for years I bitched about him needing to win with another manufacturer to be taken seriously as one of the greatest of all times. Clearly the moto gods are mocking me. Big Grin


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