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Frangas non Flectes
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So, it was a six stage all-classifier. I was going to shoot my G19, but a friend who was going loaned me the top end off his G17, so I got to try the GPT trigger in my G17 frame at the match. I like it. When shooting on the clock, I don't even recall the trigger, so it was feels like it gets out of the way more than the factory trigger does. I also don't visually recall my sight picture for most of the match, either, and that was shooting irons. With any luck, this will be my last match shooting Limited for some time unless I specifically choose to. Carry Optics for me going forward!

I shot a lot better overall than I could have. I'm definitely seeing improvement. I don't get jitters, I don't get the heart rate and anxiety stuff anymore. My reloads are pretty fast and pretty clean, I think the biggest thing to work on is a repeatable draw and consistent grip, then getting as fast on the trigger as I can. Oh, and I definitely need some 'stendo baseplates. One of the stages was Righty Tighty (22-01), and I started left, went right, then advanced on the front targets for the last three shooting strong hand on the move. No misses, no no-shoots, 12 A, 5 C, 1 D, but my time wasn't amazing because I slide locked with one round left to put on the last target and it somehow caught me by surprise and I had to reload. I just didn't even think to count it up during the stage planning and loaded a 17rd mag in the gun. Roll Eyes

On that note, I've had two failures with Glock +2 baseplates and don't trust them anymore. One was dropping a loaded magazine on the bedroom floor and every last piece flying all over the room in a shower of ammo. Never did find the follower or the inner piece to the baseplate, even when we moved. Match before last, I dropped an empty out of my gun and when I picked it up, the baseplate had dislodged. That was on a fresh Gen 5 body, spring and follower, too. I got recommendations to buy the Taran baseplates from some of the guys, but I didn't feel like spending Taran Tactical bucks and ordered three Strike EMP's to try out. Yeah, I know, buy once, cry once and all that.


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Posts: 19011 | Location: Sonoran Desert | Registered: February 10, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Taran Tactical has a 20% off sale for almost every holiday. Expect to see it around labor day.

Honestly, though, 21 round Glock PMAGs for $18 or whatever they charge are about a 90% solution for less than half the cost of most extensions.

Also not sure if you're a USPSA member, but if you aren't, check out hitfactor.info to look up current high hit factors for the classifiers you shot if you want to calculate what your classification would be.
 
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Those P Mags are about what there is for a one piece 140mm. I don't understand why Glock brought out a 24 shot magazine, it is too long for IPSC or USPSA.
 
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I haven’t bothered with the Glock Pmags because I hear such mixed stuff about them, but I might give some of those 21’s a try.

Not a USPSA member. Yet, anyway. I wanted to get the gear dialed in enough to start really seeing if I can get to a point where I can assess my potential before I spent the coin. Two trashed knees mean I’m basically never going to be fast enough to be truly competitive, it’s just mainly to get better under pressure against the clock.


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On the Glock +2

Years ago, my ex was driving and we stopped for gas. She had a 26 on her ankle with a +2. She banged it on the car getting out and I heard “clang” and then the sound of all 12 rounds rolling across the concrete.

I stopped using them after that.


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I haven’t bothered with the Glock Pmags because I hear such mixed stuff about them, but I might give some of those 21’s a try.

Not a USPSA member. Yet, anyway. I wanted to get the gear dialed in enough to start really seeing if I can get to a point where I can assess my potential before I spent the coin. Two trashed knees mean I’m basically never going to be fast enough to be truly competitive, it’s just mainly to get better under pressure against the clock.


I've read all of the mixed reviews, too, but I've probably got two dozen of them, they get used, and they work. I think you get a lot of high opinion, low commitment input on the internet.
 
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I've read all of the mixed reviews, too, but I've probably got two dozen of them, they get used, and they work. I think you get a lot of high opinion, low commitment input on the internet.


Ugh, so true. I trust you, I’ll pick up several to try out. Thanks for the tip. Smile

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On the Glock +2


Yeesh. Yeah, sample size of two baseplates here and both of them screwed up on me. I stopped using them for carry after that ammo shower, and now I don’t trust them for gun games, either. In the parts bin of misfit toys they go.


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Posts: 19011 | Location: Sonoran Desert | Registered: February 10, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Shooting my first State Match this weekend with a newer organization. Expectations are high.

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I shot two locals this week.

On Tuesday I went and shot a fairly large weekly match about two hours away. Shot a 72% classifier (09-10) which was a little disappointing. It was what I would call "GM speed, B hits" where, had it been all Alpha, it would have made roughly 95%, but it was not. Had some other mistakes including an uncalled miss (obviously if it was called, you would make it up, right?) and a mag pouch failure that resulted in me losing a spare mag and having to reload off of a partial from the ground that ended up one round short of enough to finish the stage. Ended up 13/53 and 4/19 in carry optics.

The second local was a smaller monthly match about an hour away. I make it to this one every month and am generally "in the hunt." I had gone to the range in the early afternoon and had a really frustrating 580 round training session so I didn't really know what to think. I ended up crushing the match and ending up with a roughly 10% win. There were only 17 shooters. I won one of the stages by 17% by running the exact opposite stage plan as almost everybody else. Pretty happy with that.

I have three matches in three days at the end of the month so I'm looking forward to the pace there as I've got four majors between mid-August and early October.
 
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I shot the local IDPA match yesterday. My time wasn’t great, but all my shots were on the targets.

The only booger of the day (for me) was that I didn’t have the magazine fully inserted at the start of the third stage. Recovering from that cost me a couple of seconds.

Hot and sweaty? Yes.
Great fun? Also yes. Smile




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Shooting a different type of match this weekend.
Centerfire rifle on steel at 50 yards. 556 max caliber. 6 stages from the low ready, including a 9 hole wall.
At 68, let’s see if I can get off the concrete after shooting the bottom 3 on the wall!
 
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Got back in town, picked these up, and got to the range and zeroed yesterday. Quite pleased with the results so far, and the Strike Ind. extensions work fine thus far. 22rounds, and they fit the 140mm dimensions for Carry Optics. Biggest problem so far is presenting from the draw and the dot being consistently out of view, but high. If I can fix my draw so I’m pushing the muzzle down just enough and not too far, I think I should be alright. Some fast pairs yesterday felt controllable and easy. Tracking the dot for the entire recoil cycle through the SRO was definitely an “ok, I get it” moment. I was telling a friend about it and he said it best: "having a dot really helped my shooting and dry fire because l can see whats happening as it happens. Then you get a big ol window and its just more information." I'm doing a lot of dry fire and already cleaning up slop out of my trigger prep and press I didn't know I had.



Having sinus surgery done 9/2, and the following couple weeks or so, I don’t see myself doing any shooting, so I need to get a match or two in before then. The guys in my shooting group are getting antsy for fire restrictions to end so we can get back out in the desert for a night shoot and they’re going ham on matches until then. Last night, I went out in the back yard after dark and cowitnessed the laser on the TLR-VIR II to the dot on the G17. I'm pretty excited to try that combo out.

On that note, the guy who’s organizing the 2 gun NV matches that resume in October told one of our guys he’d give us the link to the next one a week early so we can hopefully lock a whole squad down. There’s a couple dozen of us and we’re steadily growing over time, so that shouldn’t be an issue. If we can pull that off, I’ll post a supercut video of our runs through NODs when the time rolls around. We have a couple of Instagram wizards who have the hypebeast vibe figured out. Razz


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On a bit of a tear lately:

7/26: Local monthly match. 4/41 overall and 2/8 CO. Classifier was a disaster at 52%.

7/27: Larger match out of town with proceeds benefitting Concerns of Police Survivors. It was terribly hot so everybody was in "get it done" mode. We did not really do tablet reviews so I was really surprised to be 5/79 overall and 2/38 in CO. I missed a division win by less than one match point (0.07%).

7/28: Local LE-only match. Ended up 3rd to two Masters. As the organizer of this match you would think I would do better.

8/5: Local match halfway across the state. Ended up 4/50 and 1/12 in CO. Shot several of the provisional 2025 classifiers and I like what I see so far. Shot 82.68% on the active classifier (06-10) which will help my percentage a little. I had a really good match with no glaring errors.

Upcoming:

Locals on 8/12, 8/17, 8/18, 8/21, and possibly 8/26. Majors on 8/23 (Southern Illinois), 9/5 (Iowa), 9/20 (Midwest LE Handgun Classic), and 10/4 (Indiana). Trying to get a bunch of locals in in short order to prep for the majors. That will probably be a big push through the end of the outdoor shooting season.
 
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Got a match Sunday, really looking forward to this one. 9/10 of us on the squad are guys from my NV group. We managed to lock almost the entire thing down before a random guy took the last slot. Should be an absolute giggle.

Went to the range this morning with one of them and did some fundamentals work. Lots of dry fire and quick doubles to shake out the bugs. I found myself pushing shots low and jerking the trigger, but before we left, I was putting quick doubles an inch or so apart at 15 yards as fast as I could find the dot, so I feel good about Sunday. Gonna keep at it with the dry fire.

It’s weird, I have a much, much easier time shooting the G45 faster and cleaner than the G17. I may very well shoot the match with it.


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Not weird to me. I shoot my G45 faster and better than my G47 or G17.

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It’s weird, I have a much, much easier time shooting the G45 faster and cleaner than the G17. I may very well shoot the match with it.
 
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Shot the first of the upcomings I listed above a couple nights back. Had a miss and a malfunction that relegated me to 7/54 overall and 2/4 in CO. But I shot 98% on classifier 06-04, which was pretty cool.

It's not a complicated one (only 50 points with three paper and two steel), but it plays to my strengths (draw speed and target transitions). I was happy to have the draw in under a second and splits and transitions that were within a total range of .12. The big thing was that it felt totally under control and not pushing. It lifted my classification by 4%.
 
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Not weird to me. I shoot my G45 faster and better than my G47 or G17.


I got to also shoot a friend's G47 in the mix there as well. It wasn't as flippy as the G17, but I still found myself liking the G45 better.

I think I'll just run it and see how I do.


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Used the G17 because SRO. I feel like I shot pretty well. I have no actual complaints about my performance. Averaged HF of 3.2 for five stages. My stage planning was better, my accuracy was good, I was faster and more fluid. I'm starting to achieve the mental state where you're visualizing your next moves as you're shooting. Draws and reloads were good, felt smooth. I think it's just down to reps and putting in the dry fire, and shooting more matches.

Shooting on a firing line at the range, I'm not finding much of any help, to be honest. It just doesn't translate. Shooting for groups with a dot just sucks. It's totally different on the clock, and yes, it felt so much faster vs irons. I cannot wait for fire restrictions to end so I can get out in the desert with the guys and start putting in some real work.

The Strike baseplates are working out great. I ordered three of them to try out, and I think I'm gonna order another three and call that my match loadout.

Shooting a match Thursday at my club. My fee is comped because I volunteered to help set up Wednesday afternoon. It'll be a good opportunity to meet some match directors and get info. This one is open PCC or shotgun, with an option to do 2 gun with either. Don't have a shotgun set up for this stuff, but if I read the description correctly, suppressed PCC is a go. I have a new flow-through can for the Stribog, so this'll be a fun opportunity to put it to use. My 2025 New Year's resolution was to shoot at least a match per month, and I'm on track to at least average that so far. Hopefully surpass it and get pistol bay privileges at my club before it starts getting hot again in the spring.


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Shot Illinois Sectional, my first major of 2025, last weekend. Ended up 44/199 overall and 20/81 in carry optics or something like that. I would have liked a little better placement, but I had 78% in carry optics and I was hoping to shoot my classification (which was 81%) so I feel like I essentially met that goal. Had a pretty good squad and will probably plan to shoot this match again next year.

Hit a local a couple hours from home on Tuesday night and thanks to an 86% classifier, have now made it to 83.3620%. I think right now I need one more at 89% to make Master. That would be pretty neat since my goal for the year was A.

Iowa Sectional next weekend.
 
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I shot a precision/steel rifle match over the weekend. The first day was 22lr only, with targets from 50 to 406 yards. This is just an uber fun, low-key match. My Kimber sporter isn't in the league of repeater conversion rifles that most of competitors use, but it works. Ended up with a podium finish. Woohoo!

After the rimfire match, the centerfire practice/zero range is open for all -- to warm up and get dope for the next day's match. I absolutely kicked ass in the sight-in range, hitting 8 for 9, while transitioning between targets from 300 to 885 yards, which is pretty similar to match distances. Next morning I didn't feel quite as perky, and I should have warmed up with a few shots before the match. I mean really should have warmed up. I shot like shit. Absolute disaster. Couldn't keep my 6.5CM rifle solid from prone, reticle was bouncing all over the place after breaking the shot. Severe inconsistent elevation issues, due to my wonky technique. I need to rethink my rear bag use. The odd thing is that I shot respectably from a tripod and/or sticks -- where I often suck. Ugh.
 
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