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Originally posted by neex:
For those that got one, can you report whether the trigger bar safety can be removed? From the list of features, photos, reviews, etc., this seems to be the only thing I don't like.

You do not want to do that.

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:

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Originally posted by neex:
For those that got one, can you report whether the trigger bar safety can be removed? From the list of features, photos, reviews, etc., this seems to be the only thing I don't like.

You do not want to do that.

To be clear, I meant the Glocky lever on the front face of the trigger (not a drop safety or anything blocking the firing pin). I'm assuming that lever prevents rearward trigger bar movement unless engaged. I universally dislike those. I'd definitely replace it with a regular trigger if an aftermarket option comes available. In the meantime, I'd like to know what I'm getting into, including whether that safety could be removed.

Glock style safeties ARE drop safeties. They should not be removed.

I dont care for them either, but they should be left alone and just live with it. These are not target pistols that you will be throwing thousands of rounds down range with. They are purpose designed light carry pistols.

If you want a range gun with a nice trigger, then buy one.

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
Glock style safeties ARE drop safeties. They should not be removed.

I dont care for them either, but they should be left alone and just live with it. These are not target pistols that you will be throwing thousands of rounds down range with. They are purpose designed light carry pistols.

If you want a range gun with a nice trigger, then buy one.

Agreed. And any aftermarket trigger for the LCP Max will have the safety lever too.

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Originally posted by neex:

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:

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Originally posted by neex:
For those that got one, can you report whether the trigger bar safety can be removed? From the list of features, photos, reviews, etc., this seems to be the only thing I don't like.

You do not want to do that.

To be clear, I meant the Glocky lever on the front face of the trigger (not a drop safety or anything blocking the firing pin). I'm assuming that lever prevents rearward trigger bar movement unless engaged. I universally dislike those. I'd definitely replace it with a regular trigger if an aftermarket option comes available. In the meantime, I'd like to know what I'm getting into, including whether that safety could be removed.

f you dislike triggers w/ tabs/dingus/blades so much, you should wait for the P365 .380. It was supposed launch this past spring (before the LCP Max), so I'm guessing it will be released later this year.

Photo of my Max. I added an old Hogue beavertail, and Galloway Precision take down pin.

This pistol is in the Walther PPK size range, in dimensions, but differs of course in capacity and weight. Add a 12 round mag. And it becomes PPK/S sized

I'm surprised that Hogue grip fit ! Is that a standard beavertail grip sleeve ? I thought the grip was larger on the Max.

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Originally posted by Genorogers:
I'm surprised that Hogue grip fit ! Is that a standard beavertail grip sleeve ? I thought the grip was larger on the Max.

It's from a Walther PPS M1 size.

Perfect fit...looks great !

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
Photo of my Max. I added an old Hogue beavertail, and Galloway Precision take down pin.

Hmmm… do we have a solution looking for a problem?

From Galloway Precision Website.
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“The standard LCP® MAX takedown pin has been known to walk out and shearing the head off.”

The pistols only been out for a week.
Has the take down pin been a problem with previous LCP’s?
I find it hard to believe that this is an issue with the LCP Max within a week of it’s initial release.

Purchased two LCP’s when they first came out and really like them for quick and easy pocket carry.
Have not shot them much, they just ride around easily in the pocket and do that nicely.
Every time I have pulled the trigger they have gone bang with no issues.

Saw a LCP Max at the gun show today for a great price, so it came home with me.
Ordered three of the 12 round magazines and believe this will be a great gun for pocket carry.
The little extra girth in the grip makes it feel much better than the original LCP.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
Photo of my Max. I added an old Hogue beavertail, and Galloway Precision take down pin.

Hmmm… do we have a solution looking for a problem?

From Galloway Precision Website.
Link
“The standard LCP® MAX takedown pin has been known to walk out and shearing the head off.”

The pistols only been out for a week.
Has the take down pin been a problem with previous LCP’s?
I find it hard to believe that this is an issue with the LCP Max within a week of it’s initial release.

No, not a problem. I have a LCP II the Galloway Takedown pin was installed in. I simply switched pins, as the Galloway is easier to remove.

I got the Talon Grip I ordered today, and going to switch the Hogue for the Talon.

I found a box of 380 FMJ today, so I am going to finally shoot the thing tomorrow, and start breaking it in.

One thing I like about the Galloway Takedown pin, is it's locked in and can't walk out.

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We got a batch of these Maxes in, five or six in number I believe. I've toyed around with the display model and one of the backstock guns that I had reserved for one of our regulars. Honestly after brief handling of both of them, if it were me in the market I would more than likely wait for version 2.0.

The LCP II's slide locks back on an empty mag. The II that's in the displace case next to the Max does that, no problem. Of the two Maxes I tried, one simply refuses to have the slide lock back on an empty mag no matter how hard we tried. The other (the backstock one) initially would not lock back on an empty as well, but after about a couple of dozen or so racks of the slide, it magically(?) started locking back on its empty mag as one would normally expect. But I didn't think to swap mags between guns (only one mag from the factory) to see if this is a mag-created condition. Oh well, there's always tomorrow to try. Also tomorrow I think I'll also sample another out of backstock to see if this is an endemic thing, or just an unfortunate random pick of two consecutive examples.

A dry fire trigger pull sounds dreadfully AWFUL. Toy play gun awful. Cheap plastic resonance awful. That may not reflect at all how the gun actually shoots, but it certainly doesn't go any way in inspiring a lot of confidence in the design. Mechanically the original LCP II and LCP sound worlds better. However the physical action itself wasn't disagreeable. Smooth takeup, well defined break. Longish reset with a little false feedback before actual trigger reset, but not much takeup after the reset before the trigger breaks for the follow-up. Very much like the LCP II. Good thing that the live fire report of a .380 will mask that awful, tinny mechanical 'TWONK' of the hammer dropping. I do want to do a little live fire with one of these, but I'm already guessing that the experience won't be too much different than how it is with the LCP II.

I admit that I do like the sights; it's much like the Hellcat's sights, only without the white 'U' outline on the rear channel. A couple of customers complained about the smallish control surface of the slide stop, but I didn't experience any real problems dropping the slide with it. Then I also have small fingers and thumbs. I dislike Ruger's tendency to supply only one mag with so many of their small CCW pistols; the LCP MAX unfortunately follows this habit. Who knows when we'll see additional mags available; Lipsey's didn't ship any with these guns because there were none available for us to order.

Overall the gun didn't leave me with a positive impression. Handling side-by-side against the original LCP II makes the case for someone to buy the original, I think. The LCP II feels a bit more solid, and it DOESN'T make that silly cheap 'TWONK' sound that just invites a grimace from almost every customer who tries the trigger. The Max's slight added girth felt better in-hand that the grip of the prior single-stack, though Ruger didn't improve the grip texture at all from the II. If anything it felt slightly worse. To me and my initial impressions, the Max needs to go back to finishing school before earning its diploma.

We had storms again today, so that delayed me again from shooting my Max.

I ordered 2 12 round magazines from Grabagun.

Last, hand cycling the slide on my Max, it will lock back on an empty mag.

However, with 10 rounds in the mag, I cannot cycle the slide to chamber a round. Reduce the mag to 9 rounds, and the slide can be retracted to chamber.

The trigger is what it is. Not a problem with me.

Picked one up this morning. $380 Out the door.

I really dig the sights compared to my LCPII. Hope to have a range report tomorrow. I have 3 or 4 types of FMJ's and some Hollow points to run through it.

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Originally posted by sigarms229:
Picked one up this morning. $380 Out the door.

I really dig the sights compared to my LCPII. Hope to have a range report tomorrow. I have 3 or 4 types of FMJ's and some Hollow points to run through it.

Good on you. Can you retract the slide with 10 rounds in the magazine ? I can't.

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Can you retract the slide with 10 rounds in the magazine ? I can't.

Yes, I can.

Range report as follows (sorry no pics). 170rds fired, zero malfunctions, ammo used was Fiocchi FMJ, American Eagle FMJ and Aguila FMJs. I also ran 20 Fiocchi XTP hollowpoints.

Wasn't impressed with it's groupings. At 7 yards it shot 3" low and 2" left and would not produce a tight group. In comparison my LCPII shoots dead on and produces tight groups. I did try several different holds and even had a friend shoot it, same results.

I will wait for another range day before I pass further judgement on the pistol.

Picked mine up today and ordered 2 12 rd mags. I carry my lcp2 quite a bit. I have others but with everyday crime punching up in my area I want something with few rounds. Love my lcp2 an shoot it well. But after handling lcp max. no contest this is my front pocket ccw now. Modern 380 has improved greatly over past 20 years. Do I feel better with my CZ compact or 43x well yes I do but not always possible to carry these everywhere

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Originally posted by monoblok:


A dry fire trigger pull sounds dreadfully AWFUL. Toy play gun awful. Cheap plastic resonance awful. That may not reflect at all how the gun actually shoots, but it certainly doesn't go any way in inspiring a lot of confidence in the design.

If this is the same design copied from the P3AT with a pre-cocked lightweight hammer that hits the firing pin with a high velocity, dry-firing it like that is going to break your firing pin in no time flat.


So Ruger copied the Keltec P3AT for the LCP and now it appears they copied the PF9 for the LCP Max but kept it as a .380

Okaaaaay

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Took mine out shooting for the first time today after pulling it apart and lubing it with Ballistol.
Maybe Sunset_VA, has the right idea with the Galloway Precision take down pin.
The take down pin has a very thin head on it.

First I used the 12 round magazines with no issues, the gun shot great.

With the 10 round magazine full pulling the slide back and letting it slam home, it did not fully seat the first round.
Just a little tap on the back of the slide, seated the round and all good from there.

My initial impression is that this is a great little gun with 12 round magazines.
The 10 round magazine did not seem to work as well as the 12.

Don’t believe I would ever want to use the 10 round magazine so, essentially a non-issue for me.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Took mine out shooting for the first time today after pulling it apart and lubing it with Ballistol.
Maybe Sunset_VA, has the right idea with the Galloway Precision take down pin.
The take down pin has a very thin head on it.

First I used the 12 round magazines with no issues, the gun shot great.

With the 10 round magazine full pulling the slide back and letting it slam home, it did not fully seat the first round.
Just a little tap on the back of the slide, seated the round and all good from there.

My initial impression is that this is a great little gun with 12 round magazines.
The 10 round magazine did not seem to work as well as the 12.

Don’t believe I would ever want to use the 10 round magazine so, essentially a non-issue for me.

Grabagun is dragging sending my 2 , 12 round magazines to me. I want to have them when I shoot my Max. As, I wrote, it's impossible for me to retract the slide on a fully loaded 10 round mag to chamber a round. And I don't think I'm that weak !

The Galloway Takedown pin is inexpensive.