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Originally posted by LimaCharlie:
Grip angle, grip size, plastic gun, ugly, not made in America, etc. are just very lame excuses. I would be ashamed of myself if I could not pick up any handgun, rifle, shotgun, or machine gun and not figure out how to load and shoot it well enough to qualify on a military course at marksman level with full power loads.

I do not include competition shooting events where they shoot low power ammunition or even wax bullets to increase their times and scores. Run the competition with full power handgun, rifle, and shotgun ammo if you want to impress me with your score.

Get over yourself! Guns are just tools for defense, offense, or hunting game. If it is reliable, it is good. If it is unreliable, it is bad. If there is ever a SHTF or zombie event, there will likely be tons of guns and ammo lying around from people who were unprepared to use them effectively under duress.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
True, but...

If you're buying a gun for yourself, you're going to buy what works best for you. If a gun has some little peculiarities you don't like, you're not going to buy it. The glock design falls into that category for a lot of people.

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Originally posted by LimaCharlie:
Grip angle, grip size, plastic gun, ugly, not made in America, etc. are just very lame excuses. I would be ashamed of myself if I could not pick up any handgun, rifle, shotgun, or machine gun and not figure out how to load and shoot it well enough to qualify on a military course at marksman level with full power loads.

I do not include competition shooting events where they shoot low power ammunition or even wax bullets to increase their times and scores. Run the competition with full power handgun, rifle, and shotgun ammo if you want to impress me with your score.

Get over yourself! Guns are just tools for defense, offense, or hunting game. If it is reliable, it is good. If it is unreliable, it is bad. If there is ever a SHTF or zombie event, there will likely be tons of guns and ammo lying around from people who were unprepared to use them effectively under duress.

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Originally posted by JBP55:

A great pistol, I now have 37,000 flawless rounds through my Gen 4 G17.

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Originally posted by LimaCharlie:
Guns are like sex. They are all good. Some are better than others. You never have enough. You always want something different. Some people are even in to three gun competitions. Some people get a black gun and never go back.

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
Are there still non-believers?

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Are there still non-believers?