Thanks, 1lowlife, ordered just now, should be here Monday. Menards is just $3.35 or so, but I won't be able to get there until the end of the week, so I'm getting it.

Para's tease reminds me of JD Vance's Grandmother who kept 19 pistols around the house so she could always be near one, just-in-case!

$8 for a Glock takedown tool is a ripoff.

Go to a pawn shop that has loose tool bins. Find a narrow driver w/ a shaft that's 3/32" or less, such as a: 3/32" slotted/flathead, Phillips/P000, 3/32" Allen, 2.5mm Allen. Cut or grind the tip off. On a flat Allen, you don't even need to do that. Use it as is.

You should be able to find one of those for $1 or under. An L-shape Allen key will also work but is less comfortable to hold. A pawn shop might charge 25 cents for one.

The Glock front sight tool is not as much of a ripoff considering how narrow the driver's walls need to be to access the front sight. In this case, I recommend the Wiha (26547) 3/16" nut driver.

I have loved them all; well, many of them.

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Originally posted by iron chef:
Go to a pawn shop that has loose tool bins. Find a narrow driver w/ a shaft that's 3/32" or less, such as a: 3/32" slotted/flathead, Phillips/P000, 3/32" Allen, 2.5mm Allen. Cut or grind the tip off. On a flat Allen, you don't even need to do that. Use it as is.

Option 1: Drive to a pawn shop and look for something they probably have, but might not, then grind it, cut it off, shape it, whatever, and end up with something that probably will work.

Option 2: Buy a punch at Menards because you're going there anyway.

Option 3: Click on the Glock Tool link in this thread, order the tool, take a nap.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by 1lowlife:
I used to have 3 or 4 of these laying around the house.

Just in case the need arises to suddenly break down a Glock

You never know..

1 on the garage workbench
1 in my office desk
1 in each my range bags
1 to give someone if they need it

Damn, I'm out of Q-tips..

My point is that nearly everyone of us has something around the house that can be used as a Glock tool, and they're simple to make. Every one of those micro drivers in 1lowlife's photo above can be used as a punch/takedown tool, even w/o grinding the tip flat.

For a dollar or two more you can get a disassembly kit with the punch tool, mag. base removal tools and front sight tool. It's amazing at how many times you will use them.

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Originally posted by iron chef:
My point is that nearly everyone of us has something around the house that can be used as a Glock tool, and they're simple to make. Every one of those micro drivers in 1lowlife's photo above can be used as a punch/takedown tool, even w/o grinding the tip flat.

And marr the pin end?
How dare you?
Surely EVERYONE would notice the flat blade scratch on the end of the pin.

Just kidding, one can use whatever one wants.

I use the Glock tool on more than just Glocks.
Some of them need a tap with a hammer to pop out.
I'd rather not take a hammer to my micro screwdrivers.

Back in the day, Glock tools were about $3 a piece.
In my Glock heyday, gun shows would give them out for free.
I'm big on having the right tool for the job.......YMMV

Punch - pretty much anything
Front sight tool - probably want the Glock specific tool
Mag disassembly - No more then 6oz of C4. . Seriously though the mag disassembly tool is damn near a must.

I got the mag disassembly tool as well as the magazine base squeezy-thingy last year. I tried the brute-force-only tool but read here about possible damage to the tabs that hold the base plate in place, so bought the squeezer.

The front-sight tool comes with most of the rear-sight kits I've seen, but I can't decide which of the cheapo-kits I'm willing to risk using on my Glocks.

Recommendations would be appreciated, there are several on Amazon in the $30 range, last time I looked.

"When I was a lad..." I could completely disassemble my Colt Mk 4 Series 70 .45ACP without tools, except for the grip screws. The base pin for the mainspring housing I popped out using the firing pin, which I could also use to disassemble the magazines for cleaning.

My Kimber Pro Carry needed a special tool to field strip, believe it or not, a tiny wire-thin thing which could easily be misplaced, and not something one would pack like a cleaning kit. I contacted Kimber for a solution, and they sent me half-a-dozen spares, not exactly the solution I was looking for. I retired it.

I’ve been shooting the 48 a lot in the last six months. Recently, I replaced it with a 43x.

I have to say a couple years ago I was wrong on the 43x being extremely shootable. I worked a plain clothes gig a few weeks back. For the first two days I carried a 43x. The last two days I went back to a 19 because I felt undergunned. Range time since has proved to me the value of the 43x and 48.

Plus when I go back to shooting a 17 it’s almost like cheating.

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I have to say a couple years ago I was wrong on the 43x being extremely shootable. I worked a plain clothes gig a few weeks back. For the first two days I carried a 43x. The last two days I went back to a 19 because I felt undergunned. Range time since has proved to me the value of the 43x and 48.

I’m confused as to what you are saying.
-You were wrong about the 43x being shootable (so your saying you don’t find it all that shootable)
-Range time has since proved the value of the 43x/48 (so they ARE shootable/viable to you???)


I get wanting to go with a G19 and the G17 being a pussycat especially in comparison but I am not tracking what you are saying about the 43x/48.

I still find the 48 to be a very shootable platform. (I mean for me, I’m just an idjit on the net lucky to get the loud pointy flashy end pointed in the right direction )

So has anyone bought and/or shot a COA Glock yet? I've been trying to bring some in to the shop but all of the distributors that we have accounts with have constantly been out of stock and as I've been told by their reps have been getting relatively few of the Iron Curtain versions vs the free states guns. Even with the 43X where it doesn't make a difference from a capacity standpoint, those aren't any easier to find.

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Originally posted by monoblok:
So has anyone bought and/or shot a COA Glock yet? I've been trying to bring some in to the shop but all of the distributors that we have accounts with have constantly been out of stock and as I've been told by their reps have been getting relatively few of the Iron Curtain versions vs the free states guns. Even with the 43X where it doesn't make a difference from a capacity standpoint, those aren't any easier to find.

I’ve seen two in the wild. Dude showed up at on Outlaw shooting match I was running about 3 weeks ago. I think it was a G45. A friend bought an G45 about 10 days age. Shot 100 rounds through it and no surprises or disappointments. It ran like a Glock with a typical dot.

I have a COA/A Cut question. If one’s optic is down/off the pistol or one decides for some reason or another not to run an optic is there any kind of “plate/cover” that gives you any kind of irons? I know the locking plate gives you rudimentary backups.

I realize these are designed to be optics guns but there are reasons the optic could go down and need to come off the gun and if this is one’s only gun (crazy talk I know ) is the gun effectively rendered useless?

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Originally posted by cslinger:
I have a COA/A Cut question. If one’s optic is down/off the pistol or one decides for some reason or another not to run an optic is there any kind of “plate/cover” that gives you any kind of irons? I know the locking plate gives you rudimentary backups.

I realize these are designed to be optics guns but there are reasons the optic could go down and need to come off the gun and if this is one’s only gun (crazy talk I know ) is the gun effectively rendered useless?

I've seem cover plates for the Glock MOS, but not the COA.
I'd guess depending on the success of the pistol, someone would eventually make them.

Sig makes one for the P365 X/XL.

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Originally posted by jljones:
I’ve been shooting the 48 a lot in the last six months. Recently, I replaced it with a 43x.

I have to say a couple years ago I was wrong on the 43x being extremely shootable. I worked a plain clothes gig a few weeks back. For the first two days I carried a 43x. The last two days I went back to a 19 because I felt undergunned. Range time since has proved to me the value of the 43x and 48.

Plus when I go back to shooting a 17 it’s almost like cheating.

Normally, people don't shoot a lot of rounds at one time through these small/slimline pistols. My son was helping evaluate the G43x and G48 for his department. He was sometimes shooting several hundred rounds through these pistols. He noticed the 43x really beat his hands up with extended range sessions. More so than the G48. His final conclusion was even though the G48 was softer shooting, for the intended purpose of the pistol, the actual performance difference between the G48 and G43x was marginal. When going smaller than a G19, he prefers the G43x for the slightly smaller footprint.

Well, I didn't put a ton of rounds through it, but the Gen 5 17 functioned flawlessly. No surprises there. Having done almost all my shooting on the Glock platform in 19 length slides, it was noticeably smoother shooting to me. I did some A/B comparing with the G45 and the G45 cycles faster and seems to come out of recoil faster. I'm not telling anyone anything new and revolutionary with this, just making observations. It may be that I clean out the random assortment of other older Glocks and pick up a Gen 5 34... and maybe a 17L.

Now to decide which one to get cut for an optic... and which optic to mount on it. Leaning towards an Eotech EFLX. I think I'm done with Holosuns, and I don't quite want to spend the money on an Acro or RMR2, but I still want to know that an American optics company is backing me if something goes wrong with it. My friend's EFLX is damn impressive under NV. Super clear. It's nothing fancy, but it should do exactly what I want it to. NV shooting and USPSA matches will be the application. Whichever one I don't get cut will be the carry gun. (This is where someone chimes in and says "you're going to get both of them done eventually anyways, so it doesn't really matter. )

Oh, and I found myself having a much easier time with the factory Glock sights than the Ameriglo Agents that I have on my G45. I think I need to drift the rear just a hair, but also, they seem to be "cover the target" type, and I don't prefer that. Once I make a decision on this red dot stuff, I'm going to rethink this iron sight business. The Agents are coming off that gun one way or another. I managed to hit a man-sized steel silhouette out past 100 yards with the G17. I struggled with hitting a 12x20 steel around 50ish with the G45 and it's mostly because I'm unsure of where to aim because I'm not sure where my damned rounds are hitting with those sights.

I really want to try a Glock Performance Trigger soon. Probably in whichever one I end up sticking a red dot on, but eventually both if everything I'm reading and seeing about them is to be believed.

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Originally posted by cslinger:



I get wanting to go with a G19 and the G17 being a pussycat especially in comparison but I am not tracking what you are saying about the 43x/48.

Sorry.

Early on, lots of my guys were packing/shooting the 43x as an off duty/BUG. I shot them some and dismissed them as not being all that shootable. I was wrong.

As a matter of fact, I’ve started trying to push my full sized times on various drills with the 43x. As an example, my “Four Aces” time for four Alpha is in the neighborhood of 2.5 seconds. My G17 times are faster of course. I’ve been shooting 20, 30, and 40 yards regularly with little loss of time or accuracy.

Thank you sir for the clarification.