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Rule #1: Use enough gun |
My full size 45 mags (10 rds) are made in Italy. One is them is particularly tough to get the final round into. I hope it "loosens up" over time. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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Bought a 320 Full size 9mm. Now, just bought a 320 Subcompact kit plus a compact grip. This may become a problem  Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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Welcome to the club brother. | |||
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The mag issue is...an issue. My 17-rd are very tough to get 17 in to. I carry 16. BUT...I have a few 21 shot mags and they take 20 no problem. LOL... I carry 9 in my .45 {P250 but same mags}. 10 is just too much and I can't help but think that forcing that last round in and leaving it there is not doing the mag any good.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 3/4Flap, ********************** 53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Read Quod Apostolici Muneris (1878) LEO XIII. This Pope warned us about the Socialists before most folks knew what a Socialist was... | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Both of mine are tough. One, perhaps, more so than the other. I finally broke down and have a Maglula UpLULA OTW. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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On tough last round mag issues. First, load them full up and leave them for a couple of weeks. Every one I have (Glock, P320) has has loosened up after. If not, I'd do it again for another week or two and see what happens. Second, if issue persists, you may want to load down one. For carry, Larry Vickers recommends this as a matter of practice on Glock mags. Both the mag in the pistol and spare mags. Or, obviously, load full up shoot and repeat. Might change...might not. Can't recall details, but there are some pistols out there that have the problem permanently due to design. ______________________ An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Nicholas Murray Butler | |||
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Or just shoot A LOT with those stiffly sprung mags in question. After a spell they'll load completely up, even without an Uplula to provide aid. | |||
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Both my factory 15rd mags have been a little tight on the last round, but seem to be breaking in. UpLULA makes it easier to get the 15th in. It piles the brass with both, so I don't see it as a problem. | |||
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Perhaps I should have clarified. IIRC, Vickers recommends the practice to ensure full seating of the mag in a high stress gunfight scenario. With slide forward, a tight fully loaded mag may fail to properly seat. Some adopt the practice regardless of mag issues, just as insurance. Obviously, it is not an issue from slide lock. As you mention, the mag issues discussed tend to disappear by just shooting the dang thing or leaving them fully loaded over time. I've never had a Glock (22 mags) or P320 (18 mags) mag fail to eventually loosen up. ______________________ An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Nicholas Murray Butler | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
I can't say that I've ever had a fully loaded factory Glock mag that was inordinately hard to seat with a closed slide, even when new. Perhaps it's more of an issue with competition-style modified magazines, using stronger power springs and/or extra capacity baseplates. (I have, however, run into that with USGI AR magazines, and have to download them to 27 or 28 rounds in order for them to seat on a closed bolt. But that's a well-known issue.) | |||
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I have also noticed that I have to put a fully-loaded mag home With Authority on my P320. At first I was "Hmmm...", but, on reflection, my Glocks, with fully-loaded mags, are the same way. I just got into the habit, with the smaller, single-stack mags, of not having to do that. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Maybe I'm just already in the habit of seating all mags with authority.  | |||
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Likewise. However, I've never tested the technique with somebody shooting at me while crapping my pants. ______________________ An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Nicholas Murray Butler | |||
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I used to be, but, somewhere along the line I got out of the habit. Obviously something that needs to be addressed. I'll just get in the habit of always loading all mags all the way, all the time, even when I'm just doing 5-shot strings. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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I always load my new mags down a round or two , they will break in good to go . | |||
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the 320 is a sickness i love them. | |||
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| Back in Black |
I fear I may need to try one. | |||
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Get in the van! We have candy! NXGen Tactical CZ P-09 MHS Trials #79 | P320RX-TSS | P320SCR | VP9 LE | |||
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The 320RX is calling my name. Sometime this year I think I'll jump on the pistol + optic bandwagon. Train how you intend to Fight Remember - Training is not sparring. Sparring is not fighting. Fighting is not combat. | |||
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