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Originally posted by xwesler:

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Originally posted by 12131:
xwesler: your all German made and proofed 2011 P228R.

Yessir.

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Originally posted by wgsigs:

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Originally posted by rpm2010:
That pretty much covers it 12131!....the only one I don't see in the bunch and it may not qualify because it wasn't regular a production gun, almost impossible to locate these days, would be the M11's (no rail) that actually came in as CPO's years back (according to SIG lore), with the M11 visible (not blurred out). I've seen pictures of them in the past, GUNS AMERICA. I hope it's not another ghost gun.





I actually hate to mention this also but I have a M11B that I got directly from SIG Academy the slide is not proofed and has no S/N, but is marked made in Germany, the barrel have the matching S/N with the frame. The other M11B (Sig Academy) I have has the proof mark, DE, and S/N on the slide and frame, but no S/N on the barrel, so not Triple S/N. I only mention this as there may be a few other M11B owners who have these as well, with only so few of them out there it's hard to understand why the variations exist, I can only theorize that they must have run out of the German proofed slides at some point.

Yeah why me right? Basically, what I've described may be considered anomalies, may be best to just footnote these.

12131, I know you want to be thorough with anything you put out, that's the only reason I mentioned the above guns.

That is an interesting M11 that you posted. I wonder how it "escaped" as I've always heard that current guns with military markings could not be sold commercially. Do the "M11" and "U.S." markings look correct (size and font)? The slide is interesting, too, as there is no "Made in Germany" and the font of the P228 looks different to me. I can't make out the first number of the serial number to get an approximate age. Did this gun sell for $2,800? I heard of a CPO P228 sell for almost $3,000 (maybe it was on Gunbroker and not Guns America) possibly because the buyer thought is was a real M11.

rpm2010, are you saying your second M11B has a proof mark and the "DE", or are you calling the "DE" a proof mark (because it isn't)? If it is the latter, then both of your Sig Academy M11Bs are interesting because I thought all of the M11Bs were assembled in Germany and had German proof marks. I guess I was mistaken.

It is my understanding that a complete assembled gun is proofed, so running out of proofed slides makes no sense to me. The lack of proof marks makes me think these M11Bs were either assembled in the U.S., or are CPOs. Were they sold to you as new guns?

I apologize for the digression, but sometimes I get caught up in the historical minutiae (trivia?) of SIG pistols.

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Originally posted by rpm2010:

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Originally posted by wgsigs:

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Originally posted by rpm2010:


I actually hate to mention this also but I have a M11B that I got directly from SIG Academy the slide is not proofed and has no S/N, but is marked made in Germany, the barrel have the matching S/N with the frame. The other M11B (Sig Academy) I have has the proof mark, DE, and S/N on the slide and frame, but no S/N on the barrel, so not Triple S/N. I only mention this as there may be a few other M11B owners who have these as well, with only so few of them out there it's hard to understand why the variations exist, I can only theorize that they must have run out of the German proofed slides at some point.

Yeah why me right? Basically, what I've described may be considered anomalies, may be best to just footnote these.

12131, I know you want to be thorough with anything you put out, that's the only reason I mentioned the above guns.

rpm2010, are you saying your second M11B has a proof mark and the "DE", or are you calling the "DE" a proof mark (because it isn't)? If it is the latter, then both of your Sig Academy M11Bs are interesting because I thought all of the M11Bs were assembled in Germany and had German proof marks. I guess I was mistaken.

It is my understanding that a complete assembled gun is proofed, so running out of proofed slides makes no sense to me. The lack of proof marks makes me think these M11Bs were either assembled in the U.S., or are CPOs. Were they sold to you as new guns?

I apologize for the digression, but sometimes I get caught up in the historical minutiae (trivia?) of SIG pistols.

wgsigs,

It's not like I changed the slide on the gun, this is the way it came in from the Sig Academy. It has the special K Cote finish and the MP (magnetic particle) testing etching. And it's not only on one, I had two of these, but sold one, both same as what you see in the pic. I'll try and get a pic of the other one.

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Originally posted by xwesler:

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Originally posted by 12131:
xwesler: your all German made and proofed 2011 P228R.

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Originally posted by cherokee2u:
Great post. Much information that is greatly appreciated.

And no you can not have my KA Nickel

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
The 228 was featured at least once as Sig's Gun-of-the-Month (GOTM).
The April 2004 GOTM model I have has Hi-Viz sights.

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Originally posted by rpm2010:
Okay, here's the other M11B, oddly S/N on the Frame & Slide, but not on the barrel (the barrel is stamped "DE"), I have seen some with the triple S/N as well.
Excellent thread 12131, please accept my apologies if I muddied it up a bit, but I think the M11B is now well represented, along with all the other awesome 228's you have presented.