So I have been seeing some references for a replacement take down lever for the 320 (and other guns, too) that is being called a "gas pedal". It serves as a grip enhancement tool which uses an "oppositional grip". I know these are in use on competition pistols but there seems to be a growing use on carry guns now. I already know that they are not holster friendly so thats a big drawback.
Anyone using a gas pedal?
What about it changes grip technique? If it does?
Has it increased your accuracy?

Unnecessary, as far as I'm concerned.

Take a look at the Armory Craft Sport Lever; it’s a much lower profile but still gives a nice thumb rest. Fits most holsters too.

Never felt the need & feel they look lame.

I put one on my Limited gun some years back. Three stages into the first match I took it off. Not for me.

I sure as hell wouldn't want one on a "real gun". (non target/match use)

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Originally posted by LMLarsen:
Take a look at the Armory Craft Sport Lever; it’s a much lower profile but still gives a nice thumb rest. Fits most holsters too.

Agreed. I have them on all my 320s and are, in my opinion, a worthy upgrade. Nice thumb rest but not too big. Well made product.

To be more specific, I have been looking at the one Sig offers on their website for 52 bucks. It is not quite as large or pronounced as some I have seen on raceguns. Sig even claims it is more or less holsterable. The Armory Craft model is smaller still.

No need

Where are you in your skills today and where do you want to be? The odds are that for most people, spending more time on improving your existing grip (strength AND technique) will yield better results that are transferable to other guns. For the minority that remains, maybe there is some gain there. Gas pedal type devices have been in wide use in competition for a long time.

It's also worth considering whether your holsters will accommodate such a device.

It's a competition race gun part for a high grip with both thumbs touching. It apparently helps the top 10% of shooters get the front sight back down sooner for faster repeat shots on the clock.

High grips cause issues with slide function having the thumbs near the slide lock. Nothing more than a stage or target on a range, a malfunction in self defense is something else.

Competition parts aren't going to fail to help if the investment in extensive practice at the range goes along with it - at that level it's 6-10K rounds a year before matches. On the street the cool gear can cause issues that were unforeseen or undesirable.

For shooters in the top few percentile range of shooting skill, it might help them eek an extra few tenths of a second off follow-on shots.

For everyone else, it'd just be introducing another route for undesired grip input, which is a major factor in accuracy issues with many shooters.

I'd say its more for speed than accuracy. With that said I dont like them and dont consider it useful unless its a racegun and you need that extra incredibly minute quartersecond. Real world application, I think the holstering issue is the big thing that sticks out but more importantly the effect on you changing your grip and how you put pressure on the gun is an issue. I would also think that anything small enough to be holstered would also be too small to use as a lever and ledge especially while shooting at speed.

Yeah, the "it will fit your holster after you modify it" thing is a major drawback. Most seem overpriced, too. After due consideration and after all of your input, I will pass on it.
Thanks for the feedback!
I have a 320F thats a range gun mainly, so I might put the Armory Craft one on later. Maybe.

For me it would be a nice "memory spot" to help make a consistent grip. That's about it.

Years ago i put a oversized magazine release,take down,and slide release on a Glock 21,soon after i questioned the practicality, they all seemed to stick out too far. For everyday carry i want everything relatively snagfree.

If you're rocking a 2011 in competition and trying to keep your thumb off the slide, yes.

On anything else (especially carry guns), no.

Some of these older posts have misinformation. There is only one "Gas Pedal" brand as it is registered trademark. The P320 and P365 are primarily for self defense as it makes more efficient grip much easier. Police officers and SWAT teams use them.True the Gas Pedal brand, in racing models, has dominated USPSA competition, but the P320 is primarily for self defense. BTW it does not inhibit slide movement, there is high Wing that makes higher grip possible and prevents thumb from touching slide.

I got rid of mine (2). It was the authentic gas pedal for the guy above, lol. It looked stupid. It did do roughly what they claim it does. I am nowhere near good enough to accept the trade offs though.

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Originally posted by 320fan:
Some of these older posts have misinformation.

Not the best approach, especially on your first post.

You may want to identify yourself for the benefit of the members.

Not for me