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I’ll repeat the question: Who was the reviewer? Link? I don’t intend to get a P322 myself, but simple curiosity has me looking at YouTube reviews and I have found none that literally didn’t rave about the gun. The only caution I’ve seen is that the rimmed 22 LR cartridges must be loaded into the magazines so that they stack in nose angled up and the way to ensure that is to not pull the follower down and just drop the rounds in. If I were interested in the pistol I believe I could deal with that requirement. ► 6.4/93.6 ___________ “We are Americans …. Together we have resisted the trap of appeasement, cynicism, and isolation that gives temptation to tyrants.” — George H. W. Bush | |||
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This is going to work out nicely, I have a .22 suppressor on the way and I don't have a host! I am not in a rush, if the initial reports show it is reliable I will pick up a P322. I have a few SIGs. | |||
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I had searched/watched every YouTube video on the 322. The only one to mention jamming was while using 30 gr. ammo. It did fine with 36/40 gr. | |||
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One reviewer had issues with Winchester 333 bulk pack and then went on to say it did not run well in his other 22 pistols either. Last time I was at the range I shot some Winchester Wildcat 22 ammo and it gave me a problem in both my 22 pistols - the M&P 22 Compact and the Browning Buckmark which so far have eaten any and all other 22LR ammo I tried. The problem was failed to fire in each pistol even after multiple attempts 2-3 rounds per magazine. The Wilcats were accurate but maybe that batch was unusually bad with priming. The Winchester Bulk 333 run good in my M&P 22 Compact and the Buckmark but my preferred 22 LR ammo is CCI, Federal, and Aguila. I don'y buy any 22 LR ammo other than 40 grain and 36 grain which is about 95 percent of the avalable 22 LR I ever see. Most other loads seem to be specialized and can be hit or miss in a particular pistol. I believe CCI makes a 38 grain Blazer round though which propbably would run fine too. It seems a lot of people have problems with 22 pistol magazines that are not single stack which might be why other rimfire pistol manufacturers avoid them including Ruger, Browning, and Smith and Wesson. One has to pay more attention to loading these higher capacity 22LR magazines properly or they will definitely have problems with them. Here is a picture of two magazines from a SIG P322 and the one on the left is improperly loaded while the one on the right is properly loaded. I also wonder if reviwere are properly cleaning and lubing their new 22 LR pistols too. I read on another forum where a user was having problems with his new Glock 44 and someone asked if he had lubed it. He did not and he reported back that after he did the malfunctions went away.  https://www.gunsamerica.com/di...ypes-of-ammo-review/  | |||
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The magazine “issue” isn’t an issue at all. All rimfire mags can be wonky if you pull the spring to the bottom and dump in rounds. They have rims for goodness sake. Whenever I hear someone talk about this “issue” I feel like boxing their ears. Don’t pull the follower all the way down and dump rimmed cartridges into a mag. It will give you issues. I saw that reviewer and the 30 grain problems. Funny thing is I’ve never even seen 30 grain ammo that wasn’t a Stinger or something like that. I disregarded the entire portion of his review every time he said 30 grain ammo. Even Stingers are like 32 grains I think. | |||
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Research can be your friend... Aguila supermaximum is 30gr. Federal punch is 29gr. YouTube videos show CCi stingers working just fine. | |||
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Well no shit, reading can be your friend. I didn’t say it doesn’t exist I said and I stand by this, I’ve never seen 30 grain 22 loadings ever. Aguila has never been something that is stocked anywhere I shop. I’ve only bought it in bulk and my experience was awful and it wasn’t 30 grains. Which is an odd load. It’s a Stinger like load. My point was and still is, 30 grain 22lr is an oddball loading. If you ever decide to get into the 22 review business I will give you a free tip. Don’t use 30 grain rounds as your go to ammo. Nobody is shooting that in large quantities. 36-40 grain round nose and HP. That is 98% of all ammo thrown downrange. (made up stat but probably closer than I think) I also would put Stingers in that category. Stingers are a 32 grain very purposed round that most people don’t choose for plinking. It’s got an odd case length, it’s expensive, some manufacturers say don’t shoot lots of it, not all guns like it. Shoot ammo that most people are likely to shoot. That reviewer, I think it was TFB, shot 2 loads. One worked fine and one was a load nobody would go out of their way to find, let alone shoot. All the choices of rimfire in the world and he chooses one that accounts for a tiny fraction of the shooting world? I’ve shot 22 all my life I’ve never even heard of Federal Punch. What the fuck is that? And yea, don’t use that as the basis of your review either. Nobody gives a shit it a gun won’t eat Federal Punch. Do use Winchester Whazingo either. Lol. Hell, he should have tried that shitty Wildcat bulk back, I bet most of us have some of that squirreled away. 30 grain Aguila Supermax, fuck my life. Reviews should use common use ammo that actually is shot by the hundreds of millions. That is 36 to 40 grain rounds. Maybe throw in CCI Quiet if you want to get jiggy, but we all know that won’t cycle either. | |||
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Ok, you did say 'portion' and not the complete review (my mistake). He even admitted it was an unusual round and that the pistol was engineered around common 40gr ammo. He was being thorough, using several loading and giving an in-depth review. And unless you're referring to a differnet video, this guy tried 18 different types of 22 loads. https://youtu.be/aB5sOffE3no Federal punch come out around April 2021. Here is a thread on it. https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/5220033184 https://youtu.be/Fl1HUMt5UpM | |||
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I saw that video with the 18 loads, I also saw one where it was basically 2. One of which was the 30 grain loading. I want to say it was James Reeves and he literally would shoot a couple rounds, clear a malfunction, shoot a couple, clear, etc. It was a shitshow. Like I said, I disregarded that entire portion because I will never seek out 30 grain loadings for my plinker. Also why I’m not probably ever buying Punch or Whazinga ammo unless part of their spiel includes a better priming guarantee. If I used a 22 for defense I would worry a hell of a lot less about performance and more about reliable ignition. I will try to find the goofy video I was referring to. Edited. Can’t seem to find the video. As for the mag “issue”, best example to me is the 25 round MP 15-22 mags. If you pull the follower down and just dump rounds into it you turn a wildly reliable mag/gun combo into a single shot. Rims. You have to account for them. It’s not hard and it’s not an issue unless you make it one. | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
IF you shoot enough 22lr you'll have some issues rounds that won't fire, poor ejection, failure to load, One of the big issues early on with the Kel-Tec PMR30 in 22wm was failures or stoppage, when you dial it down, it's all about how you load the mags, as was said, dump in 20 rounds holding down the follower and you'll have issues with the stacking. The instructions say load 5, release follower, tap on the back of the mag, just like you see in the movies. I loaded a mage the wrong way, and one the correct and sure enough jam-o-matic, the correct mag, zero issues. 22LR is the same, the 522 rifle has 30 round mags, and it's been reliable, PM33 I haven't gotten to the range yet and I'm interested to see how the double double stack mags do, or in reality, how I did loading them... | |||
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James Reeves is usually an overly fair reviewer, I have seen some strange ammo he has used but he usually states that it’s odd. I have also seen him post on Sig Forum which I think is really cool for someone who has such a large presence in the firearm community. I think the p322 looks awesome but will wait a bit for market prices to come down. | |||
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