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12131
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Also, Q, just so I’m clear; I can use the coiled pin in the P228 I
Won from you and my 2003 P220?

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Thank you, Q! Do you have a good source for purchasing them?

These 2 famed gunsmiths (Gerry Ritacco of Total Automation and Robert Burke The Sig Armorer) use them in the folded slide SIGs. Gerry is the father of the QTR (Quick Trigger Reset) system. He manufactures small aftermarket parts like the coiled pin and the internal extractor for the folded slide SIGs, but he no longer maintains a website. So, it's best to contact Robert about the coiled pin.


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The slide cocking serrations on the older P229’s were not my favorite. I always liked the P228 (and P226/P220) cocking serrations better. I would take one of the newer P229’s with full length cocking serrations, or a P228. YMMV.


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Have had both W.German 228 in 9mm and a 229 in .40 since the late 90's.

Will never give up either one as they are laser accurate.

Took my CCW class with the 228 and the instructor loved it, ~25 people in the class and mine was the only non striker, non polymer pistol there.

Including the 2 instructors.
 
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Originally posted by BennerP220:
Also, Q, just so I’m clear; I can use the coiled pin in the P228 I
Won from you and my 2003 P220?

quote:
Originally posted by BennerP220:
Thank you, Q! Do you have a good source for purchasing them?

These 2 famed gunsmiths (Gerry Ritacco of Total Automation and Robert Burke The Sig Armorer) use them in the folded slide SIGs. Gerry is the father of the QTR (Quick Trigger Reset) system. He manufactures small aftermarket parts like the coiled pin and the internal extractor for the folded slide SIGs, but he no longer maintains a website. So, it's best to contact Robert about the coiled pin.
 
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I prefer the P228, it just feels better in my hand. I also prefer the full height serrations on the slide, and I am aware that the new 229s have that feature. I still prefer the 228.

But to get the full height serrations on the P229 you have to live with the ugly long external extractor. I know, ugly is in the eye of the beholder. Wink
 
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Stamp slide guns= Two part inner and outer pins

Early short extractor P229/P226 = solid pins

Later short extractor P229/P226 = spiral pins, I referred to these as rolled pins, same thing

The rolled/spiral pins are more durable.

Do you know if the earlier solid pins can be replaced with anything else? Those pins are almost impossible to take out and put a new one in without damaging the slide.
 
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I prefer the P228, it just feels better in my hand. I also prefer the full height serrations on the slide, and I am aware that the new 229s have that feature. I still prefer the 228.

But to get the full height serrations on the P229 you have to live with the ugly long external extractor. I know, ugly is in the eye of the beholder. Wink


I can’t say that I disagree with you on the aesthetics of the new extractor. Another reason why I like the 228.



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Do you know if the earlier solid pins can be replaced with anything else? Those pins are almost impossible to take out and put a new one in without damaging the slide.


I'm curious about this as well. My dept armorer buggered up the slide somewhat on my P229 trying to get that solid pin out for routine inspection/maintenance. He never did get it out. He got it done on all the other guns just fine, so apparently mine is abnormally tight. Now that I own the gun, I've considered trying to remove it, but have held off because the gun still works fine and I don't want to turn a minor problem into a big one. If I ever do remove it, I'd rather not put it back in there if a better option exists.

My biggest concern would be that the coiled pin might be too long for my gun if it's designed for models with full-height serrations. My gun has the half-height serrations, and the slide is tapered above them where the pin goes through, so might it require a shorter pin?
 
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Do you know if the earlier solid pins can be replaced with anything else? Those pins are almost impossible to take out and put a new one in without damaging the slide.


I'm curious about this as well. My dept armorer buggered up the slide somewhat on my P229 trying to get that solid pin out for routine inspection/maintenance. He never did get it out. He got it done on all the other guns just fine, so apparently mine is abnormally tight. Now that I own the gun, I've considered trying to remove it, but have held off because the gun still works fine and I don't want to turn a minor problem into a big one. If I ever do remove it, I'd rather not put it back in there if a better option exists.

My biggest concern would be that the coiled pin might be too long for my gun if it's designed for models with full-height serrations. My gun has the half-height serrations, and the slide is tapered above them where the pin goes through, so might it require a shorter pin?


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The solid pin has two different diameters, the left side has a larger knurled diameter. So your stuck with the solid pin.
To remove a real tight pin you'll have to send it out to a Sig gunsmith. Like Robert , Gerry or Bruce.
 
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The solid pin has two different diameters, the left side has a larger knurled diameter. So your stuck with the solid pin.
To remove a real tight pin you'll have to send it out to a Sig gunsmith. Like Robert , Gerry or Bruce.


Thanks! Not what I wanted to hear, but I appreciate the info!
 
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Originally posted by Leucoandro:
The slide cocking serrations on the older P229’s were not my favorite. I always liked the P228 (and P226/P220) cocking serrations better. I would take one of the newer P229’s with full length cocking serrations, or a P228. YMMV.


Charlie


I know everyone has their preferences, and that is 100% understandable, however I don't quite get the preference of full-height vs half-height cocking serrations... functionally speaking; aesthetics are a different ballgame. I have owned both, and I sweat profusely during the summer months, but I have NEVER had my hand slip when cocking my P229 with what folks call the "legacy" slide.

Buy hey, to each their own, right? That's what makes us individuals! Big Grin


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