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Someone help me out here: what's not clear about "Don't post any of this riot stuff here"? Login/Join 
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You don't ban a member just for posting a thread, unless it's direct, outright defiance after you told them to not do so, an even that situation wouldn't warrant it unless the member had a history of not listening.

I don't know why you're telling me this other stuff, and never do I want to hear from a member that they're posting drunk in my forum. Do yourself a favor and keep that to yourself.

I know when to hand out disciplinary action and I know the degree which is appropriate. You don't take someone out of a virtual community that they love, merely because they've pissed you off. That's cold-hearted, because although it may sound silly, that's hurtful to people if they really care about a place, more than they'll let on. I may be stern and direct but I'm not cold-hearted or cruel.

All I am asking is why I cannot seem to get through to some of you guys. I don't care how "big" the subject is. I reserve the right to turn the volume down or off on subjects I do not wish to see here, and there's really not that many subjects which are disallowed in this place.

The worst part of all this is that I've had to acknowledge the existence of these stupid-ass events, even once, and here I am, having to keep coming back to the Goddamned subject. The only power I have over the situation is to ignore it, but that's out the fucking window now. Do you guys get this? I didn't want one single speck of that shit in this forum. Not one word, one sentence, one photograph, nothing. No vague allusions, zero, but you guys are fucking forcing me to deal with this shit and it is angering me that I am being ignored, all because this is "so big" and that's a bunch of horse shit, boys and girls.

You guys see this?



That's a screenshot from the forum's control panel. Two mouse clicks is all it takes. I'll turn this motherfucker off for the rest of the month if I don't get some cooperation on this and I'll sleep like a newborn baby after doing so. Don't test me.
 
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...never do I want to hear from a memmer that theyr'rfe posting drunk in my...


10 style points for that! Smile

The title of this thread could have just as well been "No means No" and folks would still want to slice it thin or rationalize.

These are indeed stressing times for many, probably some of that in play. (super thin slice!)



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I don’t get it. It’s been made EXCRUCIATINGLY clear what is expected of the membership.

I have my moments, but some of you are really thick. I’d consider it a favor if those in question refrain from getting this place shut down.

I’m certain Para is serious about cratering this place for as long as he sees fit.





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Posts: 3628 | Location: Middle Tennessee  | Registered: March 23, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I don't know why, but it's incredibly childish behavior and I'm sorry you are having to deal with it. It's like telling a student to stay in his seat no matter what and he says "What if there is a fire drill?" I don't think some people ever get out of that mode that there's always an a exception to the rule. I don't believe it's conscious disrespect, but rather a subconscious reaction to being told not to do something and then not being able to stop thinking about the thing they were told not to do. The child told to stay in his seat no matter what, starts thinking, I need to sharpen my pencil, I need to blow my nose, I need to go to the bathroom, etc. An adult can get over it and move on.
 
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Originally posted by parabellum:
I've always felt that, if anything, I've been too tough on you guys about stuff like this.

I don't think so. I haven't always agreed with your directives, but that's neither here nor there. But too tough? Not in my view.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Seems like some of you are just not listening.

Or failing to understand? As in...

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Look at this: https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0053174?r=1120073174

Ok, that points to the first post on the second page of a thread about LEOs walking off the job--sometimes w/o so much as a howdy-do.

I'd seen your directive, and your comment about "chewing gum in the fur." In a couple other threads I cautioned posters they were treading dangerously close to "chewing gum in the fur" territory, pointing them to that post.

But the thread in question seemed to me to be... I dunno... somewhat peripheral to the "don't talk about that here" subject. So even I commented in it w/o thinking it out-of-bounds.

My bad, I guess. I apologize.



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To the Top For Clarity. Read the Locked threads and consider Why they're locked, Read all of Paras posts for insight.

I'd repost the image above- But I know we're not supposed to repost the same image on the same page multiple times.


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Para I agree with you on this. I can't watch the news because this stupidity is plastered 24/7. I can't go on social media, because the morons are posting it everywhere, including LinkedIn which is supposed to be a PROFESSIONAL networking outlet. The libtards are jumping over themselves to self deprecate and appease. I enjoy coming here to get away from all of that.


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Originally posted by parabellum:
You don't ban a member just for posting a thread, unless it's direct, outright defiance after you told them to not do so, an even that situation wouldn't warrant it unless the member had a history of not listening.

I don't know why you're telling me this other stuff, and never do I want to hear from a member that they're posting drunk in my forum. Do yourself a favor and keep that to yourself.

I know when to hand out disciplinary action and I know the degree which is appropriate. You don't take someone out of a virtual community that they love, merely because they've pissed you off. That's cold-hearted, because although it may sound silly, that's hurtful to people if they really care about a place, more than they'll let on. I may be stern and direct but I'm not cold-hearted or cruel.

All I am asking is why I cannot seem to get through to some of you guys. I don't care how "big" the subject is. I reserve the right to turn the volume down or off on subjects I do not wish to see here, and there's really not that many subjects which are disallowed in this place.

The worst part of all this is that I've had to acknowledge the existence of these stupid-ass events, even once, and here I am, having to keep coming back to the Goddamned subject. The only power I have over the situation is to ignore it, but that's out the fucking window now. Do you guys get this? I didn't want one single speck of that shit in this forum. Not one word, one sentence, one photograph, nothing. No vague allusions, zero, but you guys are fucking forcing me to deal with this shit and it is angering me that I am being ignored, all because this is "so big" and that's a bunch of horse shit, boys and girls.

You guys see this?



That's a screenshot from the forum's control panel. Two mouse clicks is all it takes. I'll turn this motherfucker off for the rest of the month if I don't get some cooperation on this and I'll sleep like a newborn baby after doing so. Don't test me.



I would agree that banning people is cold and cruel. But giving people who continue to not follow direction, may be well suited with a week long ban to think about their behavior.

I only mentioned the intoxicated post to point out that I was being an ass of incredible proportions, and you still didn’t give me a timeout. Since that day I have not, nor will I ever post here again if I have had any drinks. You made that point very clear to me.

I feel that temporarily closing the forum would be equal to banning everyone. Wouldn’t it be better to punish the ones who are spoiling it for everyone? I’m not suggesting a permaban, but a week off.

You know this place and the people better than any of us. You’ve been doing this for, well forever. We will back your decision whatever it may be, even if you close the forum for a while. In the end you are our friend and because of that, we will have your back.



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Originally posted by braillediver:
Read the Locked threads and consider Why they're locked, Read all of Paras posts for insight.


It would seem that that would be obvious to anyone who wanted to be an active member of a forum or any group: Pay attention to how the owner or leader wants it run. It’s still possible to misinterpret things, as I have done, but reading the manual really does make things a lot easier.




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I sometimes miss announcements if I'm not here every day. I wonder if it's possible to place a redirect to the announcement when a member logs on. He/she must indicate the announcement has been understood before the web page goes to the forum. Shouldn't have to do that but it would ensure all have seen it.

I fully understand the motivation to avoid the noise. It has become cacophonous and obviously divisive. The only way to win that game is not to play. I am pleased that Parabellum works to keep the place pure. I'm certain that is why it and he are so valuable to all of us.



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The same members who fall back on the tired, “your house your rules” phrase, are the same ones who choose to test your authority.


Sanctimonious, yet incorrect.
 
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It's not surprising, some folks just don't read every thread, or even read the posts within a thread before running to be the next top poster.

Figure it's something psychological, people want, no need to be the one that posts the next big story, to get replies, to have their thread the next Cat Thread with forty eleven billion views.....

You notice this in threads where mods have stepped in, made a post(s) that some activity needs to cease, only to have the next post be the same content that was asked to stop.

Its understandable in long threads where you just can't read the whole thread, but you ought to read the 4 or 5 previous posts before typing in a reply to be sure you are not missing something important or duplicating previous posts, violating a mods request.

Still some will just post to post, gotta get that number up...

So to some extent perhaps it's an about me first, post count, and perhaps laziness and human nature...

Then again it's JMO
 
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Still some will just post to post, gotta get that number up...

So it's about me first, post count, and perhaps laziness and human nature...


Don't forget the rigging of karma outcomes.



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Originally posted by Georgeair:


Don't forget the rigging of karma outcomes.


How does someone rig a karma outcome?


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Originally posted by Georgeair:


Don't forget the rigging of karma outcomes.


How does someone rig a karma outcome?



I think George was referencing a post, from a year or more ago. Someone was having a problem because he never won a karma. He was sure the karmas were rigged.
 
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It was well more than a year ago. More like 6-8 years ago.

There was a certain member who went on a rant/meltdown because they were convinced that the Karmas were rigged so that only "high profile members" won.

So now the running joke is that people are padding their post counts just so that they can become "high profile" enough to win a Karma.
 
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This shouldn't be baffling but I'm at a loss myself. This isn't complicated to me. I assume nobody is doing this purposefully. It could be ignorance but this admonition is going on several weeks now. Maybe the line is a little fuzzy on particular stories? To those who've posted these stories, you should have the best explanations.



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It was well more than a year ago. More like 6-8 years ago.

There was a certain member who went on a rant/meltdown because they were convinced that the Karmas were rigged so that only "high profile members" won.

So now the running joke is that people are padding their post counts just so that they can become "high profile" enough to win a Karma.


Ah yes, I remember that thread.


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Posts: 31162 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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All of the other boards I frequent are free-for-alls. Sure there are mods, and reasonable decorum and respect is expected. But otherwise, it seems there are no rules. Post whatever you like, people respond, get into name calling, and it eventually gets locked, or just dies as a thread.

This board is different. That is an observation, not a criticism or suggestion. Point only that some people may be accustomed to posting whatever thought is on their mind at any given moment - without consideration for established rules and requests.

I'd like to give people the benefit of the doubt that they don't remember or don't know, rather than don't care.
 
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Originally posted by Georgeair:
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Still some will just post to post, gotta get that number up...

So it's about me first, post count, and perhaps laziness and human nature...


Don't forget the rigging of karma outcomes.


Yes, well that's simply a by-product, increasing Karma points LOL
 
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