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Then, might I suggest taking a measured approach in your commentary, so as to avoid being mistaken for one of the zombies which appear here from time to time?

Will do. Non Maga, conservative business owner here. Just frustrated with politics in general at times.

In ten years, we will be wishing President Trump had pounded Iran even harder than we're doing right now.

Perhaps, but Iran has unexpectedly become the cockroach that is proving more adversarial than anticipated. Some of which is due to their fortuitous geographical location.

In any case, appreciate your input and advice.

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Perhaps, but Iran has unexpectedly become the cockroach that is proving more adversarial than anticipated.

Which I think is why para says in ten years we'll wish he'd pounded Iran even harder.

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Will do. Non Maga, conservative business owner here. Just frustrated with politics in general at times.

It must be tough to be a conservative business owner in Oregon. Being an open Trump supporter would make that all but impossible.
Being frustrated with politics in general is something most of us can relate to.

[Mick Jagger voice] You can't always get what you want...

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Originally posted by parabellum:
reasons and purpose of Operation Epic Fury

I have had to remind myself of them from time to time, especially as not everything has turned out as we (I, anyway) would have liked and perhaps even pretty much naively assumed despite my knowledge of history in general and of wars specifically.

Every war causes bad things to happen to all sides, no matter how one-sided the operations and results may have been. In this war the US has been remarkably successful, and regardless of how many bad things have happened to our side and neutrals who shouldn’t have even been involved in the conflict, nothing compares in the slightest to how bad a nuclear weapon’s going off in the Hudson or Potomac or even the Thames or Seine would have been.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
In ten years, we will be wishing President Trump had pounded Iran even harder than we're doing right now.

Agreed.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
In ten years, we will be wishing President Trump had pounded Iran even harder than we're doing right now.

I agree with this 100%. People are shortsighted and simply look at their 401(k) or their gas prices and don’t really understand that we need to pound these people into nothingness or else they will rebuild and come back like a bad rash where you didn’t take your antibiotics long enough.

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…nothing compares in the slightest to how bad a nuclear weapon’s going off in the Hudson or Potomac or even the Thames or Seine would have been.

That’s the issue right there.

The rest of the world had ample time and opportunity to help us solve this problem diplomatically or otherwise. Most of them chose otherwise for various reasons, but that doesn’t mean we have to accept being Iran’s punching bag.

If the world thinks Trump is a petulant child, what does that make Iran who has been calling for death to America for decades and continually tries to build the weapons to achieve that goal?

This is who we are dealing with

https://x.com/DrewPavlou/statu...967293343096896?s=20

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Originally posted by PASig:
This is who we are dealing with

https://x.com/DrewPavlou/statu...967293343096896?s=20

[FLASH_VIDEO]etc.etc.

I'm probably not very bright but still, I feel stupider for having watched that exchange.

So end the war by forming a 'Fire Island' community in muzzle land? How are these people smart enough to feed themselves?

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Originally posted by Patriot:,,,People are shortsighted and simply look at their 401(k) or their gas prices....

Sadly, the very materialistic things so many people look at with the utmost importance to them are, the first things to lose when those who foment evil get the upper hand.

Yes. Pound all the evil cockroaches to paste.

It's been a month. This is not a Tik-tok clip.
We can and should endure what it takes to eliminate the threat, and if the world does not GAS, then do it for America First...

The existential threat from the Soviets was ended 34 years ago, and the world has not lived with that terror since. I grew up with that, faced it in the military for most of that time.

And observed Iran building to that same level of threat, and more, with a greater driven evil ideology.

It needs to end to the point that another 34 years of not worrying about it is realized.

We have the ability and the means, but we need the heart to see it through.

It won't be cheap, it won't be easy, it won't be fast.

President Pezeshkian: prepared to end war with guarantees against further attacks.

Meanwhile, IRGC warns it will hit 18 US tech companies in region, says Siemens in Israel already attacked.

A big question will be whether this could represent an IRGC vs. civilian government divide, as far as whether this peace overture sticks. Also, the US and Israel would have to both agree to halt the ongoing aerial strikes, but it's not at all clear whether the Netanyahu government would be on board with ceasefire, given many believe Israel's objectives are much more expansive, oriented toward total regime collapse.

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It won't be cheap, it won't be easy, it won't be fast.

pretty much like anything worthwhile.

Before the US and Israel agrees to end hostilities with they liars currently in charge there is nothing wrong with planting the seeds of revolution. I still believe the best path to facilitate this is:

coordinate with the Crown Prince as he has a following, legitimate claim to be leader, and seems sane

land several C130s in remote areas with the cargo hold full of M16A2/A4 rifles (i.e. former main battle rifles the Army still has in storage), man portable anti-tank equipment, and ammo/loads for all of it.

The Iranian men have training but don't have arms. The reason I say this is since 1925 Iran has had mandatory conscription and every adult male must have served 21 months to 24 months prior to their 21st birthday. 2 months of basic and 19 to 22 months in regular army, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), or the police command. IRGC is usually for people with political connections so arm the men who formerly were forced to serve in the regular army or police command, but didn't make a career out of it.

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Originally posted by PASig:
This is who we are dealing with

https://x.com/DrewPavlou/statu...967293343096896?s=20

The sad thing is:
That thing votes and breeds.

^^ Trump needs to publicly come out against vasectomies so the TDS lunatics do the opposite and take themselves out of the gene pool.

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land several C130s in remote areas with the cargo hold full of M16A2/A4 rifles (i.e. former main battle rifles the Army still has in storage), man portable anti-tank equipment, and ammo/loads for all of it.

Sort of like leaving countless weapons in Afghanistan when we tucked our tail in and left?

Many Iranians may not like the current regime, but what reason do we have to believe that even if it is overthrown the replacement will be any less hostile to the US and Israel (among others)? Not every time that the US has supported some group with arms and money has the group turned out to be our useful friends.

The war is not going as I anticipated (admitted, without much thought) because my S2 did a poor job of informing me about Iran’s military capabilities, but I find it hard to believe that scattering a bunch of small arms among the populace would improve things for us.

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land several C130s in remote areas with the cargo hold full of M16A2/A4 rifles (i.e. former main battle rifles the Army still has in storage), man portable anti-tank equipment, and ammo/loads for all of it.

The Iranian men have training but don't have arms. The reason I say this is since 1925 Iran has had mandatory conscription and every adult male must have served 21 months to 24 months prior to their 21st birthday. 2 months of basic and 19 to 22 months in regular army, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), or the police command. IRGC is usually for people with political connections so arm the men who formerly were forced to serve in the regular army or police command, but didn't make a career out of it.

Yeah no, tossing out a bunch of weapons without knowing who's getting it is a recipe for disaster. The IRGC is lever of power but the stain that is amongst the Iranian people is the Basij.
These are the dumb-dumbs who live amongst the population, the easily coerced and influenced as they are criminals in every form. They aren't smart enough to ascend up the IRGC ladder, they're the useful idiots amongst the population that every despot leverages to maintain order and rats-out their neighbor; they're the morality assholes. Leave it to the Israeli Mossad who has done a masterful job undermining and exploiting the Iranian senior leadership, it'll be up to them to identify who's left of the opposition who weren't amongst the many who were slaughtered back in February. I agree with providing weapons but, let the Israelis do it; it's their backyard and they're the ones who going to have to manage whomever ascends into power.

Time will tell.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...Qdn65TEkmzaVz%2Bk%3D

US to End Iran Operation in 2 to 3 Weeks, Trump Says

U.S. forces have struck more than 11,000 targets in Iran in the past month.

WASHINGTON—U.S. forces could conclude combat operations against Iran in as few as two weeks, President Donald Trump said on March 31.

Asked during a White House press conference if he has a plan to help bring down gas prices, which have risen since the start of the conflict, Trump said, “All I have to do is leave Iran, and we‘ll be doing that very soon, and they’ll become tumbling down.”

The president went on to say U.S. forces could conclude combat operations against Iran in two or three weeks.

“I would say that within two weeks, maybe two weeks, maybe three,” he said.

As he spoke during his White House press conference, Trump described a circumstance in which U.S. forces would conclude the conflict without necessarily addressing all Iranian threats on the Strait of Hormuz. Instead, he said it will be up to other countries to defend their trade interests in the narrow waterway.

“That’s not for us. That will be for France. That will be for whoever is using the strait,” he said.

Trump did predict threats in the Strait of Hormuz will have largely subsided by the time U.S. combat operations conclude.

“Today, I heard tremendous numbers of ships were sailing through,” the president added.

Since the start of the military campaign—dubbed Operation Epic Fury—U.S. forces have struck more than 11,000 targets.

At a Pentagon press briefing on Tuesday, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said the previous 24 hours had marked the lowest number of Iranian missile and attack drone launches since the fighting began.

“The latest intel is clear ... our strikes are damaging the morale of the Iranian military, leading to widespread desertions, key personnel shortages, and causing frustrations amongst senior leaders,” Hegseth said.

During the press briefing, Hegseth avoided offering a specific timeline for completing the various military objectives of the conflict.

“Four to six weeks, six to eight weeks, three. It could be any particular number, but we would never reveal precisely what it is because our goal is to finish those objectives, and we’re well on our way,” Hegseth said.

The secretary of war said it will be up to the president to make the final determination on when to finalize a peace deal with Tehran.

Trump’s Tuesday comments are not the first time he has signaled the Iran conflict is nearing an end. He and other members of the administration have repeatedly indicated U.S. forces are ahead of schedule in the operation, but additional U.S. forces have begun to arrive in the region in recent days.
About two weeks into the Iran conflict, the U.S. military dispatched an amphibious ready group and an embarked Marine Expeditionary Unit, consisting of around 4,000 to 5,000 sailors and Marines, to the Middle East. A second amphibious ready group has also departed from California and has been sailing west across the Pacific in recent days.

The Pentagon also dispatched elements of the U.S. Army’s 82nd Airborne Division to the Middle East, including the division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team.
Speaking with reporters as he visited France last week, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the United States can complete its military campaign against Iran without needing ground troops. Still, Rubio said additional ground troops heading to the region would provide Trump with a range of military options.

“We are always going to be prepared to give the president maximum optionality,” Rubio said.