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I had a'73 240Z back in the day and truly regret not having it today, what a ride!

I dated a girl who had one... Wow, what a ride!
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The car or the girl? Wink


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Didn't figure you for a baby blue caddy, but it works! Nice looking, did you install a charger at the Hanger and the House?
Nah, baby blue is gay. This is "Nimbus."

240 volt charger at home, was just using plain old 120 volt at the hangar, but no more hangar. Did not renew the lease.



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I'd love to have a new Z (or one from almost any of the previous generations), but the long delays and the high price make it a no-go in the House of Vthoky. Frown



No manual option on the NISMO was a mistake, IMO.

Similarly, Subaru did the same on the WRX.
If you want the GT model, CVT only.
Want electronic dampers, CVT only




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The car or the girl? Wink

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No manual option on the NISMO was a mistake, IMO.

Similarly, Subaru did the same on the WRX.
If you want the GT model, CVT only.
Want electronic dampers, CVT only


With Subaru, part of it has to deal with the EyeSight system can't be made to work with a manual and some of the features need computer control. With Nissan it's entirely going cheap.
 
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I'm a longtime Nissan fan, but I'll throw a bit of doodoo at Nissan for the latest Z launch... they boned it badly.

Production delays stalled the product for long enough all that the hype ahead of it faded before cars could actually reach the streets. I've seen two of the new Z at my local dealer, and ZERO on the roads.

I'd love to have a new Z (or one from almost any of the previous generations), but the long delays and the high price make it a no-go in the House of Vthoky. Frown



Not only that, but huge dealer markups turned a lot of people off. With the markups, you could frequently get into a C8 Corvette for less money. If you wanted the Z, you were going to get the Z. If you just wanted the fastest car though, the C8 was the easy choice.




"The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said Ford, "it is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them. They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards."
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard, then the wrong lizard might get in."
 
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Sounds like it may be a new Xterra


I do hope it's not electric. An all-electric just seems to be the entire opposite of the "go anywhere, anytime" attitude of SUVs.

Side note: I think a neighbor is a bigger Nissan loyalist than me: two old-school Xterra and a Maxima in his driveway.


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huge dealer markups turned a lot of people off.


No doubt!


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ETA: My 2002, about 2k miles ago:





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If a full electric model is the only option, expect it to flop big time. There needs to be a strictly internal combustion engine option, and with the roll back of Biden emissions and CAFE standards, there is no reason why a traditional engine should not be a possibility.




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I just got a brand new 2025 Nissan Rogue.

To use, not to own. Smile

Glad I'm not going to have to fix it, because there's sure plenty to go wrong. Though I imagine all new cars are this way, unnecessarily complicate. (from an owners standpoint, I'm sure it makes them easier to assemble and makes the dealers more money fixing them)

So far the over all build quality isn't impressive. This one has manually adjustable seats (shockingly), and the lever to raise and lower it, you kind of pump it like a jack handle. It's hollow formed plastic, bends in your hand while using it. Doesn't instill a lot of confidence.
 
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No manual option on the NISMO was a mistake, IMO.

Similarly, Subaru did the same on the WRX.
If you want the GT model, CVT only.
Want electronic dampers, CVT only


GT model? Even if they put their 6MT in it, why in the world would you pay that, for that? It doesn’t have a front or rear differential. You could get a GRC for that. A little more and a Golf R. But good ol’ VAG is doing the same thing with the R. The 6MT is going the way of the dodo. But that WRX is awful. The plastic fender flares, the awful rear bumper. The WRX will be canceled soon. They rot on lots and stealers have to severely discount them to move them. It’s not if but when that thing gets canceled too.



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A 400-HP Nissan Z Now Costs Less Than a Mazda MX-5 Miata

"Current cash bonuses plus dealer-specific discounts means you get twice the sports car for the same price or less."

Article at The Drive




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This one has manually adjustable seats (shockingly), and the lever to raise and lower it, you kind of pump it like a jack handle.

Just like my wife's Toyota Rav4, also not impressive.


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I just got a brand new 2025 Nissan Rogue.

To use, not to own. SmileQUOTE]

My wife's 2023 Rogue has been flawless. So far. It has all the bells and whistles so both front sears are electric. Her old VW had that pump seat thingy and I know what you mean, it always felt like the handle was going to fold when you used it.

Its probably all new cars, but it worries me about how much there is to go wrong and how it is all tied together. My old Ram's radio went out, so I put a new one in it. If her radio goes out the car wont run because everything ties into the info center.



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No manual option on the NISMO was a mistake, IMO.

Similarly, Subaru did the same on the WRX.
If you want the GT model, CVT only.
Want electronic dampers, CVT only


GT model? Even if they put their 6MT in it, why in the world would you pay that, for that? It doesn’t have a front or rear differential. You could get a GRC for that. A little more and a Golf R. But good ol’ VAG is doing the same thing with the R. The 6MT is going the way of the dodo. But that WRX is awful. The plastic fender flares, the awful rear bumper. The WRX will be canceled soon. They rot on lots and stealers have to severely discount them to move them. It’s not if but when that thing gets canceled too.


At least with the Golf, you get a quite good DCT
I nearly bought a GTI before opting for the Mercedes. The Autobahn trim was a bit out of budget at the time, and the SEL didn't tick all the boxes I wanted.
Loved how it drove, though.




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[QUOTE]Originally posted by cas:
I just got a brand new 2025 Nissan Rogue.

To use, not to own. SmileQUOTE]

My wife's 2023 Rogue has been flawless. So far. It has all the bells and whistles so both front sears are electric. Her old VW had that pump seat thingy and I know what you mean, it always felt like the handle was going to fold when you used it.

Its probably all new cars, but it worries me about how much there is to go wrong and how it is all tied together. My old Ram's radio went out, so I put a new one in it. If her radio goes out the car wont run because everything ties into the info center.


I feel like for now, cars probably peaked in the late 2010s. So much stuff is tied together in the new ones that simple repairs are thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars. Part of that is inflation driven, but part of it is due to the absurd amount of integration in every single part on the car. Rock chip in your windshield? Now it's going to cost you two grand because they have to recalibrate a slew of sensors when they fix it. Water in your tailight? Well, it corroded the connectors and they're connected to the CANBUS system so now your vehicle won't start and it's a multi-thousand dollar repair. Couple that with stretched supply chains, and your vehicle can be down weeks if not months.




"The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said Ford, "it is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them. They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards."
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard, then the wrong lizard might get in."
 
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the absurd amount of integration in every single part on the car.


You are not incorrect, sir.

I think my next "saving for a new car" run might instead be called "saving for an older car and a repair budget."

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Water in your tailight? Well, it corroded the connectors and they're connected to the CANBUS system so now your vehicle won't start and it's a multi-thousand dollar repair.


And that's how we get $1100 taillight assemblies.
(Looking at you, Ford.... )




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At least with the Golf, you get a quite good DCT
I nearly bought a GTI before opting for the Mercedes. The Autobahn trim was a bit out of budget at the time, and the SEL didn't tick all the boxes I wanted.
Loved how it drove, though.


VW’s DSG is exceptional. As engaging as a 6MT, except you don’t move your left foot, IMHO.
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The R follows two GTIs (1 of each transmission). It is worth every penny over a GTI.
I spent 20 years as a big Nissan enthusiast. I hope they find their way back to engaging cars.
 
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VW’s DSG is exceptional. As engaging as a 6MT, except you don’t move your left foot, IMHO.

The R follows two GTIs (1 of each transmission). It is worth every penny over a GTI.
I spent 20 years as a big Nissan enthusiast. I hope they find their way back to engaging cars.


As a rally car enthusiast (watered down production versions, AWD, turbo, diffs, 6MT), owning 4 (on my 4th), I have a lot of experience in this class of car. Track and street. The Golf R is an exceptional vehicle. If using for DD purposes, Golf R. If buying for backroad (b roads) and track, GRC. I went the GR Corolla route (Circuit Edition) because I don’t use it to commute, only used for tackling corners in anger. But the Golf R is the better daily driver and has a better audio system. It’s always been more comfortable, more luxury feeling, and much better audio system. I’ve driven every iteration they’ve imported into the US. The VR6 and the current version (6MT) were my favorites.



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I've always heard that the 6MT in the GTI/R leaves a lot to be desired, compared to the DSG.
I've only got seat time in a few DSG GTI test drives, so I can't comment from personal experience.

Same to be said for cars like the Mistu Evo X. The manual seemed like an afterthought.
Which is a shame, because I loved the few drives I've had in a couple Evo 8 & 9.

In Houston DD traffic, hate to say it but an auto does make it easier.




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