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Maybe they could make a comeback by building a car that came with wind up windows, manual door locks, a key operated ignition, an engine you can tinker with and a basic radio. If you want a gps, get a Garmin. Get rid of all the computers and tracking crap.

I'd like that. The tech has gone beyond anything I want from a car. It's gone from cool to frustrating.
I know, it's not going back to simple but simple was good.

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Well, in our area the only Nissan you see on the road for most part is Altima. Apparently a pathway car for those who can't quite get a Charger/Challenger. They are both driven with equal aplomb and indifference to any norms, laws or common sense.

If reparations were made, Jackson alone would put Nissan in terrific position again.


I looked into buying a year or 3 old one before getting the RAV I now have,

did not want another CVT (traded the 15 Civic w/ CVT) and the RAV was better rated, and the examples I found and saw on the road seem to hold up better

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Honda And Nissan To Work Toward Merger That Would Make Them World's Third Largest Automaker

As China continues its dominance over the global market, EVs continue to play a central role in changing the business and global economies slow down, Honda and Nissan have announced plans to merge, according to AP.

The resultant company would be world’s third-largest automaker by sales, according to the report. On Monday the two companies announced they had signed a memorandum of understanding to integrate their businesses, with Mitsubishi Motors also joining the discussions.

Facing competition from EV leaders like Tesla and China's BYD, Japanese automakers are uniting to cut costs and accelerate their transition to electric vehicles.

Honda's president, Toshihiro Mibe, stated the companies plan to form a joint holding company, maintaining their brands while Honda leads management. A merger agreement is targeted for June, with the holding company expected to list on the Tokyo Stock Exchange by August 2026.

There is still to study and discuss, Mibe said. He commented: “Frankly speaking, the possibility of this not being implemented is not zero.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...worlds-third-largest



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^^^ It'll be interesting to see if President Trump has anything to say about that.




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The regulatory driven EV mandate in the US is dead for the next 4 years, and Trump is talking an external revenue service and new tariffs. Seems boneheaded to close 2 US plants when you're on the brink of tariffs for foreign made anything, and the US gov't won't be putting their thumb on the scale when consumers are deciding whether or not to buy EVs.



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Seems boneheaded to close 2 US plants when you're on the brink of tariffs for foreign made anything, and the US gov't won't be putting their thumb on the scale when consumers are deciding whether or not to buy EVs.



Look at my OP and what this industry insider is saying. This seems like a desperation move to me, I think they truly are on their way out as a viable car company.


 
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Nissan is known for boneheaded moves. Honda should take notice.


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I had a Nissan Maxima. I think it was well-built. Had no major problems until I sold it over $150,000 miles. I think they just don’t have enough market recognition.



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Nissan is known for boneheaded moves.


That was because they had Renault's CEO, He was actively trying to destroy them, now he's on the run from Japan's justice system.


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Nissan is known for boneheaded moves.


That was because they had Renault's CEO, He was actively trying to destroy them...


How so? Not that I doubt you-just haven't heard of this.
 
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Nissan is known for boneheaded moves.


That was because they had Renault's CEO, He was actively trying to destroy them...


How so? Not that I doubt you-just haven't heard of this.
Instead of merging, Nissan entered into this really bizarre contractual arrangement with Renault that they called the Alliance. Nissan was larger and more profitable, but for some unknown reason Renault got a 43.4% stake in Nissan and Nissan only got a 15% stake in Renault. Ghosn from Renault became the CEO of the Alliance which meant he controlled Nissan. Ghosn ended up arrested and imprisoned in 2018. From 1999 to 2018, is when Nissan made most of its boneheaded moves that I listed at the top of Page 2. In 2023, they finally restructured so each only had 15% of each others stock.



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Was faced with the decision to either put a new CVT in my '13 Rogue very recently, or trade it in. For ten years it was the most reliable car I'd ever owned. Fine around town, needed more horsepower for highway merges though. The new 1.5L turbo powerplant was a big "IF" for me on another Rogue; I went to the Mazda CX-5. I hope the mark can survive.
 
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Mazda is about to bet the farm on another new oddball engine design. A valved two stroke.


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I had a Nissan Maxima. I think it was well-built. Had no major problems until I sold it over $150,000 miles. I think they just don’t have enough market recognition.


I had a Nissan Maxima. It was a 2001 model year: 3.0L V6. It was a great car... but I haven't had one since.




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I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around their big push towards EV vehicles. As mentioned above, Trump has killed the EV mandate and Vance will do the same when he is elected President in 2028. Smile

EV vehicles seem to be accepted in most urban areas but there are a whole bunch of people outside those areas that will never touch one, myself included. I honestly don't know a single person that has one, or would ever buy one in the future.



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I had a Nissan Maxima. It was a 2001 model year: 3.0L V6. It was a great car... but I haven't had one since.


I think the late-90s / very early 2000s were Nissan's greatest years. The Maxima you showed is one of my favorite Nissan products ever. There's a dealer (collector) near me with a 2000 model in stock. Despite it being literally an antique now, I could be mighty tempted to buy it.

My '02 Pathfinder has been a beast, currently showing almost 330k miles. I'd tell positive stories about that truck all day long. We had an '01 as well, purchased at 100k miles. It, too, was exceptional for an additional 125k miles. The lead service advisor at the local Nissan store and I talk frequently about the R50 Pathfinder. We believe if Nissan would build a batch of those, they'd sell like cold lemonade in August.

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I've long been a fan of the plant in Smyrna. I hope it can survive. Perhaps this shift away from EV will help that.




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I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around their big push towards EV vehicles. As mentioned above, Trump has killed the EV mandate and Vance will do the same when he is elected President in 2028. Smile

EV vehicles seem to be accepted in most urban areas but there are a whole bunch of people outside those areas that will never touch one, myself included. I honestly don't know a single person that has one, or would ever buy one in the future.


I was in the same camp about electric vehicles until I looked at how cheap a used Nissan Leaf goes for. I picked up a 2023 Leaf SV Plus that has the larger battery, and drive motor, and a 200 mile range. It only had 11000 miles on it and looks new. With the Federal used rebate I was able to get it for $15,000.

It will be used as my daily around town driver and we have 2 other vehicles to use on trips. It is like an oversized go cart and is actually fun to drive I think I can save enough on gas in 10 years to pay for the thing, and my dog seems to really like it.


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Instead of merging, Nissan entered into this really bizarre contractual arrangement with Renault that they called the Alliance. Nissan was larger and more profitable, but for some unknown reason Renault got a 43.4% stake in Nissan and Nissan only got a 15% stake in Renault. Ghosn from Renault became the CEO of the Alliance which meant he controlled Nissan. Ghosn ended up arrested and imprisoned in 2018. From 1999 to 2018, is when Nissan made most of its boneheaded moves that I listed at the top of Page 2. In 2023, they finally restructured so each only had 15% of each others stock.


And speaking of Carlos Ghosn:

https://www.hagerty.co.uk/arti...o-says-carlos-ghosn/

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Can a Nissan-Honda Merger Work? No, Says Carlos Ghosn
The former head of Nissan had a lot to say about the potential Nissan-Honda merger, and it wasn't positive.

By Bryan Gerould

Given the recent news regarding merger talks between Honda and Nissan, you likely won’t be surprised by what the obviously bitter former executive has to say. For instance, the story that Bloomberg ran is titled, “Carlos Ghosn Predicts a Reckoning for Car Industry ‘Weaklings’.” And he isn’t necessarily talking just about Nissan and Mitsubishi; he’s convinced that big companies, like the Taiwan-based electronics giant Foxconn, which is interested in Nissan, will soon swallow up smaller auto manufacturers.

As for Nissan and Honda, Ghosn termed the merger talks a “desperate move.”

“It’s not a pragmatic deal because frankly, the synergies between the two companies are difficult to find,” he said in the videotaped interview. “There is practically no complementarity between the two companies. They are in the same markets. They have the same products. The brands are very, very similar. At the end of the day they are trying to marry the short-term problems of Nissan, and the long-term vision of Honda.” He said that he believes Honda is being pushed into a possible merger by the Japanese government’s Ministry of Economy, Trade, and Industry.

In a separate press conference held on 23 December, Ghosn doubled down. “If this merger takes place,” he said, “personally I don’t think it’s going to be successful.” The companies are “surrendering in a certain way, in panic mode, by saying, ‘Please help us,’” Ghosn said.

All this must be taken with a grain of salt, as Ghosn, 70, definitely has an axe to grind. You’ll recall that the former CEO and chairman of the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi group was arrested and charged with financial crimes in Japan in 2018, and jumped his $14 million bail and fled the country in December of 2019.

He escaped to Lebanon hidden in a three-foot musical equipment case on a private jet in December of 2019. Last year Ghosn filed a $1 billion lawsuit against Nissan for multiple charges, including spreading “misinformation” about him. The suit is pending.
 
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I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around their big push towards EV vehicles. <snip> I honestly don't know a single person that has one, or would ever buy one in the future
Five months ago, it was time to replace my previous car. I looked at my driving pattern for the past several years and realized that I had not driven any further than the round-trip range of an EV. Looked at leases, wound up with a Cadillac LYRIQ. Every time I drive it, I am reassured that it was the correct decision, but that is for me, and for my needs. An EV would probably not be right for the majority of drivers, especially if it were the only vehicle in the household.

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