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I agree that celibate priests are not a problem. I was merely commenting on the fact that your comment implied that some can, and do, perceive a problem with celibate priests in regards to counseling families.

I'm sorry, but I did not intend to imply a problem with celibate priests.
I'm merely open to the possibility of married priests in the future.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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I agree that celibate priests are not a problem. I was merely commenting on the fact that your comment implied that some can, and do, perceive a problem with celibate priests in regards to counseling families.

I'm sorry, but I did not intend to imply a problem with celibate priests.
I'm merely open to the possibility of married priests in the future.



Married priests are not a good idea. Priestly celibacy allows a man to imitate Christ more closely, devote himself completely to God's people, and become a living sign that eternal life with God is the ultimate goal of every Christian.

The problem in the church is the infiltration by Marxists and homosexuals; not celibacy. Fr.Perricone had a great interview on Pints with Aquinas recently in which he described the seminaries. Open homosexuality. Not just moving away from but hostility toward traditional Catholicism. Luckily, as mentioned before, there is a significant swing toward conservatism and traditionalism in the Church. Things are looking better.
 
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Married priests are not a good idea. Priestly celibacy allows a man to imitate Christ more closely, devote himself completely to God's people, and become a living sign that eternal life with God is the ultimate goal of every Christian.



While I agree that some folks who are celibate can use this to gain a deeper devotion, I have seen nearly the opposite side. Priest are human men, often alone and greatly tempted.

Raised Catholic, rural small town, alter boy... Priest also covered a nearby town. He had a severe alcohol problem and was forced to retire (he ultimately died in a house fire, where he left a candle burning).

His replacement was much younger and was a breath of fresh air. He ended up leaving the priesthood to marry someone.

After that, his replacement (I was not living in the area any longer) was 'living with his house keeper', well known in the small town.

I have always seen the idea of celibacy to be purely theoretical, not something that is a truly positive distinguishing ideal.




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Married priests are not a good idea. Priestly celibacy allows a man to imitate Christ more closely, ...

Yeah, I can understand that, in theory... but as billpocz points out above, and I have witnessed as well, it doesn't always work out that way.

I can also understand why the church allowed married priests for about the first thousand years. I believe St. Peter was a married man. Perhaps he wasn't the greatest spouse as he was surely away from his wife much of the time.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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What is the Roman Catholic position on the apostle Peter's marital status? It seems like there's disagreement among Catholics. I think it's clear from scripture, but I realize that church authority and tradition are what many/most Catholics go by.

I know it was said here that God didn't leave us a Bible, he left a church. But it sure would be nice for God to have given some sort of a book to refer to that gives qualifications for overseers (bishops) and deacons and if they can be married.
 
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