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Originally posted by Protein anchor:
Should we just not bother then?

You are exactly right. You know, I thought America, particularly those on this board was stronger and smarter than this. But, they keep falling for this jedi mind trick crap. VIRTUALLY EVERY POLL HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE RIGGED TO PUSH A NARRATIVE. Wow, I just wonder, what a map would look like if we put all the polls together? Oh, yeah, something like that.

Just tell me, if that isn't so, and I'm full of crap, why is that EVERY "news" source has run two types of articles in the last month. Trump is a monster, Hillary has already won. The polls are slanted just the same.

This war that the media is fighting against us, against freedom, is designed to do just that. Make us down in the mouth and say "can't win, why bother". And for some, it is working, doing exactly what the left is trying to do.

Believe it or not, Trump has yet another rally tonight. This time he is in Newtown, PA (North of Philly.) The media has refused to note the energy level this 70 year-old guy has demonstrated throughout the 16+ months he has been campaigning. Few men half his age could have done the same. He intends to average 3 rallies a day through November 7th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9TlYn9qh4

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The establishment is horrified at the Donald’s defiance because, deep within its soul, it fears that the people for whom Trump speaks no longer accept its political legitimacy or moral authority.

That is because it has neither political legitimacy or moral authority.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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The establishment is horrified at the Donald’s defiance because, deep within its soul, it fears that the people for whom Trump speaks no longer accept its political legitimacy or moral authority.

That is because it has neither political legitimacy or moral authority.

Preach it!

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His approval numbers, even today, are amazingly high.

do we have an believable/verifiable level of confidence in this metric?

If Trump was really losing to Hillary, the media would not be so bent and on the attack.

As long as the media is going after him, it means we are in this.

The interstate was backed-up due to a tractor-trailer accident, so my way home had to be on back roads.
I saw about twenty political signs along the way - only one was for Clinton; the rest were for Trump.
A completely unscientific sampling, but that looks promising to me.

And this in the liberal democrat-infested Northeast.

Rush had a really good message to ponder on today. For the sake of brevity I'm only going to quote a portion of his transcript. Go to his website for the entirety of it.

"Robert Creamer's Jailhouse Manual for Democrats to Demoralize Conservatives"
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"A recent column by Stanley Kurtz has unearthed a quote from this Robert Creamer guy. Now, Creamer is the guy that James O'Keefe videotapes, a secret video, Project Veritas -- for those of you in Rio Linda, Project Veritas. And he's the guy that is an Alinskyite. His roots go back to Obama's community organizing days. He's the husband of Jan Schakowsky, the Democrat congresswoman from Illinois. He's the guy that it has been learned visited the White House 340-some-odd times, and 42 of those visits were with Obama. And he's the guy we found out via O'Keefe's videos that was arranging and orchestrating, buying and paying for the hiring of homeless people and other activists to go disrupt Donald Trump rallies.

He's the guy.

And then there was another guy named Scott Foval who was working for him. They both supposedly have been fired. But Robert Creamer's not gonna be fired from anything in the Democrat Party. He's gonna be moved laterally or promoted or what have you. He's not gonna be fired. These are the people who essentially hire and pay for agitators and protesters to make it look like average, normal, everyday people are appalled by Republicans. So the Democrats hire, in many cases homeless people or immigrants, people that don't even really know what's going on, they give them provocative T-shirts to wear and tell them provocative things to say and they send them, for example, to a Trump rally.

They are to cause trouble. They are to cause violence. They are to instigate violence, making it look like Trump supporters are a bunch of lawless rubes beating up people they don't like. But it's not exclusive to Trump. These people have been doing this for as long as I've been doing this program. That's why there's a term for this: rent-a-mob. George Soros pays for also this via his donations and his various PACs. But the point of it is it's all fake. It's all an illusion.

And the media plays right along. It's made to look like your average, ordinary American is appalled by your average, ordinary Republican or conservative. And it's made to look like the average, ordinary American is so disgusted that they just can't handle it and they show up and they protest because the Republicans are just unacceptable. And none of it is real. It's all bought and paid for. It's all orchestrated. It's scripted. It is strategized and planned. The media plays along by making it look like it's organic and spontaneous when it's nothing more than a script that is being followed by activists.

And in many cases they're not even really activists; they're just people plucked off the park bench or the street in whatever city the activity is planned. They are paid in some cases $1,500 bucks, in other cases 50, to just go out and raise hell and start fights and engage in violence. And the media's role is to tell the story that the Republicans at the rally caused it.

Well, in Stanley Kurtz's column at National Review Online, it was either yesterday or the day before, he had this quote from Creamer in 2007, Robert Creamer who published Stand Up Straight: How Progressives Can Win. It's a tactical handbook for the left that he wrote while in prison. The guy is a convicted felon and he is at the top of the food chain of the Democrat Party planning all of these so-called organic protests.

Robert Creamer, the husband of Democrat Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, the guy, 42 personal, face-to-face visits with Obama in the Oval Office, 340-some-odd visits to White House in total. While in jail in 2007, while in prison writes a tactical handbook for the left called Stand Up Straight: How Progressives Can Win. By the way, he was in jail for tax evasion and bank fraud. And this from pages 74, 75, and 76 of the handbook is Creamer's advice on how to handle conservatives. The reason I'm choosing this is because it's exactly, it is exactly what I've told you one of their techniques is, and they're using it at this very moment.

"In general," writes Mr. Creamer, "our strategic goal with people who have become conservative activists is not to convert them -- that isn’t going to happen. It is to demoralize them -- to ‘deactivate’ them. We need to deflate their enthusiasm, to make them lose their ardor and above all their self-confidence…[A] way to demoralize conservative activists is to surround them with the echo chamber of our positions and assumptions. We need to make them feel that they are not mainstream, to make them feel isolated… We must isolate them ideologically…[and] use the progressive echo chamber," meaning the media and the blogs and whatever. "By defeating them and isolating them ideologically, we demoralize conservative activists directly. Then they begin to quarrel among themselves or blame each other for defeat in isolation, and that demoralizes them further."

My instincts never fail me. This is exactly what I've known this is all about. It's all about deflating you, demoralizing you, depressing you, suppressing you. And it's created the infighting. Look, we can't unify around anything on our side, not even the concept of beating them. We've got factions at war with each other. We've got conservatives saying vicious things about other conservatives that they never even say about Democrats.......

So how does this manifest itself? Okay, so they hire a bunch of people to go protest the Trump rally in Chicago. They go and they get in, fisticuffs, media shows up. The Indiana religious freedom law, they make it look like the entire country is outraged at whatever it is Republicans are doing. Religious freedom law, simple law saying that you're constitutional right to believe in whatever religion you want cannot be abridged. Well, the left must make you change your religious belief if they're gonna force various culture things on you.

So they go into Indiana after that law is passed, a majority of people vote for it, it's legitimately, democratically passed. The left can't put up with it so they flood the zone with people that are made to look like normal average everyday Americans appalled at what Republicans are doing. It's five or 10 people, 15 or 20 echoed by the media, amplified by the media, and it's made to look like -- the same thing with the Trump rally -- it's made to look like the whole country's appalled, the whole country's outraged.

You end up feeling like, "My God, I'm losing my country. Oh, my God, I'm in such a minority of people. When did this happen? When did the left overtake us?" And they haven't. It's all by design to dispirit you, demoralize you, and now it is confirmed from this clown Creamer. And then reason my instincts are right on this is 'cause this is part and parcel of Alinskyism anyway. You isolate the target, chop the head off, you keep chopping, whatever it takes. It's psychological. It's psychological operations, psyops warfare, whatever you want to call it, because they know they're in the minority.

At a Trump rally you've got 10,000 people who want to be there, another 5,000 that can't get in. You've got 15 or 20 paid reprobates inside, and at the end of the event the media tells that the 15 to 20 represent the country and the 10,000 inside are the minority, the screwballs, the oddballs, and we've gotta get rid of 'em. And people believe what they see in the media.

Pessimism and negativity are easy. It doesn't take any work to be pessimistic. It doesn't take any work to fail, but success and optimism require applied effort. And this has been going on for I don't know how long, but intensely since Obama hit the United States Senate. Before Obama even began to run for the presidency is when all this began to happen.

So the point of all this is you now, at least those of you listening to me, know full well that all of this so-called opposition to Trump during the campaign, it was fake. It was contrived. It was made, it was designed to create these circumstances that we have today. And what are those? The circumstances we have today, "Trump is, oh, my God, this is the worst thing that ever happened to American politics. Trump is dangerous. Trump is insane. Trump is unhinged. Trump is Trump is off his meds, what whatever it is, and the people that support him are, too."

Whereas the vast majority of the American people are all-in for Hillary Clinton and all-in for the Democrats. Not the case. Now, I'm not saying any of this in terms of the election and how that's gonna turn out. This is independent of that, except for the fact that they have succeeded, they always do succeed. They succeed in turning us against each other on the right. They succeed in depressing and dispiriting people.

They succeed in taking themselves, who I believe are still a minority of thought and bodies in this country, and converting themselves into what appears to be a massive majority where we all think we're losing the country. Not losing it, we've lost it, my, when did this happen, we woke up one day and one day 80% of people oppose gay marriage and the next week 80% support it? When did that happen? How did that happen? Well, it didn't!

It was made to look like it happened, and the people who had been rendered pessimistic and fatalistic caved. They stopped opposing it 'cause they didn't think they had the numbers. We're being steamrolled on all this stuff. And good old Mr. Creamer here has, as they always do, if you can find it, they'll spell out exactly what they're doing. Therefore, when they start bellyaching about things, they generally are bellyaching about the things they are doing. When they start accusing us of stuff, it's almost without fail that you can make book on the fact that they are engaging in those very actions or activities.

I think this is a huge point, folks. Not because I have been predicting it or my instincts. This is crucial to understand, that all of this that comprises liberalism, progressivism, the left, it's all psychological operations. It's all illegitimate. They've got their supporters; don't misunderstand. They've got plenty of people that buy into this stuff, too. But their technique here for quelling opposition, their technique for forcing people to just give up..........

You know, pessimism and defeatism and fatalism, they're deadly things. And this is exactly what these people have tried to do. They couldn't do it without the media. I know. They could not do this. They could not pull any of this off without the willing accomplices in the media. But again, you must realize that we don't have a media. We call it the media, but that's not what they do. It is not who they are.

I still maintain to you that the establishment, whoever they are, whatever you want to call 'em, this degree of panic and fear that they are obviously facing over Trump and his claim to wait 'til the election to actually decide whether he's gonna contest it, this is irrational........"

Rush makes very timely points to consider.

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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
Believe it or not, Trump has yet another rally tonight. This time he is in Newtown, PA (North of Philly.) The media has refused to note the energy level this 70 year-old guy has demonstrated throughout the 16+ months he has been campaigning. Few men half his age could have done the same. He intends to average 3 rallies a day through November 7th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9TlYn9qh4

Is Trump substituting rallys (rallies?) for media buys?

Will Trump do some media buys in states where he needs some EC love?

I hate listening to Mark Levin. But I did this evening. Levin is in Florida currently. Levin was bitching, as only Levin can bitch, about all the false hiLIARy ads. Since Florida is New York south of the Mouse, the Low Information Voters (LIVs) could use something other then Stronger Together and Kisses from Kaine on their TeeWee.

Although, sigh, Levin has some gems. Like abort the killer babies in the womb before they become killer toddlers armed by Heller vs DC.

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Originally posted by MitchbSC:

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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
Believe it or not, Trump has yet another rally tonight. This time he is in Newtown, PA (North of Philly.) The media has refused to note the energy level this 70 year-old guy has demonstrated throughout the 16+ months he has been campaigning. Few men half his age could have done the same. He intends to average 3 rallies a day through November 7th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9TlYn9qh4

Is Trump substituting rallys (rallies?) for media buys?

Will Trump do some media buys in states where he needs some EC love?

I hate listening to Mark Levin. But I did this evening. Levin is in Florida currently. Levin was bitching, as only Levin can bitch, about all the false hiLIARy ads. Since Florida is New York south of the Mouse, the Low Information Voters (LIVs) could use something other then Stronger Together and Kisses from Kaine on their TeeWee.

Although, sigh, Levin has some gems. Like abort the killer babies in the womb before they become killer toddlers armed by Heller vs DC.

Trump has a $22 million media buy in select markets that starts tomorrow. The source I read didn't specify the markets but I have to figure Florida figures heavily in the buy. If you can stomach Levin these days, you are a stronger man than am I. I used to really like the guy.

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You know, pessimism and defeatism and fatalism, they're deadly things. And this is exactly what these people have tried to do

My main take away from the Rush transcript.

It's also what Para says here, in one way or another, about 10 times a week.

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Originally posted by 46and2:

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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The establishment is horrified at the Donald’s defiance because, deep within its soul, it fears that the people for whom Trump speaks no longer accept its political legitimacy or moral authority.

That is because it has neither political legitimacy or moral authority.

Preach it!

Bingo.

Makes you wonder whats next up their sleeves, no?

I have my ideas.

I've been over at the political forums. The main theme is.....

As we stand now, Trump is either tied or slightly leading in all credible nationwide polls. He also is slightly leading in enough battleground states to win the election. So.....

The mainstream media has no choice but to drop at least one more major attack story. Did Trump rape someone? Does he have an unknown love child? The media hasn't finished Trump and there's no time left. Something....something big, has to drop soon. They're out of time.

One other thing Rush mentioned about polls & allegations of voter fraud was the 2004 election where exit polls had Al Gore winning. So convinced of the exit polls results, AG supposedly claimed voter fraud.

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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
I've been over at the political forums. The main theme is.....

As we stand now, Trump is either tied or slightly leading in all credible nationwide polls. He also is slightly leading in enough battleground states to win the election. So.....

The mainstream media has no choice but to drop at least one more major attack story. Did Trump rape someone? Does he have an unknown love child? The media hasn't finished Trump and there's no time left. Something....something big, has to drop soon. They're out of time.

This election season it's just as likely or more likely that the next big thing to drop will be coming from the side of DJT. Gone are the ball-less days of McCain & Romney.

Out of time? There are 17 full days left (excluding today and the 8th). That's about 2-5 shit storms worth of time. I'm not worried, nor think they're done fucking around, whether that's measured in one attempt or eleven. I suspect they'll try up until the vote itself.

Great crowd in Johnstown, Pennsylvania

One nice thing about the brooha over Trump's refusal to accept the election results is that if he wins,Hillary won't be able to challenge the results either now that she has staked out this position that it is "wrong" to not accept it. She will be stuck.

^^^^^^^^

Don't kid yourself.

She doesn't care one wit what she publicly stated days prior. The Dems certainly don't. Right now, they are making it up as they go along.

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Originally posted by rekstrom:
One nice thing about the brooha over Trump's refusal to accept the election results is that if he wins,Hillary won't be able to challenge the results either now that she has staked out this position that it is "wrong" to not accept it. She will be stuck.

Her word means absolutely nothing.The witch would fight until a wooden stake is driven into her heart.