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Where do I get one of those?




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Originally posted by parabellum:
Inauguration Day is Friday, January 20th, 2017. Cool

http://www.timeanddate.com/cou...ur=&min=&sec=&p0=179

Seventy days until the end of the worst presidency ever.


It was kinda depressing when we put this up in our office area there were over 300 days - it's getting good now, I'm starting to feel it!!



Is that until midnight on the 20th or noon EST?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
I sent Eric Ericson this note. His ratings are so far down in the toilet, that I am one of the only commenters on his site.

Either he or one of his staff will read it, or not, but I know my feelings reflect many thousands of others with his direct attempt to sabotage the election over some butthurt he got from Trump.

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You insulted people like myself and I along with MANY thousands of others, we will continue to lobby WSB for your removal. Your reputation is ruined and you have only yourself to blame. There are not enough crows in existence for you to eat to ever regain our trust. I for one am convinced you were lobbying FOR Hillary.

Remember when you were MOCKING us, Erick? I'm sure you do. You psychologically abused us and now just like any other abuser, you are trying to just move past the damage. We want a divorce from you. Get out. You are NOT a prophet from god like you thought you were. Remember that? We do. Just because you got a Juris Doctorate doesn't mean you are better than us. You have been smug, arrogant, sanctimonious, condescending and rude. It should cost you your spot. The damage is irreversible and the majority who are silent, just like happened in the election are thinking what I have the courage to say to you.


Thank you Mars
That SOB made me cut my radio off anytime he came on,can't stand this prick.
 
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A question on the electoral count:

Trump is shown with 279 without Michigan and Arizona. Both states reported as 100% counted so why their EC numbers are not reflected in Trump's total?

If added, he should have 306. This is important as we need buffer against any GOP shenanigans during the Dec 19th EC voting.
 
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Originally posted by JALLEN:
Is that until midnight on the 20th or noon EST?


I'm not sure - I think the guy who programmed it may be off on the exact hour of the inauguration, the day count should be correct though Smile



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Thanks, sdy




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Just a little reminder for the transition team - please recall all the grace and inclusiveness shown by the other side in the initial meeting between the President and the top Senate and House minority leaders, and be sure not to break from that precedent - it is important that the nation see continuity of principles..


Obama to GOP: 'I won'

By CAROL E. LEE and JONATHAN MARTIN 01/23/09 01:25 PM EST Updated 01/24/09 12:37 AM EST

President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning - but he also left no doubt about who's in charge of these negotiations. "I won," Obama noted matter-of-factly, according to sources familiar with the conversation.

The exchange arose as top House and Senate Republicans expressed concern to the president about the amount of spending in the package. They also raised red flags about a refundable tax credit that returns money to those who don’t pay income taxes, the sources said.

http://www.politico.com/story/...-to-gop-i-won-017862



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Originally posted by 6guns:
Where do I get one of those?


We've had that clock around for more than 10 years - we use it when someone announces their retirement date we put it in their office for them. I see sdy found some more consumer/price friendly ones Smile

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Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
A question on the electoral count:

Trump is shown with 279 without Michigan and Arizona. Both states reported as 100% counted so why their EC numbers are not reflected in Trump's total?

If added, he should have 306. This is important as we need buffer against any GOP shenanigans during the Dec 19th EC voting.


Those states have not certified the results yet. The vote totals are too close, with enough provisional or absentee votes left to be counted that could sway it the other way.



“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams
 
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https://www.archives.gov/feder...l-college/roles.html

December 19, 2016 —Meeting of Electors:
The electors in each State meet

The electors sign, seal and certify the packages of electoral votes and immediately send them to the Federal and State officials

December 28, 2016 —Deadline for Receipt of Electoral Votes:
The President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States, and other designated Federal and State officials must have the electoral votes in hand.

January 6, 2017 —Counting Electoral Votes in Congress:
The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes (unless Congress passes a law to change the date).
 
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Arizona : Trump is ahead by about 84,000 votes

http://www.12news.com/news/pol...in-arizona/349744278

1:11 a.m. Wed

According to officials with the Arizona Secretary of State's Office, there are "a lot" of ballots left to be counted.

The Maricopa County Recorder's office said there were about 170,000 left to be tabulated in the county. They do not know how many early ballots were dropped off at the polls and they do not know how many provisional ballots remain.

There likely will not be more ballots counted Wednesday as officials determine where to go from here. More information on races will come in on Thursday.
 
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A CBS News' correspondent's self diagnosis of his industry's illness:

Commentary: The unbearable smugness of the press

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/co...ntial-election-2016/

By Will Rahn CBS News November 10, 2016, 6:00 AM



The mood in the Washington press corps is bleak, and deservedly so.

It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that, with a few exceptions, we were all tacitly or explicitly #WithHer, which has led to a certain anguish in the face of Donald Trump’s victory. More than that and more importantly, we also missed the story, after having spent months mocking the people who had a better sense of what was going on.

This is all symptomatic of modern journalism’s great moral and intellectual failing: its unbearable smugness. Had Hillary Clinton won, there’s be a winking “we did it” feeling in the press, a sense that we were brave and called Trump a liar and saved the republic.

So much for that. The audience for our glib analysis and contempt for much of the electorate, it turned out, was rather limited. This was particularly true when it came to voters, the ones who turned out by the millions to deliver not only a rebuke to the political system but also the people who cover it. Trump knew what he was doing when he invited his crowds to jeer and hiss the reporters covering him. They hate us, and have for some time.

And can you blame them? Journalists love mocking Trump supporters. We insult their appearances. We dismiss them as racists and sexists. We emote on Twitter about how this or that comment or policy makes us feel one way or the other, and yet we reject their feelings as invalid.

It’s a profound failure of empathy in the service of endless posturing. There’s been some sympathy from the press, sure: the dispatches from “heroin country” that read like reports from colonial administrators checking in on the natives. But much of that starts from the assumption that Trump voters are backward, and that it’s our duty to catalogue and ultimately reverse that backwardness. What can we do to get these people to stop worshiping their false god and accept our gospel?

We diagnose them as racists in the way Dark Age clerics confused medical problems with demonic possession. Journalists, at our worst, see ourselves as a priestly caste. We believe we not only have access to the indisputable facts, but also a greater truth, a system of beliefs divined from an advanced understanding of justice.

You’d think that Trump’s victory – the one we all discounted too far in advance – would lead to a certain newfound humility in the political press. But of course that’s not how it works. To us, speaking broadly, our diagnosis was still basically correct. The demons were just stronger than we realized.

This is all a “whitelash,” you see. Trump voters are racist and sexist, so there must be more racists and sexists than we realized. Tuesday night’s outcome was not a logic-driven rejection of a deeply flawed candidate named Clinton; no, it was a primal scream against fairness, equality, and progress. Let the new tantrums commence!

That’s the fantasy, the idea that if we mock them enough, call them racist enough, they’ll eventually shut up and get in line. It’s similar to how media Twitter works, a system where people who dissent from the proper framing of a story are attacked by mobs of smugly incredulous pundits. Journalists exist primarily in a world where people can get shouted down and disappear, which informs our attitudes toward all disagreement.

Journalists increasingly don’t even believe in the possibility of reasoned disagreement, and as such ascribe cynical motives to those who think about things a different way. We see this in the ongoing veneration of “facts,” the ones peddled by explainer websites and data journalists who believe themselves to be curiously post-ideological.

That the explainers and data journalists so frequently get things hilariously wrong never invites the soul-searching you’d think it would. Instead, it all just somehow leads us to more smugness, more meanness, more certainty from the reporters and pundits. Faced with defeat, we retreat further into our bubble, assumptions left unchecked. No, it’s the voters who are wrong.

As a direct result, we get it wrong with greater frequency. Out on the road, we forget to ask the right questions. We can’t even imagine the right question. We go into assignments too certain that what we find will serve to justify our biases. The public’s estimation of the press declines even further -- fewer than one-in-three Americans trust the press, per Gallup -- which starts the cycle anew.

There’s a place for opinionated journalism; in fact, it’s vital. But our causal, profession-wide smugness and protestations of superiority are making us unable to do it well.

Our theme now should be humility. We must become more impartial, not less so. We have to abandon our easy culture of tantrums and recrimination. We have to stop writing these know-it-all, 140-character sermons on social media and admit that, as a class, journalists have a shamefully limited understanding of the country we cover.

What’s worse, we don’t make much of an effort to really understand, and with too few exceptions, treat the economic grievances of Middle America like they’re some sort of punchline. Sometimes quite literally so, such as when reporters tweet out a photo of racist-looking Trump supporters and jokingly suggest that they must be upset about free trade or low wages.

We have to fix this, and the broken reasoning behind it. There’s a fleeting fun to gang-ups and groupthink. But it’s not worth what we are losing in the process.


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I keep hearing BHO and Clinton's voice on the radio suggesting that ' peaceful transfer of
power is what makes us different from other countries.

The Executive is elected to serve the citizens, not rule.

Its that philosophy written into our Constitution that made us different.

We're about to restore that mindset.


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the post above about the press really nails it.
 
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Meanwhile in Mexico ...



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Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
A question on the electoral count:

Trump is shown with 279 without Michigan and Arizona. Both states reported as 100% counted so why their EC numbers are not reflected in Trump's total?

If added, he should have 306. This is important as we need buffer against any GOP shenanigans during the Dec 19th EC voting.


I see Fox took down their map. They probably got tired of waiting. Maybe the districts around the metro areas are having trouble juggling the numbers to show a Clinton victory.


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the post above about the press really nails it.


It sure does! I've shared it!




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So what are our TOP 10 for items we want Trump to accomplish?

1. Yup build that fucking wall
2. slash .gov budgets, especially Education, EPA, Justice Department
3. Simplify the tax code....flat tax anyone?
4. reduce Corp Tax
5. Destroy ISIS, maybe actually work with Russia on this....we have shared enemies
6. Cut all funding to sanctuary cities.
7. Abolish the VA, let vets use the same DRs we all do
8. Stop this "women in combat units" bullshlacka
9. Find and ram through confirmation Scalia's ideological twin
10. Reach out to the Black community....there is a lot we can do to set up the next elections and this is the first step.

He needs to show those blue dog democrats that voted for him in the rust belt that their vote meant something.

Also he needs to convince our allies and enemies that the "noodle in chief" is gone and there is a new bully on the block.....no more "leading from behind".

Maybe a new take on the Bush doctrine, if you are not with us YOU ARE AGAINST US...and we will blow you up good Big Grin
 
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