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Just checked Paul Ryan's facebook page. 6800 pro trump posts. didn't read a single supportive post. Many included the "go fuck your self" from the pissed off masses.
 
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Bastards at the tsa took my Benchmade Damasteel tactical pen. I was counting on that as part of my edc in Paris. I was able to mail it home though, thank God. But it's just so annoying. First time in over ten flights they didn't let me fly with it, and France is the main reason I bought it! Mad


Is that a new TSA thing? I've never had a problem before.

On topic: from the Daily Express (express.co.uk)

Who do you think won tonight's US Presidential debate?
Trump (1722 votes)
Clinton (361 votes)

Guess the polster's spin peters out somewhere over the Atlantic.




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[QUOTE]Originally posted by bigdeal:
I didn't watch last night, but was curious if the 2A question some of us clicked in support of was actually asked, and how the two candidates responded to it?


it came up in context of SCOTUS appointments.

Trump said it was huge, and he'd look for folks like Scalia to appoint. Hilary listed a bunch of litmus tests for her judges to agree to overthrow, and then said she supports 2A, but we have to close gun show loopholes etc.


Another lie;She despises the 2nd amendment.

[FLASH_VIDEO]it came up in context of SCOTUS appointments. Trump said it was huge, and he'd look for folks like Scalia to appoint. Hilary listed a bunch of litmus tests for her judges to agree to overthrow, and then said she supports 2A, but we have to close gun show loopholes etc. [FLASH_VIDEO] <iframe frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3lP3wjxJwlk?feature=player_embedded" width="640"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]


I don't know what you did there, but nothing I wrote is in the quoted sections.

Someone else wrote all that stuff.

Try to be more careful.


Sorry if I offended you jallen here is your post I was replying to:

https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...830058114#7830058114

I was replying to Clinton's statement that she supported the second amendment, when I said another lie, I was referring to her statements,and I hope you did not think I was referring to your post as a lie. I only copied the portions of your post I wanted to address instead of having readers wade through what looked like several posts that were replied to.


The trouble is nothing in your post is what I wrote. Maybe you were replying to the post I replied to. It looks to the casual observer that I said the things in the post. In this case, it probably makes no difference, but often times, it does.




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When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

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Bastards at the tsa took my Benchmade Damasteel tactical pen. I was counting on that as part of my edc in Paris. I was able to mail it home though, thank God. But it's just so annoying. First time in over ten flights they didn't let me fly with it, and France is the main reason I bought it! Mad


Is that a new TSA thing? I've never had a problem before.



I've never had a problem before either. The lady actually gave me crap about my surefire defender as well, but ultimately let me have it. Roll Eyes

Anyway, back on topic...


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Trump crowd is very loud & enthusiastic in Wilkes-Barre, PA

Strong speech by Sen Sessions

http://www.breitbart.com/video...ump-wilkes-barre-pa/

Giuliani up now

745 pm ET Trump is talking now
 
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Bastards at the tsa took my Benchmade Damasteel tactical pen. I was counting on that as part of my edc in Paris. I was able to mail it home though, thank God. But it's just so annoying. First time in over ten flights they didn't let me fly with it, and France is the main reason I bought it! Mad


Is that a new TSA thing? I've never had a problem before.



I've never had a problem before either. The lady actually gave me crap about my surefire defender as well, but ultimately let me have it. Roll Eyes

Anyway, back on topic...


We can hope that Trump will get rid of the TSA. "You're fired" to all of them.


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After 10 years of membership-in-good-standing, or a rather memorable post/contribution, the mods award members a CUT of their choosing.


Or if you make Para laugh so hard he almost pees himself




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Classic. Today in Detroit at a "rally", while Hillary speaks of Trumps imaginary hatred of women and blacks, a black protestor reveals a Billy Rape T shirt. At the very beginning of the video, he gets pushed to the ground, and escorted out surrounded by a chorus of boos. Her cackles and laugh is creepy. And if this happened at a Trump rally, he would be called out as a racist.

Guess what Hil; Billy's rape shit ain't going away.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEoPiIbNCWo



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“We’re going to win so much. You’re going to get tired of winning. You’re going to say, ‘Please, Mr. President, I have a headache. Please, don’t win so much,’” he vowed.
 
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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bigdeal:
I didn't watch last night, but was curious if the 2A question some of us clicked in support of was actually asked, and how the two candidates responded to it?


it came up in context of SCOTUS appointments.

Trump said it was huge, and he'd look for folks like Scalia to appoint. Hilary listed a bunch of litmus tests for her judges to agree to overthrow, and then said she supports 2A, but we have to close gun show loopholes etc.


Another lie;She despises the 2nd amendment.

[FLASH_VIDEO]it came up in context of SCOTUS appointments. Trump said it was huge, and he'd look for folks like Scalia to appoint. Hilary listed a bunch of litmus tests for her judges to agree to overthrow, and then said she supports 2A, but we have to close gun show loopholes etc. [FLASH_VIDEO] <iframe frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3lP3wjxJwlk?feature=player_embedded" width="640"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]


I don't know what you did there, but nothing I wrote is in the quoted sections.

Someone else wrote all that stuff.

Try to be more careful.


Sorry if I offended you jallen here is your post I was replying to:

https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...830058114#7830058114

I was replying to Clinton's statement that she supported the second amendment, when I said another lie, I was referring to her statements,and I hope you did not think I was referring to your post as a lie. I only copied the portions of your post I wanted to address instead of having readers wade through what looked like several posts that were replied to.


The trouble is nothing in your post is what I wrote. Maybe you were replying to the post I replied to. It looks to the casual observer that I said the things in the post. In this case, it probably makes no difference, but often times, it does.


OK Jallen here is the whole post so there will not be any confusion!

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:

quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
I didn't watch last night, but was curious if the 2A question some of us clicked in support of was actually asked, and how the two candidates responded to it?



it came up in context of SCOTUS appointments.

Trump said it was huge, and he'd look for folks like Scalia to appoint. Hilary listed a bunch of litmus tests for her judges to agree to overthrow, and then said she supports 2A, but we have to close gun show loopholes etc.



Of course she supports the Second Amendment. She just doesn't think you ought to be able to have guns.


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Bastards at the tsa took my Benchmade Damasteel tactical pen. I was counting on that as part of my edc in Paris. I was able to mail it home though, thank God. But it's just so annoying. First time in over ten flights they didn't let me fly with it, and France is the main reason I bought it! Mad


Can you buy something similar once there?



“We’re going to win so much. You’re going to get tired of winning. You’re going to say, ‘Please, Mr. President, I have a headache. Please, don’t win so much,’” he vowed.
 
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There's a bunch of "poll" manipulation going on today to try to help Hitlery deliver the knockout punch she couldn't deliver last night at the debate. NBC and the WSJ radically changed their polling methodology today to assure a high percentage of those sampled would be Hitlery supporters. Their results are garbage and definitely not statistically significant.



Can you give me specifics? I haven't followed their polls or methodologies, but did note from the various polls Realclearpolitics was citing about the PA senate election that the only ones that had McGinty winning were the ones with the smallest sample size.

I wouldn't doubt it for a second, but I'd like to know what methodologies were changed.


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Her cackles and laugh is creepy. And if this happened at a Trump rally, he would be called out as a racist.

Guess what Hil; Billy's rape shit ain't going away.


Can't wait for Nov 7th.
 
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And the award for the most desperate attempt to explain away why Hillary got her ass kicked goes to:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/...-shot-145130698.html

If you don't want to click on it and add to their traffic, what they say is that Hillary could have just destroyed Trump-- destroyed him!-- but, see, she chose not to do so just to keep him ON THE TICKET! Get it? It was just brilliant of Hillary! She knows he can't possibly win, and she didn't want somebody else stepping in to the slot, so she held back.

Really. That's what Ol' Hillary did. And it was brilliant!

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At the risk of meeting the same fate as our great esteemed member from PDX, just what exactly is the MSM trying to accomplish? Suppress turnout from the right? Attempt to encourage turnout and enthusiasm from the left so it doesn't look so dismal? At some point you just look at all the BS and shake your head in bewilderment. Is this their plan?


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I read the Mises Institute a lot. They are libertarian and appear to me to be pretty unbiased with respect to Trump and Clinton. They give Trump a fair, educated shake. Their opinion on why his idea to prosecute Hillary has merit and is worth the read.
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Why Hillary Clinton Is Not Like Edward Snowden

Last night’s presidential debate was the latest episode in what appears to be a prolonged infomercial for Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s Democracy: The God that Failed. One of the rare libertarian highlights of the 2016 campaign, however, came when Donald Trump called for a special prosecutor in the case of Hillary Clinton’s unprecedented recklessness with her private e-mail server. While this issue obviously is minor in the face of America’s insane monetary policy, or horrific foreign policy, a key tenant of any libertarian society is the idea of a rule of law, rather than the law of rulers.

As such, it’s astonishing to see Will Wilkinson of the nominally libertarian Niskanen Center describe Trump’s suggestion as “dictator talk.” Explains Wilkinson:

t’s not Mr. Trump’s open contempt for the norms of liberal democracy that made my blood run cold. It was the applause that came after. It is the fact that it’s no longer assured that you automatically lose a presidential debate in which you promise to jail your political rival.

If it will help warm Mr. Wilkinson up, I would suggest that the reason Mr. Trump’s statement was met with great applause — not only in the debate room but on social media worldwide — is not simply that Secretary Clinton is Trump’s “political rival,” but that she is a perfect example of obscene political privilege.

As Judge Andrew Napolitano has explained numerous times, it is clear that there exists enough publicly available information to indict Hillary Clinton. As he wrote in the immediate aftermath of the FBI announcing its decision to not prosecute:

How hairsplitting can the FBI be in acknowledging “extreme carelessness” while denying “gross negligence” about the same events, at the same time, and in the same respect?

…The espionage statute that criminalizes the knowing or grossly negligent failure to keep state secrets in a secure venue is the rare federal statute that can be violated and upon which a conviction may be based without the need of the government to prove intent.


The Judge went on to give examples of the DOJ going after less politically important citizens for intelligence violations of arguably far less severity:

Thus, in the past two years, the DOJ has prosecuted a young sailor for sending a single selfie to his girlfriend that inadvertently showed a submarine sonar screen in its background. It also prosecuted a Marine lieutenant who sent his military superiors a single email about the presence of al-Qaida operatives dressed as local police in a U.S. encampment in Afghanistan — but who inadvertently used his Gmail account rather than his secure government account.

And it famously prosecuted Gen. David Petraeus for sharing paper copies of his daily calendar in his guarded home with a military colleague also in the home — someone who had a secret security clearance herself — because the calendar inadvertently included secret matters in the pages underneath the calendar.


Given the overwhelming evidence that the FBI treated Hillary Clinton differently than those less politically privileged, is it not fair for a future presidential administration to re-open the case? After all, given the revelation that President Obama himself emailed Clinton’s private server opening himself up to his own scrutiny, is it outrageous to suggest that an investigation by Obama’s FBI and Obama’s Department of Justice of a former Obama Cabinet Official may be worth an additional review? Especially given the obvious breaches of protocol. Just as libertarians are right to question past criminal convictions in the face of conflicting evidence, are libertarians not justified in asking for a fresh look at Clinton’s behavior?

While I think the answer to this question is obvious, a more interesting one is the issue of whether libertarians object to Clinton’s behavior at all. Can one argue in defense of someone like Ed Snowden, who revealed government classified information, while simultaneously condemning Clinton?

The answer is, if course, yes.

After all, a key part of any libertarian judicial theory is the enforcement of contracts. While many government “contracts” require some form of coercion and can be dismissed as illegitimate, Hillary Clinton voluntarily accepted the position of Secretary of State. She then voluntarily signed a document acknowledging the responsibilities she had with classified information, as well as the penalties that went along with it. And then she violated that contract. Be it a world of state or private governance, such action carries with it consequences.

Of course, Snowden violated his own agreements with the government. But there is obvious legal precedent for whistleblower protection, and in his case he broke his contract with the government in order to highlight the institution’s own violation of the law. Regardless of whether one believes Secretary Clinton’s admission that her actions were for the sake of “convenience,” or whether she had a greater agenda, one thing is clear: Hillary Clinton was not playing the role of whistleblower.

In an election year where libertarians have reason to fear every candidate on the ballot, public calls for Hillary Clinton to be held accountable for her obvious violations of the law are a rare bright spot. As more Americans come to realize that the real interest of DC is to serve itself, and not the public, the easier it is to have public discussion about serious solutions such as secession.

May more politicians in Washington face the sound of cheers at the suggestion they be held legally culpable for their actions.
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https://mises.org/blog/why-hil...n-not-edward-snowden


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So, what we've come to is this: The potential for a Dewey Defeats Truman event that will make the original look like a high school play.

The number of people who are- with complete and utter confidence- predicting a Trump loss as an absolute certainty (with much of this coming directly and very publicly from the candidate's own party, most bizarrely) is such that the embarrassment and excuse-making and blame-hurling will rise to such a volume that it makes the history books if they are wrong and Trump wins.
Decades from now, children will learn in school the sad poems and soulful ballads that will be written by the overwrought commies. Old hippies won't be able to talk about it. They'll get all misty eyed and look away.

 
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Glenn Beck is smoking crack now. "Electing Hillary is the moral choice." Dude needs to be in a jacket locked in a padded room.
 
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Good point


having trouble with the quotation function as of late.



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