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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

That article didn't exactly make me feel warm and fuzzy about Trump.


Rush took basically a similar notion that Trump would not be bashful and would unleash a torrent Hillary's way about her scandals, incompetence, and dishonesty (to include criminal behavior). His take was that it would resonant with the vast majority who are sick of corruption and dishonesty which are the keywords describing the Klinton Krime Family.



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Perhaps I am too young, or just did not pay attention, but was there ever a time in history when the Republican leaders were so dead set against the leading vote getter in the Republican primary, as they are now?


Yes they tried to derail Reagan big time.



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The Clinton campaign now has an official woman card



How pathetic.


adding:

ABC estimating Trump at 996 delegates. The bump is mainly due to the addition of PA unbound delegates who said they will vote for who won their congressional district.
 
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

That article didn't exactly make me feel warm and fuzzy about Trump.


Rush took basically a similar notion that Trump would not be bashful and would unleash a torrent Hillary's way about her scandals, incompetence, and dishonesty (to include criminal behavior). His take was that it would resonant with the vast majority who are sick of corruption and dishonesty which are the keywords describing the Klinton Krime Family.


Uhh, did you read the article? The author basically makes the case that Trump can beat Hillary, not only because he'll attack her relentlessly, but because he'll move decidedly left of center.


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Uhh, did you read the article? The author basically makes the case that Trump can beat Hillary, not only because he'll attack her relentlessly, but because he'll move decidedly left of center.


Of course. I said Rush took a similar notion which was to attack winning hearts and minds. I did NOT say anything about Trump moving to the left nor did Rush.



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Big turnout at Trump's rally in California (Costa Mesa). I read where folks that showed up 2hrs prior still couldn't get in:

 
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If Trump moves left of center he will lose. He is already on thin ice with GOP voters who can't stand him, but would suck it up in November. I think that would be the last straw for a lot of people. He needs to strengthen his ties to the GOP base not destroy it.
 
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If Trump moves left of center he will lose. He is already on thin ice with GOP voters who can't stand him, but would suck it up in November. I think that would be the last straw for a lot of people. He needs to strengthen his ties to the GOP base not destroy it.

Who, in particular, about what - in particular? (specific issues, specific groups)
 
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Perhaps I am too young, or just did not pay attention, but was there ever a time in history when the Republican leaders were so dead set against the leading vote getter in the Republican primary, as they are now?

Not in my lifetime. They were ALL on the take.


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CBS: Yes, Donald Trump can beat Hillary Clinton

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That article didn't exactly make me feel warm and fuzzy about Trump.


I only read about 1/2 of the article and decided that it was intended to do damage to Trump's campaign and quit reading.

GOPe drones at work.


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Originally posted by Himiko:
Perhaps I am too young, or just did not pay attention, but was there ever a time in history when the Republican leaders were so dead set against the leading vote getter in the Republican primary, as they are now?


Trump was defending Mitch McConnell yesterday and was heartily endorsed by Boehner today. Chris Christie, Scott Brown, Rick Scott, Sarah Palin, Jeff Sessions and Ben Carson are campaigning for him. Which leaders are you referring to?
I don't think I'd consider, "I'd rather vote for him than Lucifer" as an endorsement.


http://www.stanforddaily.com/2...tion-time-in-office/

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Boehner described other Republican candidates as friends. In particular, he said he has played golf with Donald Trump for years and that they were “texting buddies.”

Boehner for the most part accepted Trump as the presumptive Republican nominee, though he did express his surprise at the candidate’s success. While he did not praise Trump’s policies, the former Speaker did say he would vote for Trump in the general election if he becomes the Republican nominee. He said he would not, however, vote for Cruz.


Trump has been an insider/donor for years. The establishment despise Cruz because he is a conservative and stands for his beliefs. The only reservation they have with Trump is that they can't control him - but being a northeastern liberal they feel like he won't do as much damage to the progressive cause in the long run.

The reality is that Trump is your Republican nominee and Hillary is your Democrat nominee. The race is over and that's the field unless you count Gary Johnson as well.


I guess that all the proof of Cruz's lies and other stuff should be tossed out because he professes to be conservative.

IIRC, Cruz has said repeatedly that he does not know Boehner, never had any dealings with him.

WRONG!

There was a pretty big case some years ago apparently headed up by Boehner. And Cruz was a leading attorney working that case. So, does Cruz have a bad memory or is he lying, again?


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"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. "
-Thomas Jefferson

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If Trump moves left of center he will lose. He is already on thin ice with GOP voters who can't stand him, but would suck it up in November. I think that would be the last straw for a lot of people. He needs to strengthen his ties to the GOP base not destroy it.
Listen, most people following this thread know what you want to happen. Maybe you'll get what you want, which is Trump to be defeated because he's not Ted Cruz and he makes you feel all icky.

The "last straw"? You're not paying attention to what's going on. Statements like that prove it. It might be a good idea to spritz a little bit of Windex on your crystal ball.

Maybe Trump can get some lessons on "being presidential" from Barack Obama on inauguration day.
 
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Did anyone catch Cruz on Megyn Kelly last night? It was entertaining to say the least.

Kelly asked him about the Boehner comments and Cruz quickly spun it into yet another attack on Trump and then seemed to refuse to answer another question about his delegates as he continued to attack Trump. Their conservation soon got heated as they each tried to talk over the other.

My point is that I am seeing a big shift in Megyn ever since her meeting with Trump a while back. In the old days she would have just let Cruz ramble on yet she would have none of it last night.



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Any day now, Trump's gonna run out of steam. Yep, the next thing he says will be enough to end his campaign. People have had enough!!

Aaaaaaany day now. You just watch. Yep.
 
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Originally posted by Ackks:He needs to strengthen his ties to the GOP base not destroy it.


Which base? No one even knows who belongs to that mythical group, yet candidates are told they must pander to it.
 
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Those drinking the Cruz flavored Kool-aid picked a loser and can't stand the idea that Trump might actually win. But if Hillary gets in you can have something to bitch about for another eight years. Seems like a bitching Republican is a happy Republican.
 
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At last, America First!

4-28-2016

Whether the establishment likes it or not, and it evidently does not, there is a revolution going on in America.

The old order in this capital city is on the way out. America is crossing a great divide, and there is no going back.

Donald Trump’s triumphant march to the nomination in Cleveland, virtually assured by his five-state sweep Tuesday, confirms it, as does his foreign policy address of Wednesday.

Two minutes into his speech before the Center for the National Interest, Trump declared that the “major and overriding theme” of his administration will be – “America first.” Right down the smokestack!

Gutsy and brazen it was to use that phrase, considering the demonization of the great anti-war movement of 1940-41, which was backed by the young patriots John F. Kennedy and his brother Joe, Gerald Ford and Sargent Shriver, and President Hoover and Alice Roosevelt.

Whether the issue is trade, immigration or foreign policy, says Trump, “we are putting the American people first again.” U.S. policy will be dictated by U.S. national interests.

By what he castigated, and what he promised, Trump is repudiating both the fruits of the Obama-Clinton foreign policy and the legacy of Bush Republicanism and neoconservatism.

When Ronald Reagan went home, says Trump, “our foreign policy began to make less and less sense. Logic was replaced with foolishness and arrogance, which ended in one foreign policy disaster after another.”

He lists the results of 15 years of Bush-Obama wars in the Middle East: civil war, religious fanaticism, thousands of Americans killed, trillions of dollars lost, a vacuum created that ISIS has filled.

Is he wrong here? How have all of these wars availed us? Where is the “New World Order” of which Bush I rhapsodized at the U.N.?

Can anyone argue that our interventions to overthrow regimes and erect democratic states in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and Yemen have succeeded and been worth the price we have paid in blood and treasure, and the devastation we have left in our wake?

George W. Bush declared that America’s goal would become “to end tyranny in our world.” An utterly utopian delusion, to which Trump retorts by recalling John Quincy Adams’ views on America: “She goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.”

To the neocons’ worldwide crusade for democracy, Trump’s retort is that it was always a “dangerous idea” to think “we could make Western democracies out of countries that had no experience or interest in becoming Western democracies.”

We are “overextended,” he declared, “We must rebuild our military.” Our NATO allies have been freeloading for half a century. NAFTA was a lousy deal. In running up $4 trillion in trade surpluses since Bush I, the Chinese have been eating our lunch.

This may be rankest heresy to America’s elites, but Trump outlines a foreign policy past generations would have recognized as common sense: Look out for your own country and your own people first.

Instead of calling President Putin names, Trump says he would talk to the Russians to “end the cycle of hostility,” if he can.

“Ronald Reagan must be rolling over in his grave,” sputtered Sen. Lindsey Graham, who quit the race to avoid a thrashing by the Donald in his home state of South Carolina.

But this writer served in Reagan’s White House, and the Gipper was always seeking a way to get the Russians to negotiate. He leaped at the chance for a summit with Mikhail Gorbachev in Geneva and Reykjavik.

“Our goal is peace and prosperity, not war,” says Trump, “unlike other candidates, war and aggression will not be my first instinct.”

Is that not an old and good Republican tradition?

Dwight Eisenhower ended the war in Korea and kept us out of any other. Richard Nixon ended the war in Vietnam, negotiated arms agreements with Moscow and made an historic journey to open up Mao’s China.

Reagan used force three times in eight years. He put Marines in Lebanon, liberated Grenada and sent FB-111s over Tripoli to pay Col. Gadhafi back for bombing a Berlin discotheque full of U.S. troops.

Reagan later believed putting those Marines in Lebanon, where 241 were massacred, to be the worst mistake of his presidency.

Military intervention for reasons of ideology or nation building is not an Eisenhower or Nixon or Reagan tradition. It is not a Republican tradition. It is a Bush II-neocon deformity, an aberration that proved disastrous for the United States and the Middle East.

The New York Times headline declared that Trump’s speech was full of “Paradoxes,” adding, “Calls to Fortify Military and to Use It Less.”

But isn’t that what Reagan did? Conduct the greatest military buildup since Ike, then, from a position of strength, negotiate with Moscow a radical reduction in nuclear arms?

“We’re getting out of the nation-building business,” says Trump.

“The nation-state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony.” No more surrenders of sovereignty on the altars of “globalism.”

Is that not a definition of a patriotism that too many among our arrogant elites believe belongs to yesterday?
 
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Originally posted by Ackks:He needs to strengthen his ties to the GOP base not destroy it.


Which base? No one even knows who belongs to that mythical group, yet candidates are told they must pander to it.


Bingo. The gig is up, word is out. All of us who voted for Republicans because it was the lessor of two evils are not all mythical conservatives. Just because we were forced to pick from bad or worse doesn't mean we like or worship the GOP.


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Originally posted by Ackks:He needs to strengthen his ties to the GOP base not destroy it.


Which base? No one even knows who belongs to that mythical group, yet candidates are told they must pander to it.


Bingo. The gig is up, word is out. All of us who voted for Republican because it was the lessor of two evils are not all mythical conservatives. Just because we were forced to picked from bad or worse doesn't mean we like or worship the GOP.


It seems as if the "base" is speaking out, one vote at a time for Trump by a wide margin.




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In the "news you get only from outside the country" department, it seems that hundreds of demonstrators at a Trump rally yesterday waved Mexican flags, attacked police cars, and bloodied Trump supporters. (See the photos of Trump supporters who were attacked.)

When something like this happens, The Daily Mail covers it. If a Trump supporter punches a protestor, it is on a loop 24/7 on every news outlet.

But let them keep on waving Mexican flags and attacking Trump supporters. By November, Trump will win in a landslide. You don't have to be a "right wing extremist" to be pissed off by protestors waving Mexican flags, attacking the police, and shouting "Fuck America!"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...a.html#ixzz47CQmO7Q9


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