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what Rove and the RINO's don't understand is we DO NOT NEED DEALS

what we need is PRINCIPLES

a backbone would be nice so that those are not always compromised at the drop of a hat



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Cruz just violated all precedent and got on the Senate floor to call out McConnell for his deceit and corruption.

As much as I think Cruz is full of shit, he did have one good point - there's nothing uncivil about telling the truth.
 
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I speak jive.
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whatever value "Washington insiders" ever had has fallen to the wayside, to say the least.

an outsider, the antithesis of a career politician, is an incredibly valuable asset.
 
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As had been said before the longer Trump sticks around the better. He has basically forged the establishment Republicans and the Democrats into the same party for everyone to visibly see. They both stand united against him.

Walker was stupid for name calling him. Thats a sure way to lose traction and Walker didn't have much to begin with.

The first debate will be a real harbinger of how long Trump is going to last. If he does well and comes off as prepared and knowledgeable of the issues and can debate with the rest he is going to really shake things up going forward.

On the other hand....It will be pure entertainment! Smile


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As much as I think Cruz is full of shit ...


Just curious how you think that?





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The first debate will be a real harbinger of how long Trump is going to last. If he does well and comes off as prepared and knowledgeable of the issues and can debate with the rest he is going to really shake things up going forward.

Yep.... and the GOP would be absolutely foolish to try to block him from participating.



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As much as I think Cruz is full of shit ...


Just curious how you think that?

I've discussed it at length elsewhere.
 
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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

As much as I think Cruz is full of shit ...


Just curious how you think that?

I've discussed it at length elsewhere.


Cliff notes version?

I searched your posts but it doesn't show your views on Cruz easily.





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I'd be interested to know as well.


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Thats a sure way to lose traction and Walker didn't have much to begin with.

Confused

He's 2nd or 3rd in the national polls despite doing essentially nothing as far as campaigning.

I'd say he's got plenty of traction.


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Cliff notes version?

I searched your posts but it doesn't show your views on Cruz easily.

I hear you, but I'm trying to stay out of the shit on the board until we get a little closer to the election. Those conversations have gone haywire pretty quickly. I'd be happy to send you a short version if you'll send me an email at the address in my profile.
 
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Cliff notes version?

I searched your posts but it doesn't show your views on Cruz easily.

I hear you, but I'm trying to stay out of the shit on the board until we get a little closer to the election. Those conversations have gone haywire pretty quickly. I'd be happy to send you a short version if you'll send me an email at the address in my profile.


Classy, open mouth then say I don't want to talk about it.

Fact is every time shit comes up you sound like a establishment GOP press secretary.

Fuck the establishment.


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I predicted a few days ago that Trump, who has more ex-wive's then everyone else put together, would start coming under attack with gossipy stuff, and sure enough, an allegation of taping his then wife from back in the divorce days.

Remember the guy who tried to run against Obama for Senator?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Remember the guy who tried to run against Obama for Senator?

Alan Keyes.

Great guy and a real conservative. Sadly, being thrust into that race at the last minute, he didn't have a chance.


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Remember the guy who tried to run against Obama for Senator?

Alan Keyes.

Great guy and a real conservative. Sadly, being thrust into that race at the last minute, he didn't have a chance.

I think he means Jack Ryan who won the primary but then the dirt came out and he stepped down to to be replaced by Alan Keyes.

Trump is more like a democrat in these matters. He deflects and deals with these things like he did with this "rape" accusation. It didn't get anywhere other than the reporter for the Daily Beast likely dealing with a law suit.
Trump will make all the media entities spend money on attorneys when they tread this path.


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Could Trump Win?

The American political class has failed the country, and should be fired. That is the clearest message from the summer surge of Bernie Sanders and the remarkable rise of Donald Trump.

Sanders’ candidacy can trace it roots back to the 19th-century populist party of Mary Elizabeth Lease who declaimed:

“Wall Street owns the country. It is no longer a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, but a government of Wall Street, by Wall Street, and for Wall Street. The great common people of this country are slaves, and monopoly is the master.”



“Raise less corn and more hell!” Mary admonished the farmers of Kansas.

William Jennings Bryan captured the Democratic nomination in 1896 by denouncing the gold standard beloved of the hard money men of his day: “You shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns, you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold.”

Sanders is in that tradition, if not in that league as an orator. His followers, largely white, $50,000-a-year folks with college degrees, call to mind more the followers of George McGovern than Jennings Bryan.

Yet the stagnation of workers’ wages as the billionaire boys club admits new members, and the hemorrhaging of U.S. jobs under trade deals done for the Davos-Doha crowd, has created a blazing issue of economic inequality that propels the Sanders campaign.

Between his issues and Trump’s there is overlap. Both denounce the trade deals that deindustrialized America and shipped millions of jobs off to Mexico, Asia and China. But Trump has connected to an even more powerful current.

That is the issue of uncontrolled and illegal immigration, the sense America’s borders are undefended, that untold millions of lawbreakers are in our country, and more are coming. While most come to work, they are taking American jobs and consuming tax dollars, and too many come to rob, rape, murder and make a living selling drugs.

Moreover, the politicians who have talked about this for decades are a pack of phonies who have done little to secure the border.

Trump boasts that he will get the job done, as he gets done all other jobs he has undertaken. And his poll ratings are one measure of how far out of touch the Republican establishment is with the Republican heartland.

When Trump ridicules his rivals as Lilliputians and mocks the celebrity media, the Republican base cheers and laughs with him.

He is boastful, brash, defiant, unapologetic, loves campaigning, and is putting on a great show with his Trump planes and 100-foot-long stretch limos. “Every man a king but no man wears a crown,” said Huey Long. “I’m gonna make America great again,” says Donald.

Compared to Trump, all the other candidates, including Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush, are boring. He makes politics entertaining, fun.

Trump also benefits from the perception that his rivals and the press want him out of the race and are desperately seizing upon any gaffe to drive him out. The piling on, the abandonment of Trump by the corporate elite, may have cost him a lot of money. But it also brought him support he would not otherwise have had.

For no group of Americans has been called more names than the base of the GOP. The attacks that caused the establishment to wash its hands of Trump as an embarrassment brought the base to his defense.

But can Trump win?

If his poll numbers hold, Trump will be there six months from now when the Sweet 16 is cut to the Final Four, and he will likely be in the finals. For if Trump is running at 18 or 20 percent nationally then, among Republicans, it is hard to see how two rivals beat him.

For Trump not to be in the hunt as the New Hampshire primary opens, his campaign will have to implode, as Gary Hart’s did in 1987, and Bill Clinton’s almost did in 1992.

Thus, in the next six months, Trump will have to commit some truly egregious blunder that costs him his present following. Or the dirt divers of the media and “oppo research” arms of the other campaigns will have to come up with some high-yield IEDs.

Presidential primaries are minefields for the incautious, and Trump is not a cautious man. And it is difficult to see how, in a two-man race against the favorite of the Republican establishment, he could win enough primaries, caucuses and delegates to capture 50 percent of the convention votes.

For almost all of the candidates who will have dropped out by then will have endorsed the last man standing against Trump. And should Trump be nominated, his candidacy would make Barry Goldwater look like the great uniter of the GOP.

Still, who expected Donald Trump to be in the catbird seat in the GOP nomination run before the first presidential debate? And even his TV antagonists cannot deny he has been great for ratings.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...7-28/could-trump-win



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Trump will make all the media entities spend money on attorneys when they tread this path.


Trouble is that now, as a public figure running for office , Trump has almost no protection for libel and slander, and similar actions that the rest of us enjoy.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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We just knew this was going to happen…
Donald Trump is a threat to the Democratic Party and they KNOW IT!

“Lets stump for Donald Trump: he is the only one that will secure that damn border”

Donald Trump is a refreshing voice for anyone who is tired of all the political correctness.
And Donald Trump is a candidate for those who seek the American Dream.
It ain’t dead yet.

Two black women released a video this week stumping for Donald Trump.
The title of the video: “WTF These Chumps Better Leave Donald Trump Alone!”



http://www.thegatewaypundit.co...ump-hilarious-video/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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That was one enjoyable video clip!


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Trump will make all the media entities spend money on attorneys when they tread this path.


Trouble is that now, as a public figure running for office , Trump has almost no protection for libel and slander, and similar actions that the rest of us enjoy.


Legal protection, no. But Trump has a razor sharp tongue. He will slice and dice anyone who comes for him. There are so many corrupt elites that they'd be easy pickins if he set his sights on them...and they know he will. That is as effective as Mutually Assured Destruction.

As has been noted earlier in this thread, Trump is serving a valuable and entertaining purpose right now. We are far enough out that he is becoming a third rail that no one wants to touch. Those who do are fried.



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