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I've read nearly every post since the debate last night and one comment I haven't seen, which I think is important, is the image he projected. We all know everyone today is about image, looks...all things superficial. We'll, in my opinion, Trump came off looking very presidential. He never sat down, he walked around the stage confidently as Clinton was talking, looked thoughtful...in short, he appeared to run the debate. I think this image lasting in folks memories is important when they consider their candidate. He is the obvious leader of our country.


This is a good point. Most people don't remember for very long what is said in such an event but they remember how they said it for a long time.

In the first debate, Trump was timid and Hillary seemed to command the event. People remembered that and she was declared the "winner."

Different outcome last night. Trump was the one who seemed to control the proceedings and Hillary was the one who seemed flustered at times. He "won" the debate.

What was said will fade quickly but the way it was said will resonate all the way to November 8th.
 
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I've read nearly every post since the debate last night and one comment I haven't seen, which I think is important, is the image he projected. We all know everyone today is about image, looks...all things superficial. We'll, in my opinion, Trump came off looking very presidential. He never sat down, he walked around the stage confidently as Clinton was talking, looked thoughtful...in short, he appeared to run the debate. I think this image lasting in folks memories is important when they consider their candidate. He is the obvious leader of our country.


That was something notable. Trump never sat down once the whole debate. Hillbag on the other hand sat down every time it wasn't her turn to talk.


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Their "journalist" disguise is totally unmasked.


Like the line about Dennis Rodman in MIB: "Not much of a disguise."



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Trump wanted to put Bill Clinton’s accusers in his family box. Debate officials said no.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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That line he came up with off of the cuff about Honest Abe was brilliant.


It was great. Of all people for Hillary to try to hang duplicity on-- Honest Abe. When a political rival called Lincoln "two faced," Lincoln said, "If I had two faces do you think I'd be wearing this one?"


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he appeared to run the debate. I think this image lasting in folks memories is important when they consider their candidate. He is the obvious leader of our country.


Agree.....along with the image of the real "no fly zone" ....
 
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He called her Hillary last night instead of Secretary. That was a wise move. She doesn't deserve to be called Secretary, especially with her calling him Donald all the time.
 
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Don't forget that whatever the pundits are saying (pundits saying Clinton 'won' the debate), the real people see things exactly opposite.






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Trump doubled and Hillary halved. That seems just about right.


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I didn't watch last night, but was curious if the 2A question some of us clicked in support of was actually asked, and how the two candidates responded to it?


it came up in context of SCOTUS appointments.

Trump said it was huge, and he'd look for folks like Scalia to appoint. Hilary listed a bunch of litmus tests for her judges to agree to overthrow, and then said she supports 2A, but we have to close gun show loopholes etc.



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I didn't watch last night, but was curious if the 2A question some of us clicked in support of was actually asked, and how the two candidates responded to it?

Trump had to bring it up along with HIM bringing up the Constitution during discussion of the supreme court justices, and then the hag lied....
 
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http://www.foxnews.com/politic...ed-line-comment.html

Trump attacked Clinton about the obama "red line" over chemical weapons in Syria.

Clinton response:
“I was gone,”
At some point, we need to do some fact-checking here .”

But, obama said that in 2012 when Clinton was still Sec State

Trump, unaware that Clinton had either made a mistake or attempted to deny any association with the issue, pressed on
 
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Melania has got game... "Unintentional" my ass - a nice big STFU, I'd say.

Melania Trump Trolls Clintons with ‘Pussy Bow’ Blouse at Debate

Melania Trump, wife of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, wore a Gucci blouse to the second presidential debate that is called a “pussy bow.”

The potential First Lady’s wardrobe choice came as her husband faced blistering criticism over a recorded conversation in 2005 in which he joke about groping women. One of the words he used included a crude reference to the female anatomy.

In addition to apologizing several times since the video emerged, Trump alsopointed at former President Bill Clinton’s behavior towards women and the way in which Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton treated his accusers.

Four of those accusers appeared with Trump at a press conference prior to the debate, and were seated in the front row at the debate at Washington University in St. Louis.

The Gucci “pussy-bow” blouse retails at Net-a-Porter.com for $1,100. The site’s editors note: “Pussy-bow shirts are one of Gucci’s signature silhouettes. New for Pre-Fall ’16, this fuchsia style is cut from silk crepe de chine for a languid drape. We think it’s a chic way to elevate office or weekend looks.”

Mrs. Trump matched the blouse with a set of fuchsia slacks. After the debate, Melania Trump greeted Bill Clinton — wearing her pussy-bow, of course. The Clintons attended the Trumps’ wedding several years ago, long before their political rivalry emerged.

Social media exploded after the debate with speculation about Mrs. Trump’s blouse. “If Melania Trump is trolling us, this would be the sickest thing ever. I detest conspiracy theories, but a man can still dream,” wrote Sky Palma of Deadstate.

A Trump campaign spokesperson reportedly said that Mrs. Trump’s sartorial choice was “unintentional.”



http://www.breitbart.com/calif...ump-trolls-clintons/



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Originally posted by bigdeal:
I didn't watch last night, but was curious if the 2A question some of us clicked in support of was actually asked, and how the two candidates responded to it?


it came up in context of SCOTUS appointments.

Trump said it was huge, and he'd look for folks like Scalia to appoint. Hilary listed a bunch of litmus tests for her judges to agree to overthrow, and then said she supports 2A, but we have to close gun show loopholes etc.


Of course she supports the Second Amendment. She just doesn't think you ought to be able to have guns.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The REAL news from the debate is the shirt that Melania wore. The twat waffles on social media are all up in arms because she wore a shirt with something called a "pussy bow."
http://www.foxnews.com/enterta...s-unintentional.html
I hope it was intentional.


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Oops! FD beat me to it.


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Ridiculous, and what man who isn't fabulous would know such a thing? Roll Eyes

Let's move on


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Just opened my investment account and Reuters reported the market was up due to Clinton winning the debate. Roll Eyes




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Trump doubled and Hillary halved. That seems just about right.


Many feel this cake is already baked. If so, I'm puzzled by the radical change of the Luntz group. It's statistically insignificant, of course, and I don't know how strongly these folks favored their candidate before the debate, but even if these were fence sitters or close to it, it bodes well.




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My wife had only just heard about Trump's comment and the "controversy" last night when I told her about. When she finally saw the clip (I think Megyn Kelly played it on her show after the debate), my wife said, "that's it? Seriously? In France, that would've probably helped the candidate." Haha.


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