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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:
The audio tape billy bush recorded was without Trumps knowledge. Which is illegal there, right?


This is a point that has received surprisingly (to me, anyway) little attention. I never had enough interest in the crude comment outrage to look into the details but the last time I checked recording a conversation that one is not part of is illegal in all states and under Federal law. It could of course be argued that if Trump addressed his comments to the group at large that B. Bush was part of the conversation, but it would be interesting to know.

Even if the comment was recorded by someone who was involved in the conversation, that’s not necessarily legal in all states unless the person being recorded is aware of the fact and agrees. That’s what got Linda Tripp, the friend of Monica Lewinsky (remember those names, Clinton fans?), in legal trouble. There was plenty of leftist outrage over that unannounced recording that is totally lacking this time.

And legal or not, the morality of the whole thing has largely been ignored, but especially by the left and their surrogates, the mainstream news reporting businesses. If it was okay for the greater good to record and later reveal someone’s offhand comments without his knowledge and consent, then it was certainly okay for others to use leaked information obtained from emails to allow us to develop a true understanding about a different candidate.




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Jon Stewart? That is shocking!


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If it was okay for the greater good to record and later reveal someone’s offhand comments without his knowledge and consent, then it was certainly okay for others to use leaked information obtained from emails to allow us to develop a true understanding about a different candidate.


that's how I see it.

Remember this bullcrap from CNN?? What on earth were they talking about when they were claiming it was Legal for the media, but illegal for everyone else?? Is there some exception in the law for the media??? If so, what makes one part of the media?




Link to original video: https://youtu.be/7DcATG9Qy_A


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An understanding of the "media" requires an in depth understanding that newspukes certainly aren't required to and in my long experience don't take much or any trouble to know what they are talking about.

my best guess is that they take either what 'everybody knows" or what they think 'it should be' and run with it.

I watched a smirking bimbo on fox this morning supposedly interviewing professor on the electoral college; the sum-up comment was, and I paraphrase because I didn't want to listen to her again, but I'm close...so even though Trump lost the vote he can still be president? Roll Eyes

The problem, I guess, is that the electoral college is a little complicated and apparently no one doesn't want to take more that a 70 second google to figure anything out. Result? A steady diet of horse hit from the talking heads.


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Since Suprun's PR firm Megaphone Strategies was just started last July by Van Jones for social justice issues, it makes it suspicious that Suprun may have been bought & paid for.

Christopher Suprun just came out of bankruptcy this year.

Megaphone Strategies:

https://megaphonestrategies.com/

SOLUTIONS BY THE MOVEMENT FOR THE MOVEMENT

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adding: more to the story

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundi...est-headache-for-cnn

CNN, which has just emerged from the backlash of former contributor Donna Brazile providing debate questions to the Hillary Clinton campaign, appears to have a new conflict of interest issue on its hands — this time, with the network's hottest commodity, Van Jones.

But it was revealed on Thursday via a Washington Free Beacon report that Jones is also running a PR firm called Megaphone Strategies that is openly courting Electoral College electors in states across the country to not cast their vote for Trump on Dec. 19.

One of those electors is Chris Suprun

Per the Free Beacon:

"Supron wrote in his Twitter bio to direct all media inquiries to an email address at Megaphone Strategies, a Washington, D.C.-based ‘social justice’ public relations firm.

“Van Jones, a left-wing CNN commentator and former adviser to President Obama who resigned after coming under fire for his affiliation to 9/11 conspiracy theorists and referring to Republicans as ‘assholes,’ founded Megaphone Strategies earlier this year."

" ’We are working with a number of electors on this issue, not just Chris [Suprun], ’” Megaphone's media director, Nina Smith, wrote said in a statement.

For his part, Jones recently spoke about a need to mobilize against the president-elect in large numbers.

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Make ATC great again,




Link to original video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f6RGIi1InuE




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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http://www.politico.com/story/...ape-judiciary-232744

Mitch McConnell’s refusal to confirm many of President Barack Obama’s judicial nominees has set the table for Donald Trump to dramatically reshape the judiciary over the next four years

The Senate GOP confirmed just 20 lifetime judicial appointments to district and appeals courts in its two years in the majority, the lowest number by far in the past 28 years

The Senate left town last week with 99 judicial vacancies covering district and appeals courts, as well as the current Supreme Court opening.

There are 52 Obama nominations to those courts pending, with Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland the most prominent nominee still waiting for action.

Most, if not all of Obama's nominations, will be wiped away next year by Trump and Senate Republicans.
 
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^^^^ LOL ^^^^

"Forget our takeoff time slot, we want to see the Trump plane!

Damn, you got to love that!


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http://www.politico.com/story/...ape-judiciary-232744

Mitch McConnell’s refusal to confirm many of President Barack Obama’s judicial nominees has set the table for Donald Trump to dramatically reshape the judiciary over the next four years

The Senate GOP confirmed just 20 lifetime judicial appointments to district and appeals courts in its two years in the majority, the lowest number by far in the past 28 years

The Senate left town last week with 99 judicial vacancies covering district and appeals courts, as well as the current Supreme Court opening.

There are 52 Obama nominations to those courts pending, with Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland the most prominent nominee still waiting for action.

Most, if not all of Obama's nominations, will be wiped away next year by Trump and Senate Republicans.


This is just juicy.


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Wow, that is the first squared away thing I heard they did. I'll take the win.




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Here are some interesting takes on the hacks and the status quo of the recent past political and inteligencia environment in the us.

To hack or not to hack?
http://stevepieczenik.com/to-hack-or-not-to-hack/

More here.
http://stevepieczenik.com/
 
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It is often what is omitted from the news is more important than what is reported.

Why where the Democrats so vulnerable to hacking?


Because they are incompetent basically. I heard that an FBI agent was warning the DNC IT guy repeatedly in `15 they were getting hacked. The DNC totally below the FBI off. I forget the radio show it was on (Probably Hannity, Rush or Dana) but they know the agent's name and the DNC IT guy's name who blew him off, the story is confirmed.

The RNC had much better security, they weren't hacked according to the same story.




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Most, if not all of Obama's nominations, will be wiped away next year by Trump and Senate Republicans.



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It is often what is omitted from the news is more important than what is reported.

Why where the Democrats so vulnerable to hacking?


Because they are incompetent basically. I heard that an FBI agent was warning the DNC IT guy repeatedly in `15 they were getting hacked. The DNC totally below the FBI off. I forget the radio show it was on (Probably Hannity, Rush or Dana) but they know the agent's name and the DNC IT guy's name who blew him off, the story is confirmed.

The RNC had much better security, they weren't hacked according to the same story.


The DNC thought the FBI agents was a crank call. They didn't bother to check. NOW a spokesman says that the FBI agent should have PHYSICALLY come to the DNC and told them face to face.



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Five problems with the CIA claims. Considering this is a CBS news station, albeit a local affiliate, this is a very refreshing take. From a Ben Swann at "CBS 46".

 
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That was a great clip. Very concise and to the point and that guy is well spoken. That needs some air time nationally.
 
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He's had some good pieces. Including one IIRC on the 2nd Amendment.
 
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The dems have the money to better protect from intrusions. Either they're inept,stupid or arrogant (combinations possible) It could be that they consider themselves so far above the law that it made them lackadaisical. Just like they thought they'd always be in power, and were stunned when they aren't.
 
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That was a great clip. Very concise and to the point and that guy is well spoken. That needs some air time nationally.

I think he will have to go to Fox News to get national coverage. I wonder when CBS corporate will put pressure on the affiliate to muzzle Swann.



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This whole thing is rather humorous.

The claim from the liberals is the Russians influence our election not by hacking into election system computers, but by revealing the truth about the Clintons and the Democratic National Party.



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