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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:

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Originally posted by Jimineer:
Shouldn't Hillary get a participation trophy or something? we should be considerate and get a little something for her. Any ideas?

Ambassador to Libya?

Station, Benghazi

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Originally posted by av8erman:
It's finally the end of the Clinton Era. <snip>

Aw… Chelsa had her heart set on being the second female US President.

Not sure if this has been posted in the 200 pages since last night but man does this end well!

^^^^^^^^^
When he talked about coming home after school, and the TV had the Watergate hearings on instead of the Beverly Hillbillies it was spot on with what I remember, except in my town my friends and I were deprived of watching Hogan's Heroes.

Trump has already made his greatest contribution to this country by keeping the Clintons out of the Whitehouse.

The Math: Trump 2016 Would’ve Beaten O in 2012

It’s easy to glance at Tuesday’s popular vote — which, with 92 percent of all precincts reporting, shows Hillary Clinton with six million fewer votes than Barack Obama won in 2012 – and reach the conclusion that Clinton lost the White House because she failed to turn out the Democratic base. But the truth is much more complicated.

While she underperformed relative to Obama’s 2012 totals in several Midwestern states — Ohio, Michigan, Iowa, and Wisconsin — Clinton ran virtually even with Obama in the battlegrounds of Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Virginia, Nevada, and New Hampshire. What’s more, she far surpassed Obama’s 2012 vote total in Florida, the country’s biggest swing state. Yet somehow, while Obama carried Florida, Clinton lost it.

Which brings us to an important question: Was Donald Trump just good enough to beat a bad Democratic opponent on Tuesday, or does he deserve far more credit? Could he, for instance, have competed with the vaunted Obama machine? The answer, somewhat shockingly, is yes. A review of vote totals in the past two elections reveals that Trump 2016 would have defeated Obama 2012 in the electoral college.

(Disclaimer: This obviously is an apples-to-oranges exercise because no two elections are the same, nor are any two electorates. Still, unlike debating whether the 2016 Cubs would defeat the 1927 Yankees, this is not an entirely abstract argument; a comparison of their respective performances in the country’s most competitive states shows Trump edging Obama in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup.)

The math might seem impossible. After all, Obama won nearly 66 million votes in 2012; Trump is currently at 59.5 million and should finish around 60 million, which will actually be one million fewer votes than Mitt Romney won. How, then, could Trump have topped Obama in the electoral college? The answer: Republican turnout lagged in certain parts of the country but shot through the roof in the nation’s most critical battleground states.

Let’s look at them individually, in descending order by population, and do the electoral-vote math. The 2016 totals aren’t yet final because not all precincts have reported.

FLORIDA — 29 EVs — 98 percent reporting

Obama 2012: 4,235,270

Clinton 2016: 4,485,745


Romney 2012: 4,162,081

Trump 2016: 4,605,515


Conclusion: Trump beats Obama by some 370,000 votes and wins Florida. (Note: Clinton herself won 250,000 more votes in Florida than Obama did in 2012.)


PENNSYLVANIA — 20 EVs — 97 percent reporting

Obama 2012: 2,907,448

Clinton 2016: 2,844,705


Romney 2012: 2,619,583

Trump 2016: 2,912,941


Conclusion: Trump squeezes past Obama by a margin of some 5,000 votes and wins Pennsylvania. (Note: Clinton runs about 60,000 votes behind Obama, but would’ve had more than enough to defeat Romney in 2012.)


OHIO — 18 EVs – 94 percent reporting

Obama 2012: 2,697,260

Clinton 2016: 2,317,001


Romney 2012: 2,593,779

Trump 2016: 2,771,984


Conclusion: Trump edges Obama by roughly 75,000 votes and wins Ohio. (Note: Clinton’s worst battleground state showing was Ohio, winning 380,000 [!] fewer votes than Obama.)


Stop right there and crunch the numbers: Florida (29) + Pennsylvania (20) + Ohio (18) = 67 EVs.

Romney finished with 206 EVs. By protecting all of those, and then taking 67 from Obama, Trump would hit 273 and win the presidency.

The question: Did Trump 2016 defeat Obama 2012 in all of the states Romney won? Yes. Here’s a look at the competitive ones:

– NORTH CAROLINA (98 percent reporting): Trump 2,339,603 … Obama 2,178,388

– ARIZONA (73 percent reporting): Trump 947,284 … Obama 930,669

– GEORGIA (93 percent reporting): Trump 2,068,623 … Obama 1,761,761

– UTAH (78 percent reporting): Trump 360,634 … Obama 229,463

A review of the Romney 2012 states confirms that Trump, in this hypothetical matchup, would have carried every single one against Obama.

It doesn’t matter that Obama would have trounced Trump by nearly 300,000 votes in Michigan; by more than 200,000 in Wisconsin; by 175,000 in Virginia; and by 160,000 in Colorado. It’s similarly meaningless that Obama would have narrowly defeated Trump in Iowa, Nevada, and New Hampshire. The 44th president carried all of those states in 2012, and in this hypothetical contest, he would successfully defend all of them. But it wouldn’t be enough.

The electoral college would produce a razor-thin margin: Trump 273, Obama 265.

Again, this is an apples-to-oranges exercise. It’s impossible to know how the Obama campaign might have targeted certain voters in a contest against Trump, or whether Trump would have the same success in the three big battleground states against a more formidable opponent. But that’s not the point here; the point is that it’s not entirely fair to blame Clinton for depressing Democratic turnout when she ran even with him in five of the country’s most competitive states and ahead of him in a sixth, Florida, the single biggest swing state — and still lost the electoral college.

Starting day two post election. This victory seems to be aging extremely well! I went to bed early last night due to being up into the wee hours of morning on Tuesday. Waking up and realizing DJT pulled this off is just plain nice. Really nice A liberal SCOTUS had me very worried, not so much now.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Not sure if this has been posted in the 200 pages since last night but man does this end well!

[sanctimonious video]

Colbert, you are a direct cause of the problem.

A HUGE part.

You aren't forgiven.

When the torches and pitchforks appear outside your castle, go to the guillotine with dignity.

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Colbert, you are a direct cause of the problem.

Exactly. Standing there preaching tolerance and understanding after how many countless hours of making Rs in general and DJT in particular look like the devil incarnate?

And then has the nerve to be "shocked" that 55% of Democrats "fear" Republicans.

The protests and the cry-baby bullshit and the suicide threats can be laid directly on their doors.

Colbert, Mahr, Shumer, and countless others who use a national stage reserved for comedy and turn it into an hour long informercial on how DJT is the most evil, hateful, baby punching, puppy kicking sonuvabitch to ever walk the earth. (Which is fine, by the way)

But what is not fine is purposely ignoring the faults of your own candidate/party/etc - of which there are many - and relentlessly hounding the faults of the other, you create an image that your chosen candidate is a demigod and the opposition is inescapably evil.

Colbert divides us like a concrete wall, and then stands back and pretends to be sad at how divisive we have become?

Fuck you, Colbert. You ARE the problem.

I sent Eric Ericson this note. His ratings are so far down in the toilet, that I am one of the only commenters on his site.

Either he or one of his staff will read it, or not, but I know my feelings reflect many thousands of others with his direct attempt to sabotage the election over some butthurt he got from Trump.

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You insulted people like myself and I along with MANY thousands of others, we will continue to lobby WSB for your removal. Your reputation is ruined and you have only yourself to blame. There are not enough crows in existence for you to eat to ever regain our trust. I for one am convinced you were lobbying FOR Hillary.

Remember when you were MOCKING us, Erick? I'm sure you do. You psychologically abused us and now just like any other abuser, you are trying to just move past the damage. We want a divorce from you. Get out. You are NOT a prophet from god like you thought you were. Remember that? We do. Just because you got a Juris Doctorate doesn't mean you are better than us. You have been smug, arrogant, sanctimonious, condescending and rude. It should cost you your spot. The damage is irreversible and the majority who are silent, just like happened in the election are thinking what I have the courage to say to you.

Inauguration Day is Friday, January 20th, 2017.

http://www.timeanddate.com/cou...ur=&min=&sec=&p0=179

Seventy days until the end of the worst presidency ever.

A congratulatory letter to President-Elect Trump is in order.

Maybe I'll invite him over for a steak out back, any time he's in Philly.

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Originally posted by m_miller:
Trump has already made his greatest contribution to this country by keeping the Clintons out of the Whitehouse.

Yes indeedy do-do!

I'm not sure anyone else, traditional politicians, could have done this.

They would have yammered on and on about GDP and marginal tax rates, education statistics, new programs and rarely if ever called out Hillary for the worthless greedy crook, criminal and persistent liar (not necessarily in that order) she is, totally unfit to be President or any other office of trust. Trump gave it to Crooked Hillary with both barrels nearly 24/7. The line of the campaign, extemporaneously, "you'd be in jail."

He deserves admiration and respect for that, if nothing else.

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Originally posted by mbinky:
Where are our forum members who were telling us how stupid we were for nominating Trump? How we doomed the country? Hmmmm.....

And not just here. We could not get through a day without their telling us-- on the internet, on the television, on the radio-- that Trump could not possibly win, blah blah blah. Karl Rove, for one, deserves a big cream pie right in the face. Wouldn't you love to see that?

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Originally posted by Woodman:
A congratulatory letter to President-Elect Trump is in order.

Maybe I'll invite him over for a steak out back, any time he's in Philly.

Yeah, I'd have him up here in the sticks for some pulled smoked pork in the back yard. He wouldn't even need the Secret Service for protection around here, but they'd be welcome too, because I always seem to smoke enough pork butt for an army.

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Originally posted by justjoe:

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Originally posted by mbinky:
Where are our forum members who were telling us how stupid we were for nominating Trump? How we doomed the country? Hmmmm.....

And not just here. We could not get through a day without their telling us-- on the internet, on the television, on the radio-- that Trump could not possibly win, blah blah blah. Karl Rove, for one, deserves a big cream pie right in the face. Wouldn't you love to see that?

Other forums can do whatever they wish, but we're not turning on our own in this forum. I don't want to see it. I'd better not see it.

If some member pops up, spoiling for a fight because we supported Trump, that's a different story, but if that happens, I'll tend to it personally. I assure you of that.

what a great day. I got two hours of sleep election night and was delirious yesterday. I literally cant wipe the smile off my face. My Finace went to Vermont for a week for a planned vacation with her best friend (she said it couldn't come at a better time, apparently I am being obnoxious and not a gracious winner ) she's of the mindset that voting is a private thing... she also works with the humane society and is surrounded by raging liberals all day (yes, she voted for trump).

Our wedding is coming up and I suggested we invite a few liberals to cry at the reception so I can be assured to be as happy on wedding night as I was on election night. She wasn't amused

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Inauguration Day is Friday, January 20th, 2017.

http://www.timeanddate.com/cou...ur=&min=&sec=&p0=179

Seventy days until the end of the worst presidency ever.

It was kinda depressing when we put this up in our office area there were over 300 days - it's getting good now, I'm starting to feel it!!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.c...ed-threatened-945752

Hollywood Studios, Agencies in a Daze After Trump Win: "Many of Us Will Be Scared and Threatened"

A strange silence descended on Hollywood on Wednesday morning as stunned studio executives, agents and producers went through the motions as they tried to process Hillary Clinton's surprise loss to Donald Trump.

Across Hollywood, agents, studio executives, producers and thousands of rank-and-file employees showed up at work Wednesday in a daze. A majority of Hollywood's power brokers and up-and-comers supported Clinton. Her roster of donors reads like a who's who of Hollywood

Entry to an August fundraiser hosted at Justin Timberlake and Jessica Biel's house was $100,000 per couple.

Clinton garnered $22 million in contributions from the entertainment industry, compared to a mere $290,000 for Trump.

“One point that was brought up was that Hollywood can be a bit sheltered from the rest of the country"

really ???

executives "have been consoling each other,” with some employees shedding tears, says one insider.

The mood inside another studio's animation department was akin to an Irish wake, according to an insider, with employees dressed in black

"One of the great things President Obama did was taking a page from Lincoln's playbook — taking on rivals and working together with them in the White House"

absolute bullshit

yet one established Hollywood agent has a different take, “What the cool kids are upset about is that someone they don’t like and someone who is not part of the cool kids won. Time to grow up and move on.”