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"Lightning Fast" Supreme Court Agrees To Expedite Decision On Whether To Hear Trump 2020 Election Case

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...ial-immunity-defense

After petitioning the US Supreme Court to weigh in on former President Trump's federal 2020 election case - specifically Trump's presidential immunity defense, Special Counsel Jack Smith had his answer by end-of-day, after the Supreme Court granted his request to "expedite consideration of the petition."

Attorney Steve Vladeck called the response "lightning-fast by the Supreme Court's standards."



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I absolutely agree with Tucker Carlson-

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Discussing what could happen if Trump is convicted in the federal election case, Megyn Kelly said, “If she puts him in jail pending appeal before the election the country’s going to burn. Then all this blowback, ‘Oh my God she is calling for violence.’ I’m not calling for violence. But there is no way the Trump base is not going to be beside itself with anger at that level of deprivation of being able to simply vote for the candidate of choice. That’s what’s being taken away here.”

Carlson said, “Speaking of violence that is what you are going to get.”

He continued, “If you leave people no alternative, then what do you think is going to happen? I mean, the whole point of electoral democracy is that it’s a pressure relief valve that takes people who are very frustrated with the way things are going and gives them a way to express themselves, have their desires heard and ultimately their will done, to be represented in a peaceful way.”

Carlson added, “You’re rigging the election. And they did that. So, if you keep doing that, and people are like, ‘Wait, I have no economic power. You’ve devalued my currency so it’s like, $11 for a dozen eggs. And my vote doesn’t matter anymore, well then, what do I have? Like, what power do I have?’ And you’re going to get violence if you keep this shit up. That’s just the truth. And I’m very upset about that. I don’t want that to happen. I think the counter-violence will be much more extreme than the violence, but any rational person can see what’s coming."


https://www.breitbart.com/clip...u-keep-this-sh-t-up/



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“You’re rigging the election. And they did that...


Just a reminder of how we got here:
The Trump Presidency : Year IV:

Two Weeks That Changed America
By Steve McCann

I was recently asked if there was a defining moment that dramatically accelerated and perhaps made permanent the chaos this nation is presently facing. My answer: the two weeks between March 16 and March 30, 2020.

On March 16th, Donald Trump declared a National Emergency for COVID-19 and effectively shut down the nation for “15 days to slow the spread”. At a press conference announcing the temporary shutdown he said: “With several weeks of focused action, we can turn the corner, and turn it quickly.”

Regardless of the severity, never throughout the annals of mankind has a nation been shut down to combat a pandemic. However, the politically compromised and dishonest medical advisors to Trump (including Drs. Fauci and Birx) advised him to declare a National Emergency and agree to a shutdown and social distancing by pointing to the supposed success of China’s choreographed lockdowns.

Soon thereafter, Trump allied with Mitch McConnell and the Democrats to structure an unprecedented economic relief package which was passed by Congress on March 27, 2020. Trump signed the $2.2 Trillion Coronavirus relief bill or the CARES Act on the same day. This was the largest single spending bill in human history and equivalent to the annual Gross Domestic Product of Russia.

Within the voluminous CARES Act was $400 million to the states to legitimize, promote, and underwrite mass mail-in voting and by default, ballot harvesting. By including this spending in the relief package, both political parties and the White House gave their stamp of approval for mass mail-in voting and the inevitable attendant abuse and manipulation.

The announced initial 15 days to slow the spread of COVID-19 days became 45 days as Donald Trump, on March 30, 2020, reluctantly extended the de facto national shutdown for an additional 30 days after acquiescing to the so-called public health experts in the government.

Once that extension was announced, Trump lost control of events and it became impossible for him to reverse course. He was mercilessly mocked whenever he talked about ending the lockdowns toward the end of the 45-day period as the legacy media and the Democrats were incessantly fearmongering and the federal medical bureaucracy was deliberately inflating the infection and fatality numbers.

This cabal was secure in the knowledge that the measures outlined by Trump and the White House Covid Task Force would sink the economy and open the door to mass mail-in voting and voter fraud. Which would also be the catalyst to defeat Trump in the general election. Accordingly, the political opposition and legacy media unrelentingly wallowed in alarmism and championed draconian lockdowns, masking and social distancing while also promoting mass mail-in voting.

Thus, the extension issued on March 30th inevitably led to long-term lockdowns, massive economic dislocation, protracted school closures as the various state governors, pointing to Trump’s decisions as their justification, initiated their own lockdown regimens. Trump was confronted with the reality that a president has no legal basis to intervene in the shutdown policies of the individual states.

Instinctively, Trump knew he had made a mistake as he watched the economy implode. However, due to the upcoming election, he hesitated to remove those around him, such as the duplicitous Drs. Fauci and Birx, who were not only incompetent but in league with the Democrat/Legacy Media axis.

Trump, in his speeches, did attempt to convince the governors and federal bureaucrats to alter course, but it was too late as the damage to his presidency, the nation, and the citizenry was a fait accompli. Further, with donor and federal government funding combined with insouciance on the part of the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee, the Democrat war machine relentlessly, and in some cases unconstitutionally, succeeded in changing election laws in numerous states prior to November 3, 2020.

The decisions and actions between March 16th and March 30, 2020 were the primary factor in the election of Joe Biden and the Obama-led Marxist takeover of the presidency and the Executive Branch, which has eventuated in the following:

A de facto open border resulting in over 10 million illegal immigrants and an untold number of potential terrorists flooding the nation,
$10.3 Trillion in new national debt since March of 2020 (in 2008 the total national debt was $10.0 Trillion),
A potentially permanent stagnant economy and ongoing inflation resulting in one dollar in November of 2023 buying only 82% of what it did in March of 2020, while real disposable income is down 7.5%,
A politically weaponized justice system and federal police force (FBI) targeting Trump and other political adversaries as well as everyday Americans,
Permanent uncontrolled mail-in voting in 34 of the 50 states,
The massive expansion of the government-sponsored censorship and domestic spying industry,
An overwhelming erosion of confidence in the Federal health bureaucracy due to manipulating data, promoting lockdowns, and the haphazard approval and mandating of the COVID-19 vaccine,
The funding of a never-ending and unnecessary war in Ukraine, the enriching of Iran, and the greenlighting of Chinese expansion and belligerency.

Donald Trump deserves to be recognized as an indispensable man who was the right president at the right time and prior to March of 2020 had one of the most successful presidencies in the modern era. However, when confronted by his adversaries and their manipulation of the Coronavirus Pandemic, Trump’s acquiescence and decision-making process was out of character as he was far too fixated on the upcoming election.

The decisions a president makes in times of national crises oftentimes have enormous implications for the future of the country. The decisions made in those fateful two weeks between March 16 and March 30, 2020 are the backdrop to the chaos this nation is presently experiencing.

https://www.americanthinker.co...changed_america.html



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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"All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope."

--Sir Winston Churchill

"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose."

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Term limits for the President is the idea that needs to apply to ALL politicians.

However my concern is that when DJT is re-elected and starts to drain the swamp we had better have a really good candidate ready to step in and take his place to finish the job. Otherwise it will have been for naught if it goes back to a libtard traitor.

Where do we want to be in 5 years, 10 years. Need to plan now and we need to have a much longer time horizon than the opposition.


This, and a big concern is can we deliver the house and senate for the whole term, if the D get the house it will be back to Impeach Impeach Impeach.....
 
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Supreme Court agrees to hear Jan. 6 case that could affect Trump prosecution...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna128202


The Trump Train is picking up speed...




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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...24-election-n2632475

Alan Dershowitz:

Dershowitz even pointed out that the indictment regarding the January 6 case was so "open-ended and dangerous" that Smith himself could be indicted for it

Dershowitz also shared his thoughts in-depth in "The Dershow," with regards to the far-reaching consequences the indictment could have, calling it "one of the strangest documents I've ever read," regarding it as "open-ended and broad."

Smith himself left out Trump's key words on January 6 that he wanted people to " protest peacefully and patriotically ," which Dershowitz stressed bring Trump within the First Amendment. Dershowitz pointed out that Smith "deliberately, willfully, and with malice" left out these key words, thus "doctoring the speech."

Annunciating his words for emphasis, Dershowitz pointed out that "what you cannot argue about is that a decent prosecutor, an honest lawyer doesn't leave those words out of the indictment! And that's what Jack Smith did. He left those words out of the indictment."

When it comes to such an obscure theory, that lying could be criminalized, Dershowitz pointed out, Smith could himself be indicted for lying. He could also be held liable for, by indicting Trump, threatening his First Amendment rights.

"Now obviously Jack Smith's not gonna be indicted," Dershowitz made clear. "I just make that point to illustrate how open-ended and dangerous this indictment is."


Speaking with Bartirimo, Dershowitz also repeated a point he's made before, which is that he is certain that Smith will get a conviction, noting "the betting odds are probably 100 to 1 in favor of him getting a conviction" in the District of Columbia, which Dershowitz described as "a jurisdiction where 90 some odd percent of the people hate Donald Trump."

"He wants to get a conviction down and dirty before the election, knowing it may very well be reversed after the election, but it will be too late," Dershowitz added about Smith, stressing, "This really does constitute a form of election interference, denying us the public the right to vote against [Trump] or for him without interference by a criminal trial."
 
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^^^^^ Raised my blood pressure.



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The Dems need to put their heads on straight.

“Democrats are calling on Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to recuse himself from the high court's handling of Donald Trump's bid for immunity in the case about the 2020 election, citing his wife's actions in the aftermath of the contest and the court's own ethics rules.

In a Dec. 15 letter to Thomas, eight House Democrats ramped up the pressure on the justice to step back from the case involving the former president.

'We strongly implore you to exercise your discretion and recuse yourself from this and any other decisions in the case of United States v. Trump,' Representative Hank Johnson, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee's court subcommittee, and seven other Democrats wrote.

The Democrats argue Ginni Thomas's actions after the election 'raise serious questions' about her husband's 'ability to be or even to appear impartial in any cases before the Supreme Court involving the 2020 election and the January 6th insurrection.'
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Donald Trump has been charged with four counts related to conspiring to obstruct the results of the 2020 election. His lawyers argue that presidential immunity shields him from prosecution.

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan ruled against the former president in December. Trump appealed the decision, and special counsel Jack Smith asked the Supreme Court last week to expedite that process. Trump's lawyers have until Wednesday to respond to Smith's request. …”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/12878529



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The Dems need to put their heads on straight.

“Democrats are calling on Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to recuse himself from the high court's handling of Donald Trump's bid for immunity in the case about the 2020 election, citing his wife's actions in the aftermath of the contest and the court's own ethics rules.

In a Dec. 15 letter to Thomas, eight House Democrats ramped up the pressure on the justice to step back from the case involving the former president.

'We strongly implore you to exercise your discretion and recuse yourself from this and any other decisions in the case of United States v. Trump,' Representative Hank Johnson, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee's court subcommittee, and seven other Democrats wrote.

The Democrats argue Ginni Thomas's actions after the election 'raise serious questions' about her husband's 'ability to be or even to appear impartial in any cases before the Supreme Court involving the 2020 election and the January 6th insurrection.'
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Donald Trump has been charged with four counts related to conspiring to obstruct the results of the 2020 election. His lawyers argue that presidential immunity shields him from prosecution.

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan ruled against the former president in December. Trump appealed the decision, and special counsel Jack Smith asked the Supreme Court last week to expedite that process. Trump's lawyers have until Wednesday to respond to Smith's request. …”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/12878529
No way in hell should he recuse himself. Play by their rules.
 
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No way in hell should he recuse himself. Play by their rules.


Ya' think? You say that as if there were even a question. The idea barely deserves consideration let alone a response.

Hank Johnson is one of the dumbest people on the planet. He should recuse himself from planet Earth. The IQ of the human race would immediately jump about 30 points.


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"All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope."

--Sir Winston Churchill

"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose."

--James Earl Jones



 
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Ohio Senator J.D. Vance handing an Associated Press "journalist" their ass:

https://twitter.com/henryrodge.../1737229231606616400

 
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A short time ago the Colorado Supreme Court determined that Trump can be kept off the CO ballot for the presidency because they determined he committed acts of insurrection.

The decision is stayed so he can appeal to the SCOTUS.

Seemms kind of odd that he's been found by the court to have committed or lead an insurrection but there's been no trial, much less a conviction in CO. This is only a CO decision and you'd think that a CO conviction for insurrection would be necessary.
 
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A short time ago the Colorado Supreme Court determined that Trump can be kept off the CO ballot for the presidency because they determined he committed acts of insurrection.


Fuck 'em. Trump did not carry CO, so it is redundant.



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A short time ago the Colorado Supreme Court determined that Trump can be kept off the CO ballot for the presidency because they determined he committed acts of insurrection.


Fuck 'em. Trump did not carry CO, so it is redundant.


Not a good answer, IMO. This could be used in other states on other candidates, regardless of party. You can't say, "Oh he wouldn't have carried CO so it's a harmless decision." It's a huge decision that has an impact well beyond CO.
 
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If CO wants to proclaim Trump guilty then all the Biden's need to be perp walked because they've been accused of wrongdoing as well. It's gonna be a long list and we're gonna need a lot more prison space if that's how things are going to work.
 
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Not a good answer, IMO. This could be used in other states on other candidates, regardless of party. You can't say, "Oh he wouldn't have carried CO so it's a harmless decision." It's a huge decision that has an impact well beyond CO.

This, absolutely! I expect they'll start something like this in a whole bunch of states in the next few days, including Illinois, where I'm stuck.


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The left doesn't want you to have a choice, unless it's a choice they approve of. They know they can't beat him, so they have to engage in lawfare to keep him off the ballot. Four unelected judges have just taken the democratic right to vote for who you choose from millions of citizens in Colorado. Obama's fundamental transformation of America.
 
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The left doesn't want you to have a choice, unless it's a choice they approve of. They know they can't beat him, so they have to engage in lawfare to keep him off the ballot. Four unelected judges have just taken the democratic right to vote for who you choose from millions of citizens in Colorado. Obama's fundamental transformation of America.


The CO Supremes were only given a limited question of whether Trump could be removed from the GOP ballot and today, unfortunately, they said he could.

Hypothetically, if the SCOTUS doesn't intervene and he's kept off the ballot, the CO decision doesn't mean he can't be a write-in candidate and that no one in CO can vote for him.

It's what their decision intends but as I read the short summaries, it only keeps him off the GOP ballot which is why the Jan 4 and Jan 5 dates are important.
 
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