FEMA...another HaHaHaha here. Well, they do have plenty of leftover Katrina campers that could house traitors! FEMA!

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Originally posted by TigerDore:

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Originally posted by tiwimon:
Reads like a movie script or novel - but these are crazy times ...

This has become "Charlie Brown and Lucy with the football" territory. How many of these kinds of yarns have we all heard over the last 60-90 days?

Indeed.

My wife forwarded one to me... I'll just hit the highlights:

• Trump declassified all the "Washington scandals"
  
• He is hiding on a military base
  
• The attack on the Capital was proven to be AntiFa and BLM, mostly
  
• Wikileaks just dumped everything they had, and a long list
  

Then she asked me "Did you forward that to SF?" "Hell no," I replied. "Para would go spare, and rightfully so."

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by TigerDore:

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Originally posted by tiwimon:
Reads like a movie script or novel - but these are crazy times ...

This has become "Charlie Brown and Lucy with the football" territory. How many of these kinds of yarns have we all heard over the last 60-90 days?

Indeed.

My wife forwarded one to me... I'll just hit the highlights:

• Trump declassified all the "Washington scandals"
  
• He is hiding on a military base
  
• The attack on the Capital was proven to be AntiFa and BLM, mostly
  
• Wikileaks just dumped everything they had, and a long list
  

Then she asked me "Did you forward that to SF?" "Hell no," I replied. "Para would go spare, and rightfully so."

This has been circulating in various nforms for weeks.

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Originally posted by 46and2:
FEMA?

Fucking FEMA?

Come on now. Keep that bullshit out of here.

FEMA couldn't save itself from drowning in an empty parking lot in Arizona.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
My wife forwarded one to me...

This has been circulating in various nforms for weeks.

No surprise there.

I told her, right off the bat, it was nonsense.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
go spare

No kidding, one can learn something every day here at SF. I'd not heard that expression before.

Where There’s Fire, There’s Fire

We hear the blandishment that this election is a murky problem of, “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.” In reality, there is plenty of fire.

In Michigan, a court has a case in discovery now ( https://100percentfedup.com/mi...on-and-google/)where proven vote switching was found. Unequivocal. A forensic team was enlisted and they found vote switching and voting machines “designed for fraud.” The court ordered this forensic report to be published. https://www.scribd.com/documen...t-121320-v2-REDACTED

The forensic team found that although the Federal Election Commission only approves voting methods that produce 1 out of every 250,000 voting errors, the machines used widely throughout the country produced 68% error rates in that one Michigan jurisdiction. There are reports of other key jurisdictions reporting 90% error rates. Read the reports and the progress of the litigation for yourself.

When votes were flagged as an error, the votes were not recorded until they were sent to “adjudication” where an operator, computer sub-routine or offsite secret actor adjusted the votes. Votes were changed, for instance, changing 6,000 Trump votes to Biden. This is not in dispute. https://100percentfedup.com/mi...e-amazon-and-google/

In Georgia, the legislature had hearings going while pre-voting was underway and a computer expert’s team then reported that it was able to hack into the same type of voting machine through its peripherals while then in use. They were in the machine at the time of their testimony. In September of 2020, an independent expert previously warned of such vulnerability but it was not made secure. The public was told that gaining access through the internet was not possible because the machines were not connected to the internet. Not so. https://thenewamerican.com/at-...k-dominion-machines/

The problem of showing all the instances of cheating comes down to destroyed records. How many times will I accept that excuse any longer? 30,000 missing emails. Bleach Bitted servers. Hammers on hard drives. Secret impeachment deliberations and records that are supposed to be public. Destroyed election records. This seems to be a pattern that I cannot ignore. It no longer merely looks like corruption. It is corruption. To ignore such shenanigans does violence to a sound mind. https://apnews.com/article/39d...33efe06e0774615a6d05

And, where is the accountability? How stupid do Dems think we are? - Benghazi, government record keeping requirements, false claims against our president, violations of our secrecy laws, and the list goes on and on to include a stollen election.

Some are set to install a thief, an illegitimate person, without the consent of the governed. He is so beloved that it takes miles of concertina wire and more than 21,000 troops to let him speak. This is not an American president. American presidents need no such force to be recognized as our leader. Fair minded Americans will accept a fair election. QED.

All this talk of just go along is not persuasive. A guy in Venezuela, their alleged president, took power using the same machine processes and all fair elections are now lost. There, notwithstanding the first stolen term, the opposition is not allowed to run now. Disqualified. Sound familiar? The impeachment attack here is an effort to take a candidate out of contention for the next election. The left is following a known playbook. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-40804812

In Venezuela, they just had parliamentary elections to increase anti democracy forces and to increase the number of anti democracy seats. That’s what leftists do. To bury our heads in the sand by saying we’ll get em’ next time is unwise. At some point, there is no next time. It’s high time to get our heads around that. Besides, what is the remedy for a successful fraud case even if there was some unlikely accountability? Right. Nothing. We are still irreparably damaged by changes to our institutions, policies, spending, international relations and ability to choose our own representatives.

What to do about it is still an open question. But, it seems clear that allowing the cheaters to go after conservatives is not a legitimate course of action. The value of free speech, voting and protest is that it allows a free people to Interact to forge a path together. Do you see any together in what is going on or in what is proposed? Once replaced with repression and shows of force, it looks more like Tiananmen Square - a communist course of action. The philosophy of repression installed by mock election is not the American way.

American Thinker released this statement. It's a shame because I always considered them a good source. Andrea Widburg did seem to get ahead of herself at times as if she was trying to out do Jim Hoft at the Gateway Pundit.

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We received a lengthy letter from Dominion's defamation lawyers explaining why they believe that their client has been the victim of defamatory statements. Having considered the full import of the letter, we have agreed to their request that we publish the following statement:

American Thinker and contributors Andrea Widburg, R.D. Wedge, Brian Tomlinson, and Peggy Ryan have published pieces on www.AmericanThinker.com that falsely accuse US Dominion Inc., Dominion Voting Systems, Inc., and Dominion Voting Systems Corporation (collectively “Dominion”) of conspiring to steal the November 2020 election from Donald Trump. These pieces rely on discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories about Dominion’s supposed ties to Venezuela, fraud on Dominion’s machines that resulted in massive vote switching or weighted votes, and other claims falsely stating that there is credible evidence that Dominion acted fraudulently.

These statements are completely false and have no basis in fact. Industry experts and public officials alike have confirmed that Dominion conducted itself appropriately and that there is simply no evidence to support these claims.

It was wrong for us to publish these false statements. We apologize to Dominion for all of the harm this caused them and their employees. We also apologize to our readers for abandoning 9 journalistic principles and misrepresenting Dominion’s track record and its limited role in tabulating votes for the November 2020 election. We regret this grave error.



Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...t.html#ixzz6jerF7XPF
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

OK, so Dominion did not rob the bank, just provided the gun, mask, and bank layout to the robbers.

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But does that mean DVS did anything wrong? If they were contracted to build a machine that could be exploited...is that their fault or the stakeholders who defined the system needs?...How can it be fraud if our pols signed off on it?

you have exposed the very heart of the issue....we can just pretend hidden partisan influence served at such national cost to the unwitting Citizen who thought he was entitled to honest counting election process no longer matters. Right.

Turn in your man card. It will be of no value anywhere after this, as secret algorithms will update whenever the Controller wants.

My new congresswoman, (Diana Harshbarger, R-TN-1) is coming out swinging. Vote against impeachment I'll have to tell her I appreciate the effort.

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According to Agora, a Swiss company promoting free and fair elections around the world, such elections must have these minimum characteristics:

“Transparency.
Each step of the election process should be easily understood and open to scrutiny by all stakeholders (voters, political parties, outside observers and others). All results should be independently verifiable and auditable.

Privacy.
The choices that each voter makes should remain private both during and after the election.

Integrity.
Only eligible voters should be allowed to vote, and those votes must be protected from any alteration or exclusion.

Affordability.
The election process must be affordable to governments and its citizens in order to maintain sovereignty.

Accessibility.
All eligible voters, regardless of location, group membership or disability, should have reasonable and equal opportunity to cast their ballot.” https://medium.com/agorablockc...lection-7f734b13b04d

How did we do in comparison to tin pot dictators? No wonder folks are pissed.

My score card. 1 lowest 10 highest

2020 election

Transparency : 1

Privacy : 5 (while I don’t trust our system or officials to ever value or protect my privacy given their behavior I have no reason I can think of yet to give them less than a 50% trust rating)

Integrity : 0

Affordability : 9 I don’t think this needs any explanation unless you are a racist or partisan fool. Having a drivers license or state issued ID card is pretty damn basic and only getting more accessible every year. Maybe to the point that it’s tempting/ inviting fraud into the process.

Accessibility : 10 we seem willing and eager to let anyone and everyone vote...

This is a serious fact check. Have someone claiming to be in the military on a SW US base stating they are on full alert and all aircraft are fueld and loaded.

Keep hearing this rumor... Granted there are mobilizations in DC and some cities. Anyone currently in or with relatives that can confirm for deny this? His story isn't quite adding up but I'm not current enough to unlock it myself anymore

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Originally posted by bigeinkcmo:... ... Yet we all know slot machines are designed to keep more than they pay. ....

Slot machines are neither "free" nor "fair".

Elections, by the vary nature of our nation's process of the "consent of the people", must be.

"We the People..." never consented to slot machines.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
This is a serious fact check. Have someone claiming to be in the military on a SW US base stating they are on full alert and all aircraft are fueld and loaded.

Keep hearing this rumor... Granted there are mobilizations in DC and some cities. Anyone currently in or with relatives that can confirm for deny this? His story isn't quite adding up but I'm not current enough to unlock it myself anymore

I'd tell him to hush! Sounds like he's violating operational security!

ETA: I meant STFU! Been out for over 20 years, I forgot some of the basic terminology.

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Originally bigeinkcmo
How can it be fraud if our pols signed off on it?

I confess to not entirely following your point. I suppose it’s because I see it from a different angle.


The American Heritage dictionary defines fraud in this way:
“fraud frôd►
n. A deception practiced in order to induce another to give up possession of property or surrender a right.
n. A piece of trickery; a trick.”

So, it matters not to me whether a politician signed off on it. The right to have the candidate of our choosing is OUR right. We are the ones being deprived of our choice by the artifice of faking a fair election. We are now being asked to give up our right to our president. That politicians are responsible for subverting my right is irrelevant. To me, it’s textbook fraud.

I do not know if it has been posted yet. If it is, I apologize. If not here is the HSGAC Finance Report on Hunter Biden and Family. Please scroll down and read page 84. Enjoy and God Bless !!!

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/i...nce_Report_FINAL.pdf

Lou Dobbs 1/15/21 on Lindsey Graham
https://youtu.be/XvruSiNbmzg

Senator Graham sat on 11 interview transcripts, keeping them hidden from officials investigating Obama Gate.
All of the interviews kept hidden were conducted before the Nov. 3rd election.

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Thanks for posting the hsgac report. I sent the conclusion and the link to some libtards I know, and put it on Facebook.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Reposted from previous page. I don't want there to be any "Oh, sorry, I did not see your post."
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Originally posted by PrinceAliFabulousHe:
I'm sorry, I think you've confused me with somebody that cares about what you think of my credibility or lack of credibility on an anonymous internet forum.

Lovely. You joined this forum, without any apparent interest in firearms:

https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...tType=1&u=3690040474

I want you and the others who've come into this thread in order to straighten out all we confused yokels with your unique brand of Truth to leave these guys alone. Cut it out. Do you think you're helping with this "You're all confused/deluded/whatever and here's the real Truth you obviously will never reach on your own"? Well, you're not helping. You're making things worse. Leave these guys alone.

If I asked you if you consider yourself feeble-minded, you would say 'no', assuming you would even dignify the question with an answer. So, why is it that you think you can sway all these members by putting up a couple of snarky posts? Do you think the rest of us are feeble-minded and easily swayed? Using the unprovable pseudo-defense that you've been yadda-yadda all your life and you're a member of this or that organization does not change a thing. You're expecting members to abandon their beliefs because of a couple of posts on "an anonymous internet forum." This has ceased as of today.

I don't care if you've been registered here for twenty years or twenty minutes. If you've got a low post count, then you haven't been participating in these Trump threads for the past five years in this forum. You're screwing with the active members of this forum, and when you do that, you're screwing with me, and that's something I won't tolerate.

You and the other low post count members who have behaved this way need to leave the subject of politics alone for the time being.

If you and others feel as if everyone here is delusional, then why are you here?

I've already banned one member yesterday in this thread. zipriderson was warned some time ago. He kept coming back to the subject and now he's gone, and while I have no desire to remove anyone from this forum, if you fail to heed my directives, I'll boot you in a New York minute.

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Originally posted by prj:
That said, we'll never be able to claim "peaceful transfer of power" again. Thanks for that, guys.

I don't want to see you in this thread again.

I'm going to be honest. I had semi forgotten about this and then I decided to log on here tonight where I found this post.

I had every intention of making a snarky reply, and getting banned for the pure entertainment of it, but I stopped and thought about it. Because, you know what? You're right. I can't deny it.

Getting myself banned from here would accomplish nothing, and lord knows all of us are going to have to hang together over the next few years, because things are going to get very difficult and having a community you can go to is going to become important. Conservatives in this country are 75 million individualists who are going to have to figure out how to forge the kind of unity that the left wingers have, or else it's going to be seriously bad. It might be a case of hanging together or hanging separately.

So, I hope that I can apologize here for what I said above, let bygones be bygones, and I'll just do what you said and leave this thread alone.

I do like firearms though. I have a P365 sitting in Washington State pistol jail waiting to get picked up.