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Originally posted by 12131:
[C]an you be pardoned if you have not been convicted, yet?

Ford pardoned Nixon for whatever Watergate crimes he was guilty of. It’s generally believed that that killed his reelection (election, actually) chances.

I don’t recall any other specific examples, but it’s clearly possible.

Kyle Rittenhouse is being tried by the State of Wisconsin, no? So Trump can't pardon him. He wasn't charged by the US Government.

A Presidential Pardon is only good for Federal Crimes.

I did not know that.
I always thought it was unlimited ability to pardon.
This is what I found on a quick search:

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution grants the President of the United States the power to pardon any person convicted for or accused of federal crimes, except in cases of impeachment.

The president may not pardon persons convicted for or accused of violating state or local laws.

Through the power of “commutation of sentence,” the president may reduce or completely eliminate the prison sentences being served by persons convicted of federal crimes.

While he or she is not required to follow them, recommendations on all applications for presidential pardons must be prepared and submitted to the president by the U.S. Pardon Attorney of the Department of Justice.

Four Blackwater guards were also pardoned.

https://www.stripes.com/news/m...aq-shooting-1.656183

“2020 has been a year like no other” - Seth Holehouse

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...ative-media-n1252205

An election systems worker driven into hiding by death threats has filed a defamation lawsuit against President Donald Trump’s campaign, two of its lawyers and some conservative media figures and outlets.

Eric Coomer , security director at the Colorado-based Dominion Voting Systems, said he wants his life back after being named in false charges as a key actor in “rigging” the election for President-elect Joe Biden. There has been no evidence that the election was rigged.

His lawsuit, filed Tuesday in district court in Denver County, Colorado, names the Trump campaign, lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, conservative columnist Michelle Malkin, the website Gateway Pundit, Colorado conservative activist Joseph Oltmann, and conservative media Newsmax and One America News Network.

“I have been thrust into the public spotlight by people with political and financial agendas but, at heart, I am a private person,” Coomer said in a statement.

“While I intend to do everything I can to recapture my prior lifestyle, I have few illusions in this regard,” he said. “And so, today, I put my trust in the legal process, which has already exposed the truth of the 2020 presidential election.”

Dominion, which provided vote-counting equipment to several states, has denied accusations that it switched Trump votes in Biden’s favor, and no evidence has emerged to back those charges up.

Dominion and another voting technology company, Smartmatic, have begun to fight back against being named in baseless conspiracy theories. After legal threats were made, Fox News Channel and Newsmax in recent days have aired retractions of some claims made on their networks.

There was no immediate comment from those named in the lawsuit.

His lawyers said Coomer has become “the face of the false claims.” Coomer’s name first got public exposure in a podcast by Oltmann, who claimed to have heard a strategy call of Antifa activists. When the prospect of a Trump victory was brought up, Oltmann said a man identified as “Eric from Dominion” supposedly said “don’t worry about the election, Trump is not going to win. I made ... sure of that,” adding an expletive.

In an opinion piece written for the Denver Post, Coomer wrote that he has no connections to Antifa, was never on any call and the idea that there is some recording of him is “wholly fabricated.”

The fact-checking website Snopes said Oltmann hasn’t cooperated in any attempts to verify his claims.

Oltmann also claimed that Coomer made anti-Trump comments on Facebook. The lawsuit acknowledged that Coomer made comments critical of the president on his private Facebook page ; he now says his page is inactive.

Oltmann’s charges spread after he was interviewed by Malkin and Gateway Pundit. Eric Trump tweeted about them. OANN, and its White House correspondent Chanel Rion, reported on them. Powell, misidentifying Coomer as working for Smartmatic, said at a news conference that Coomer’s “social media is filled with hatred” for Trump, and she later repeated her charges in a Newsmax interview.

Giuliani, at a news conference, called Coomer “a vicious, vicious man. He wrote horrible things about the president ... He is completely warped,” according to the lawsuit.

Fox News Channel, another network popular with Trump supporters, is not being sued and Coomer actually uses Fox’s Tucker Carlson to buttress his case. The lawsuit notes a scheduled Powell appearance on Carlson’s show did not happen after she could not provide evidence for her charges.

Coomer told The Associated Press earlier this month that right-wing websites posted his photo, home address and details about his family. Death threats began almost immediately.

He said his father, an Army veteran, received a handwritten letter asking, “How does it feel to have a traitor for a son.”

“It’s terrifying,” Coomer said. “I’ve worked in international elections in all sorts of post-conflict countries where election violence is real and people are getting killed over it. And I feel that we’re on the verge of that.”

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could bring a lot of things out.

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Originally posted by sdy:
could bring a lot of things out.

Yeah, discovery could be fun.

^^Maybe he'll be lucky enough to have the court refuse to hear/dismiss his case before he even has a chance to present any evidence.

Courts seem to have been doing that a lot lately. Then he can 'just move on.'

$.02 worth,
Boss

Supreme Court Fails to Immediately Act on Trump Campaign’s Request to Expedite Pennsylvania Appeal

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...mpaign=mb-2020-12-24

The Supreme Court on Wednesday docketed an appeal filed by President Donald Trump’s campaign that seeks to reverse cases by a state court but did not immediately act on the campaign’s request to expedite the case.

Instead, the top court’s docket shows a Jan. 22, 2021. deadline—two days after the presidential inauguration day—for when the state is required to respond to the request for appeal.

The campaign filed the suit on Monday challenging three Pennsylvania Supreme Court rulings that “illegally changed” the mail-in ballot laws “immediately before and after the 2020 presidential election,” the legal team said.

The team argued that those court decisions were issued in violation of Article II of the Constitution and the U.S. Supreme Court ruling, Bush v. Gore, that settled a recount dispute from Florida in 2000.

Along with the petition for a writ of certiorari, the legal team filed a request to the court to expedite the case. That request asked the nation’s top court to order Pennsylvania officials to respond by noon on Wednesday—a deadline that has now passed.

“If this matter is not timely resolved, not only Petitioner, but the Nation as a whole may suffer injury from the resulting confusion,” the campaign wrote

I cannot even describe how disgusted I am with the Supreme Court right now. Those fucking turncoats have made it abundantly clear they couldn’t care less about the constitution. Absolutely worthless.

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Originally posted by Largefarva:
I cannot even describe how disgusted I am with the Supreme Court right now. Those fucking turncoats have made it abundantly clear they couldn’t care less about the constitution. Absolutely worthless.

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I can hear them now on the 22nd of January saying it is now a moot point because a new occupant is in the White House. The games they can play are sickening.

I like this pic.

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Originally posted by sdy:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...ative-media-n1252205

“It’s terrifying,” Coomer said. “I’ve worked in international elections in all sorts of post-conflict countries where election violence is real and people are getting killed over it. And I feel that we’re on the verge of that.”

No shit, Sherlock and you're trying to disavow you helped bring us to that point, asswipe.

Who knows where "truth" is anymore? Such an elusive and hidden view we have into our govt's workings

So many forces working to keep us in the dark


from Fox:

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...tter_impression=true

Bill Barr is now gone from DoJ

High level officials within the Justice Department are in "ongoing discussions" on whether to appoint a special counsel to take over the investigation into Hunter Biden, with some believing it is "warranted," two sources familiar told Fox News Wednesday.

Attorney General Bill Barr, who resigned from his post last week and had his last day at the Justice Department Wednesday, said earlier this week that he had "not seen a reason" to appoint a special counsel to probe President-elect Joe Biden’s son, who is under federal investigation for his "tax affairs."

But one source familiar told Fox News on Wednesday that it is an "open discussion."

"It is an ongoing discussion," the source told Fox News. "No decisions have been made either way."

Another source told Fox News that some high level DOJ officials believe a special counsel is "warranted," and cited the special counsel statute.

"It was passed to deal with a potential conflict of interest of the attorney general or the president of the United States," the source told Fox News. "A president-elect coming in, where his appointed attorneys will be investigating his son? That’s textbook conflict ."

From the Urban Dictionary --

Coomer: A name typically seen in the boards of 4chan. A coomer is someone who is addicted to pornography and masturbation to the point where their whole life is affected by it. Coomers' life orbits around excessive masturbation and often affects their personal relationships...

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Who knows where "truth" is anymore? Such an elusive and hidden view we have into our govt's workings

So many forces working to keep us in the dark

Can you imagine the tell all books Trump is going to be putting out. If he can find someone that will publish it that is. Hell, he will be his own publisher! Who knows he may be able to do more harm to the swamp as a private citizen (with lots of money) than he could do as President!?!

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investigation into Hunter Biden

This absolutely needs to be put in motion. There will be no court case, but it will show Biden’s nepotism in erasing a criminal case against his son. Everyone on both sides of the aisle know they both are crooks, and any stain on them is a good thing.

^^Jr.'s 'investigation' ends Jan. 20...he's just going to hunker down while everybody pretends otherwise.

It's important to remember how it all works...




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1DqgQkxjIg

$.02 worth...
Boss

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
^^^^^^^
First name on the list should have been Kyle Rittenhouse.

He was filling in where the Government and Law Enforcement failed to fulfill their duty to defend the citizens.

Where is Kyle’s name?

Yes, why not Kyle? Maybe he has not been formally adjudicated? I don't know how this works, but I think this kid has been put through the wringer, for doing nothing at all illegal. My thoughts only, but I feel strongly about it. Free Kyle, now.