If Trump had someone as tenacious as Holder, something may have been pursued.

Sessions= nothing
Barr= nothing as of this post.

The rubber meets the road when it gets to SCOTUS and I think we have hope there. Well it's our last hope actually. Getting this in front of SCOTUS has been the goal from the beginning. There is just a incredible amount of noise going on that I'm tuning out more and more everyday. No more video's of Sidney Powell or number crunchers with charts and graphs of all the statistically impossible voting anomalies are needed. No more eye witness testimony is needed, no more long essays by opinion writers are needed, I know what happened and I need no more evidence that only serves to aggravate me.

All that matters now is the preponderance of evidence that the attorneys working for Trump are assembling and preparing to present to the SCOTUS should it get there. The rubber kneed Republicans are no surprise they have been there for years they have just been keeping their heads low the last four years to keep Trump from cutting them off.

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Originally posted by oddball:
In regards to Barr, I'm not going to throw him to the wolves right now.

Keep this in mind; apparently, the Biden team is now receiving PDBs (Presidential Daily Briefings), which would include DOJ business. Which means IF Barr "did not see" any evidence, did not interview witnesses, or examine forensic evidence and data, he has nothing to report to the Biden team. Guiliani and Ellis's statement focuses on this very aspect; Barr has seen and knows nothing.

In the past, Barr has been outspoken about election fraud being a real thing, and the potential of foreign entities to undermine the ballot process. Hopefully he's still on Trump's side.

Oddball has a good point. If Barr officially knows of no fraud or other investigations, he has nothing to give to the commies. He has been on our side since the beginnning, most likely still is.

^^^ I will respectfully disagree with my friends here regarding Barr. We have been played by this guy all along. All talk and no actions, when the chips are down. Name one of maggots who are known to have illegally tried to bring the President down in the last 4+ years who is in federal prison right now. Where is Durham? Over a year and a half of "investigation", with promise from Barr that it will be ready by end of summer, and, all of a sudden, nothing will be released until after the election. And now, this Durham creature is simply MIA.

And now, this nonsense no evidence of systemic fraud. Does this guy get his daily info from the corrupt media, also?

^^^^^^^^^^

Barr had a meeting with Trump at the WH today. Don't think he was fired

Yep, Barr is another establishment pro. He even admits it as he puts the DOJ before everything. His recent non-action isn’t fooling many of us into thinking the DOJ and other 3 syllable agencies have an ounce of ethics and decency left.
Fuck him and all the DC troglodytes should Biden be sworn in.

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Oddball has a good point. If Barr officially knows of no fraud or other investigations, he has nothing to give to the commies. He has been on our side since the beginnning, most likely still is.

I'm not disagreeing with the theory put forth of if I don't know anything then I can't tell Biden anything but it goes against his oath and direct duties as director of the DOJ. If there is election fraud it is his duty to pursue it and charge the people who are committing it and not play coy games with a possible incoming administration. If he did his job he would not have to worry about what Biden knows or does not know because Biden would not be getting sworn in.

Barr has always talked a law and order and justice will be served game but I haven't been able to point to anything he's done to bear that out and lets face it he has had a incredibly target rich field of some pretty low hanging fruit. I don't think Barr's DOJ has looked very hard because they don't want to get their hands dirty. This talk about fraud being a very particularized accusation to a particular set of circumstances is political cya talk.

^^^ Well said

This makes me wonder about the person or persons who truly did the real damage by making recommendations to the President to appoint/nominate Barr, Haspel, and Wray and the likes to high level posts. Who are they?

I always find Kunstler to be a good read. Yes, it's all conjecture until it plays out, but I think this view is encouraging...

https://kunstler.com/clusterfu...cenes-in-swamptopia/

I'm more cynical than most But I still have hope and am cautiously optimistic- Still.

Barr is forceful in this video with Wolf Blitzer

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AG Barr On Universal Mail-In Voting: “This Is Playing With Fire…Very Open To Fraud And Coercion”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWGOu3WV3Mk

We keep hearing about the need to get this case to the SC, so if this gets to the SC what decision would give Trump a way back into the white house? I can't find any specifics.

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Originally posted by braillediver:
I'm more cynical than most But I still have hope and am cautiously optimistic- Still.

Barr is forceful in this video with Wolf Blitzer

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AG Barr On Universal Mail-In Voting: “This Is Playing With Fire…Very Open To Fraud And Coercion”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWGOu3WV3Mk

Until he proves himself otherwise, that interview was an act, a set-up, a con-job.

The argument will be. . .

"Look how passionate and serious and outraged he is about this issue! If he were to have found voter fraud, especially mail-in voter fraud, even a smidgeon of it, he would do something about it."

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
We keep hearing about the need to get this case to the SC, so if this gets to the SC what decision would give Trump a way back into the white house? I can't find any specifics.

I don’t see it either.
It seems the only hope is with the State Legislatures and the Republicans have no spine.

two pages back, wcb6092 posted about Jesse Morgan. Here is more info

https://pjmedia.com/election/t...ennsylvania-n1184008

Jesse Morgan, the truck driver involved, told his story at the press conference.

“I drive a tractor-trailer for U.S. postal service, a subcontractor. I drive a route route from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, to Bethpage, New York, to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and back to Lancaster,” he explained.

“On October 21, when I arrived for my usual route for Bethpage,” he recalled, “an expeditor made three references to ballots that were to be loaded into my trailer, including saying, ‘Hey, you have ballots today.'”


He recalled receiving 24 Gaylord boxes full of ballots, stacked on top of each other. He saw that “envelopes had handwritten return addresses.”

“They were complete ballots. I didn’t think much of it at the time,” Morgan said. When he arrived in Harrisburg, he was not allowed to offload the mail. “I was made to wait for roughly 6 hours, from 9:15 a.m. to nearly 3 p.m.,” he recalled.

“All of this was weird,” Morgan said. After waiting for six hours, he went inside and asked to see the expeditor. “I was told to wait for the transportation supervisor,” an official Morgan never dealt with. “He’s a top guy, he’s the kind of guy that would speak to my boss.”

“The supervisor told me to drive to Lancaster without being unloaded in Harrisburg,” Morgan said. “I knew the ballots were loaded for Harrisburg.” He also recalled asking for his ticket, the slip that shows he arrived, and a late slip to prove he had been delayed. The supervisor refused to give him the slip.

“I then drove to Lancaster, unhooked my trailer in its normal place, and then drove my truck to where I always park it,” he recalled. “The next day, it just got weirder. As I arrived at Lancaster… my trailer was gone, not there anymore.”

“Since I started driving that Bethpage route, I’ve always had trailer 10-R-1440,” Morgan said. He noticed because he really liked that trailer.

“What happened on October 21 was a series of unusual events that cannot be a coincidence,” the truck driver insisted. “I know I saw ballots with return addresses filled out, thousands of them, thousands. Loaded onto my trailer in New York and headed for Pennsylvania.”

“As things became weirder I got to thinking and wondered why I was driving complete ballots from New York to Pennsylvania. I didn’t know why so I decided to speak up,” Morgan said.

Col. Tony Schaeffer, who is working with The Amistad Project team, said the organization had backed up Morgan’s story.

Kline said sources told him Morgan’s story “matched up perfectly on how you would insert fraudulent mail into the stream.”

At the press conference, other whistleblowers spoke about postal workers delivering Joe Biden campaign mail while they discarded mail from the Trump campaign.

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Gaylord boxes come in three sizes: 48x40x24", 48x40x36" and 48x40x48" all of them hold max 100#



here is video of Jesse Morgan

https://twitter.com/realDonald.../1333875814585282567

Catherine Herridge:

From a DOJ spokesperson: “Some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud and announced an affirmative finding of no fraud in the election. That is not what the Associated Press reported nor

what the Attorney General stated. The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations of fraud as expeditiously as possible.”

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
We keep hearing about the need to get this case to the SC, so if this gets to the SC what decision would give Trump a way back into the white house? I can't find any specifics.

IMO, the key is to deny Biden 270 electoral votes by invalidating different states (PA, GA, etc) by tying them up so they cannot vote on electors. Then letting the house delegation decide the POTUS.

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Originally posted by sdy:
here is video of Jesse Morgan

https://twitter.com/realDonald.../1333875814585282567

Also here.

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Originally posted by sdy:
two pages back, wcb6092 posted about Jesse Morgan. Here is more info

Jesse Morgan also has some great videos on his youtube channel about how the shadow people manage to haunt him and other members of his family even though they live in different parts of the country! I'm certain he's a credible witness.

After getting a big let down every time I looked into claims of actual fraud early on I only occasionally do any research on new ones. And it's like every time I do there's something off or just straight up untrue about it. This is the first one I decided to do any research on in days...and I end up with shadow people, great. Maybe this guy isn't just a simpleton trying to follow through on some ill conceived plan to get more publicity and is telling the truth. Also, maybe the "shadow people" are behind some of this. Or just regular ghosts, hard to say at this point.



PS - He has some cooking videos as well, haven't watched those.

another driver w a similar story. This driver is from Wisconsin

video at:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1333873500931690499


AG Barr - did you see this ?

He was told on 4 Nov 2020 that there were 100,000 more ballots to deliver

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alptraum - agree Jesse Morgan's story needs a hard look given his other videos