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Originally posted by az4783054:
In AZ, President Trump votes were switched to obiden votes, as witnessed by Maricopa County GOP chairwoman...

https://conservativedailypost....-in-maricopa-county/

The 135k votes counted in like 5 seconds was pretty cool too. The voting machines evidently have a ludicrous speed setting.

The gal that was contracted by Dominion speaks with conviction of the heart that only comes from complete confidence in knowing what is the truth as a eye witness. No fear of tripping over a lie because she has told none.

Up to 280,000 Ballots ‘Disappeared’ After Being Transported From NY to Pennsylvania: Amistad Project Director

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...irector_3600718.html

Phill Kline, the director of the legal group Thomas More Society’s Amistad Project, claimed that as many as 280,000 ballots were transported from New York to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where the ballots “disappeared.”

Kline, a former district attorney and Kansas attorney general, said he received evidence that between “130,000 to 280,000 completed ballots for the 2020 general election were shipped from Bethpage, New York, to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where those ballots and the trailer in which they were shipped disappeared” on Oct. 21. Kline cited the statements from whistleblowers, including USPS subcontractor truck drivers.

Kline also asserted in a news release that USPS workers engaged in “widespread illegal efforts” to influence the election. At least one of the whistleblowers said that they transported thousands of prefilled ballots across state lines, which, if true, would be a federal crime.

Kline said that they will share this information with law enforcement, including the FBI, U.S. attorneys in other areas, and local prosecutors “who are aware of our evidence.”

The FBI has not responded to a request for comment. The Epoch Times also reached out to the USPS for comment.

One purported whistleblower, Jesse Morgan, a truck driver for a subcontractor with the USPS, said he was driving a truck filled with upward of 288,000 ballots, according to Just The News. The truck—and ballots—disappeared from a parked location in Lancaster at a USPS depot after he dropped it there, he said.

Morgan said he transported those ballots from a facility in Bethpage.

Morgan added that USPS personnel exhibited “odd behaviors” that “grossly deviate[d] from normal procedure and behavior.”

Later, Kline brought up Greg Stenstrom, a former U.S. Navy officer who worked as a Republican poll watcher in Pennsylvania’s Delaware County. He said he saw numerous irregularities, including an instance of officials in a Delaware County counting room refusing to allow him and other observers to observe their tabulation efforts.

He also said he saw 60,000 to 70,000 unopened mail-in ballots being held in a back room days after the election count. “They remain unaccounted for,” Stenstrom said. “Where did these mail-in ballots come from and where did they go?”

“At one point, I saw unsecured USB drives … comingled together by election workers,” he said, adding that it “corrupted the chain of custody.” Objections to law enforcement officers and election officials were not answered, Stenstrom said. He made similar allegations in a meeting with GOP senators in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, a week ago.

The event was hosted by Thomas More Society’s Amistad Project, a legal group, on Tuesday in Arlington, Virginia. The Amistad Project has filed lawsuits in several states in recent weeks, including one on Nov. 26 in Michigan.

Democrat Attorney General Josh Kaul accused the group of trying to disenfranchise voters in a previous Wisconsin lawsuit filed by Kline about alleged systematic efforts in the state to evade voting laws.

“No investigation starts with a conclusion … every investigation begins with questions,” Kline said as he chastised media outlets and others who have denounced witness testimony about election fraud.

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Originally posted by liner:
Bill Barr today said no evidence of enough fraud to change the election outcome TOO DATE. I guess there is no doubt whose team he is on. Unbelievable.
It’s not possible for Barr, Christopher Wray, the DOJ, and the FBI to be more worthless and rotten to the core.

I think Trump knew this from the start which is why he never asked Barr and the DOJ or Wray and the FBI to investigate anything. He knew they most likely come back with little to no evidence and hurt him in the PR battle and that's exactly what appears to be happening.

Now this will be used as another hammer by the left and the media. Even Trumps own DOJ and FBI says there is not enough evidence.

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Originally posted by EZ_B:



Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...HI&feature=emb_title

Im not sure this lady is helping our cause. She needs serious coaching on how to explain the things she saw and also to be more respectful when engaging with people. She talked over multiple people and said the 91 yo temp worker who was with her was from both TN and TX.

I appreciate her authenticity, testimony, courageousness to testify, and how raw she is but I can see how she could easily be called a wackjob.

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Bill Barr today said no evidence of enough fraud to change the election outcome TO DATE.

Trump's lawyers, Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, rebuked Barr in a statement after the AP story was published.

"With all due respect to the attorney general, there hasn't been a semblance of a Department of Justice investigation," they wrote. "We have gathered ample evidence of illegal voting in at least six states, which they have not examined."

But in the AP interview, Barr appeared to preempt that argument and said that the court system, rather than the federal law enforcement apparatus, is the best venue for the Trump campaign to pursue its specific legal claims.

"There's a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all, and people don't like something they want the Department of Justice to come in and 'investigate,'" Barr said, adding that "most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. They are not systemic allegations."

https://www.businessinsider.co...-in-election-2020-12

"The current investigation, a criminal probe, had begun very broadly but has since “narrowed considerably” and now “really is focused on the activities of the crossfire hurricane investigation within the FBI.""

Durham to issue public report of findings.

Catherine Herridge: Barr appoints Durham special counsel to keep investigating Russia probe origins under new administration.

a special counsel can be fired only by the attorney general and for specific reasons such as misconduct, dereliction of duty or conflict of interest. An attorney general must document such reasons in writing.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
But in the AP interview, Barr appeared to preempt that argument and said that the court system, rather than the federal law enforcement apparatus

Well there you go folks. No need for law enforcement, just need the courts.... Say, anyone have any idea how these criminals are supposed to be caught, or is he hoping that wrong doers just turn themselves in to the courts for prosecution?

Here is the complete statement:

more on Giuliani comments about Barr:

"With all due respect to the Attorney General, there hasn’t been any semblance of a Department of Justice investigation. We have gathered ample evidence of illegal voting in at least six states, which they have not examined. We have many witnesses swearing under oath they saw crimes being committed in connection with voter fraud. As far as we know, not a single one has been interviewed by the DOJ. The Justice Department also hasn’t audited any voting machines or used their subpoena powers to determine the truth.

Nonetheless, we will continue our pursuit of the truth through the judicial system and state legislatures, and continue toward the Constitution’s mandate and ensuring that every legal vote is counted and every illegal vote is not. Again, with the greatest respect to the Attorney General, his opinion appears to be without any knowledge or investigation of the substantial irregularities and evidence of systemic fraud."

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Barr had said: “Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. They are not systemic allegations [and] those have been run down; they are being run down,” he added. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”

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Giuliani is completely right. You can't look at what is being discovered as individual unrelated pieces. This DEM attempt at election stealing was a coordinated effort over multiple states. Barr's reference to "fraud particularized to a particular set of circumstances" is just not relevant to the numerous ways the vote was swayed in key metropolitan areas.

Barr’s response gave me a feeling of abandonment and betrayal. That really took the wind out of my sails. I gotta be honest. Why have a DOJ if there’s no rule of law?

Barr is just another swamp creature. That's why. Durham, same, and in hiding now, riding it out hoping to see Biden sworn in on Jan 20th so that he can gut his sham investigation. No one could have realized how deeply corrupt our government is.

Barr, Haspel, Wray and all the swamp rats need to get the pink slip right after President Trump starts his second term.

Remember, a criminal case requires 'beyond a reasonable doubt' and most prosecutors use the standard of 'a reasonable likelihood of conviction'.

A civil case requires 'a preponderance of the evidence', a much lower standard of proof.

Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey refused to see or talk to Rudi Giuliani today. It is also reported that Ducey refused to take a call from Trump.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...ith-him_3600458.html

The swamp has control over our country. 2016 wasn't supposed to happen and they are making sure it doesn't happen again. God protected this country for a long time, but as a whole we have forgotten Him. Things aren't over, but prayer is the only way we prevail. Sadly, I think most people are forgetting that.

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Barr had said: “Most claims of fraud are very particularized

talk about a cold rain....

or as Shakespeare penned...."et tu.....AGBarr??"

Most rats would wait until the ship starts to sink before jumping off. Some of these Republicans don't even rise to that level, as they are trying their best to scuttle the SS Trump. What a sad bunch of characters.

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Originally posted by 12131:
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...riding it out hoping to see Biden sworn in on Jan 20th so that he can gut his sham investigation.

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Likely this. Nothing is going to stop 1/20/21 from getting here. They know that if they can just managed to shoehorn ol' Sleepy in - all of this...all we're seeing in the light of day...all of it...will attempted to be buried Day 1...deep. Never mind the past 4 years of Russia, Russia, Russia...shut up and move on.

$.02 worth

Boss

In regards to Barr, I'm not going to throw him to the wolves right now.

Keep this in mind; apparently, the Biden team is now receiving PDBs (Presidential Daily Briefings), which would include DOJ business. Which means IF Barr "did not see" any evidence, did not interview witnesses, or examine forensic evidence and data, he has nothing to report to the Biden team. Guiliani and Ellis's statement focuses on this very aspect; Barr has seen and knows nothing.

In the past, Barr has been outspoken about election fraud being a real thing, and the potential of foreign entities to undermine the ballot process. Hopefully he's still on Trump's side.

The USA is owned and run by a 2-party system, with each side feeding and enriching the other. Trump was the closest thing to a 3rd party President we have seen in our lifetimes, and if these election results are allowed to stand, he will be the last. This election wasn't about getting a Democrat/Biden elected - it was about removing the obstruction that was DJT so the swamp rats could reconvene with the dismantling of America and seizure of wealth and control.