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I spent half my life working and traveling Iowa and I just don’t understand how comrade Sanders is popular or even made it this far. Iowa folks are hard working people, they know nothing is free. I just don’t get his popularity in farm country.

I think you have to put it in perspective. Would your prefer the guy who has always been a corrupt, self-enriching, liar who is currently manifesting signs of Alzheimer's, the lying witch who claimed Indian ancestry to self-enrich, the obnoxious, gun-grabbing asshole attempting to buy the presidency, or ?

One thing about comrade Bernie. He is a fricking socialist loon, but he has been upfront about that for as long as I have known about him.

In any case, I believe that even with the Leftists' best efforts to lie, cheat, and steal the 2020 election President Donald J. Trump will absolutely crush and decimate whoever they put up. They got nothing!
 
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I spent half my life working and traveling Iowa and I just don’t understand how comrade Sanders is popular or even made it this far. Iowa folks are hard working people, they know nothing is free. I just don’t get his popularity in farm country.

I think you have to put it in perspective. Would your prefer the guy who has [yadda, yadda, yadda]....


Over a devout, self-avowed communist? 100% yes. I'll take the alzheimer patient all day, every day and twice on Sunday.


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https://thefederalist.com/2020...QHVZJFoyt32iang81jY8

Yes, Trump’s Acquittal Is Real, And It’s Spectacular

JANUARY 31, 2020 By David Marcus
The most amazing thing about Democrats and their allies in the media is that they never actually lose. Any time it seems like they lose, it’s actually the result of cheating and chicanery.

cont...




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Originally posted by recoatlift:
I spent half my life working and traveling Iowa and I just don’t understand how comrade Sanders is popular or even made it this far. Iowa folks are hard working people, they know nothing is free. I just don’t get his popularity in farm country.

I think you have to put it in perspective. Would your prefer the guy who has [yadda, yadda, yadda]....


Over a devout, self-avowed communist? 100% yes. I'll take the alzheimer patient all day, every day and twice on Sunday.


I too would prefer Biden as an opponent, however, I think Nunes is wrong. I think Bloomberg is being groomed for this election.




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I think Bloomberg is being groomed for this election.

Or at least trying to buy it.
 
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Originally posted by recoatlift:
I spent half my life working and traveling Iowa and I just don’t understand how comrade Sanders is popular or even made it this far. Iowa folks are hard working people, they know nothing is free. I just don’t get his popularity in farm country.

I think you have to put it in perspective. Would your prefer the guy who has [yadda, yadda, yadda]....


Over a devout, self-avowed communist? 100% yes. I'll take the alzheimer patient all day, every day and twice on Sunday.


I too would prefer Biden as an opponent, however, I think Nunes is wrong. I think Bloomberg is being groomed for this election.

Frankly, I don’t think it matters. Any of the ones currently in, Bill Clinton’s wife, Hussein’s wife, doesn’t matter. Not a one of them stands a chance.
 
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Frankly, I don’t think it matters. Any of the ones currently in, Bill Clinton’s wife, Hussein’s wife, doesn’t matter. Not a one of them stands a chance.


Well, yes. That does kind of make it all moot, doesn't it?


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I want Donald Trump to win, but I don't think anything is a lock in national politics. DEMs have too much $ and juice plus they are willing to play as dirty as it takes to win.

CTH has a couple reports up that argue the DNC is indeed opening the door for Bloomberg.

https://theconservativetreehou...aire-mike-bloomberg/

And so it begins… Billionaire Michael Bloomberg spent tens-of-millions in 2017 and 2018 to help elect House democrat candidates. Additionally, Bloomberg funds various political activist organizations for issue specifics like gun restrictions. The DNC and Bloomberg are like peas and carrots.

Remember, the DNC are RNC are private clubs. They can do anything they want, support anyone they want, and disavow anyone they want. Nothing matters more to the Club boardroom than dollars; and specifically how they can translate those dollars into power.

A week ago DNC President Tom Perez appointed Barney Frank to the rules committee. Frank then hired John Podesta.

Yesterday the rules committee changed the club rules allowing billionaire Michael Bloomberg to join the debates this month. Michael Moore is going bananas about the transparently corrupt dealing with the DNC

Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders now leads most polls in the key states where the democrat primary battle will begin. With the grassroots Bernie-AOC wing carrying all the enthusiasm and momentum time is running out for the DNC club

Despite the transparent hit-jobs by DNC operatives against him, Bernie is in position to win every early state and he has a clear and visible path to the nomination. But the club has made some conspicuous counter moves.

There were multiple motives for the Club to give Bloomberg the nod, but the most obvious was a firewall against the far-left caucus (AOC-Bernie).

Essentially, in case of an actual outbreak/breakout of socialism, break glass – insert Bloomberg.
 
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Yesterday the rules committee changed the club rules allowing billionaire Michael Bloomberg to join the debates this month. Michael Moore is going bananas about the transparently corrupt dealing with the DNC

Seriously? Money talks. The DNC is broke. Of course they let Bloomie in.



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I spent half my life working and traveling Iowa and I just don’t understand how comrade Sanders is popular or even made it this far. Iowa folks are hard working people, they know nothing is free. I just don’t get his popularity in farm country.


The larger urban areas in Iowa (there are some) are becoming increasingly populated by a) idiot University students and b) refugees from liberal shitholes like Seattle. Eastern Nebraska is considering building a wall.



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Bloomberg is only using the candidacy as a means of getting candidacy rates for his personal believe commercials. No way Mr-anti-large-soda gets within spitting distance of the Don /imo




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Frankly, I don’t think it matters. Any of the ones currently in, Bill Clinton’s wife, Hussein’s wife, doesn’t matter. Not a one of them stands a chance.


Well, yes. That does kind of make it all moot, doesn't it?

It does if PDJT crushes whoever they put up. (As I expect he will.). I’ve been mistaken before though.
 
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Bloomberg is only using the candidacy as a means of getting candidacy rates for his personal believe commercials. No way Mr-anti-large-soda gets within spitting distance of the Don /imo


I hope to God that's correct.
 
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WSJ opinion article by Rahm Emanuel

https://www.wsj.com/articles/d...r-chance-11580514064

Reform is often more effective than revolution

Amid the heated rhetoric now blowing through Iowa, Democrats appear to be losing sight of that.

we all share in the mission of using government’s tools to serve those who have been left behind

The next nine months will present our raucous coalition a rare opportunity to establish a new Democratic “metropolitan majority” that could last for years.

in an autocratic system, those in power have a free hand to enact an agenda without considering the electoral implications.

autocratic = dictator

But because the Constitution guarantees regular elections, progressives are compelled to build agendas that balance policy and politics.

In recent months both Presidents Clinton and Obama have come under withering criticism—not from conservatives but from Democrats arguing they were insufficiently progressive while in office. Set aside the unforced error of attacking fellow Democrats at a moment when retiring Donald Trump ought to be our singular goal.

like Comey's attempted coup, Mueller, Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, phony impeachment

The question before Democrats is whether to continue working in the same reform-oriented vein or to embrace the sort of revolutionary strategy that would have tanked in 1992 or 2008, but might work if the electorate is, as some believe, more left today than it is center-left.

Mr. Trump had targeted suburban and exurban voters in 2016 with scare tactics centered on guns, trade, immigration and crime.

Democrats won them back by reassuring them that we would pursue sensible solutions to real problems

At the state level, the efficacy of that reform-oriented strategy is now on display in Virginia, where the General Assembly, now controlled by Democrats, is making real progress on gun safety.

Sen. Bernie Sanders and his supporters don’t believe Democrats need to account for the more-moderate sensibilities of these suburban and exurban voters. In their view, the electorate isn’t center-left anymore—it is a Loud Left, waiting to be heard.

today’s landscape is much friendlier for progressive ideas than it was when either Mr. Clinton or Mr. Obama was running for office. Yet we risk squandering that opportunity fighting pointless battles over whether these successful presidents properly calibrated their agendas to yesterday’s limitations

the coming campaign is bound to be difficult

Mr. Trump’s consistently low job approval suggests he is uniquely vulnerable. But with unemployment hovering near record lows, the Democratic nominee will need both substance and style that contrast well with Mr. Trump’s conflict and chaos.

standard DEM talking points. enabled and amplified by massive efforts by the deep state to create "conflict and chaos". Ciaramella, Vindman, Fiona Hill, etc


The country appears poised for the sort of political realignment Messrs. Clinton and Obama could only dream about. Many suburban women, for instance, regret empowering a president who ended up tearing children from their parents at the border.

But to establish a metropolitan majority progressives need to seize the opportunity with the right candidate and the right approach. As Democrats prepare to vote in caucuses and primaries, let’s apply the lessons of the recent past to the near future. Presidents Clinton and Obama struck major blows for the cause of progressivism. It will be our nominee’s unique responsibility to carry the torch further.

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Obama is scared of Sanders. They will go all out to stop Sanders

Standard "talking points" to attack Donald Trump (see Comey's opinion piece in Wash Post)

"Metropolitan majority" is the DEM focus

Suburban women - oh how terrible to have to deal w the illegal immigration flood opened up by Obama to fuel DEM votes

such regret that DEMs don't have dictatorial power but need to worry about that bothersome old constitution.

Let's repeat our success in Virginia to all over the country to make "real progress"

This is a very insightful view into DEM thinking
 
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Any Democrat with any sense is waking up to the fact it's getting to be show time and they don't have a viable general election candidate on the stage.
They see Bloomberg as the only hope and he can self-fund, leaving their other dollars for use elsewhere.
I think this latest strategy is right for them. The real battle is for turnout of the base and the 10% or so in the middle that can be swayed. I don't see this helping with their base as they will feel betrayed (and will be). Some, as always, will return to vote the party while holding their nose.
I see them taking the temperature of the Bloomberg support, doing the math quickly, then going all out to torpedo the others if he has any traction at all.
They really don't have a choice at this point.


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Any Democrat with any sense is waking up to the fact it's getting to be show time and they don't have a viable general election candidate on the stage.
They see Bloomberg as the only hope and he can self-fund, leaving their other dollars for use elsewhere.

I think that's right... but Bernie has shown the ability to collect small donations from the loonie left (which, unfortunately, seems to be rather large).

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The real battle is for turnout of the base and the 10% or so in the middle that can be swayed. I don't see this helping with their base as they will feel betrayed (and will be). Some, as always, will return to vote the party while holding their nose.

Yeah... If Bernie is betrayed again, if the process is perceived as unfair (as it was tipped in favor of Hillary by super-delegates in 2016) many of the Bernie Bros will sit out, or even vote for Trump out of spite.



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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One of the American Postal Workers Unions Endorses Bernie Sanders for President

https://www.breitbart.com/2020...nders-for-president/

The American Postal Workers Union (APWU) endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) for the Democratic Party’s 2020 nomination for president on Thursday.

the APWU, also AFL-CIO-affiliated, which represents 200,000 current and retired USPS employees. “APWU members belong to the Clerk, Maintenance, Motor Vehicle Service (MVS), or Support Services divisions,” according to the union’s website.

There are seven different unions that represent USPS employees.

The two largest unions are the AFL-CIO-affiliated National Association of Letter Carriers (NALC), which has 270,000 members (including both current and retired USPS employees), and the APWU

“The U.S. Postal Service lost more than $2 billion during the second quarter of the fiscal year, putting it on track to finish the current year more than $7 billion in the red—way worse than the nearly $4 billion in losses it posted last year,” Reason.com reported in May.

“The U.S. Postal Service lost $8.8 billion in fiscal 2019, more than doubling its losses from the previous year,” Government Executive reported in November.

The APWU endorsement of Sanders was not unexpected as the 200,000-member union endorsed him for president in 2016, but the timing, coming just days before Monday’s Iowa caucuses, added to the perception that momentum is growing for the Sanders campaign.
 
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Don't forget Hillary. She could still throw her hat in the ring. She's aadmitted she's been considering it. If Bernie does well in the early voting, she just might do it.

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