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Pretty sure this is all Lefty's fault. I think he's Patient Zero... | |||
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I understand we can't trust the Chinese regarding most anything but could the urn thing possibly be like the hoarding of toilet paper here? _____________________ Be careful what you tolerate. You are teaching people how to treat you. | |||
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Wuhan is a city of 11 million people. Just because people are dying of coronavirus doesn't mean they stop dying of other stuff, too. It is concerning, but if mortuaries were cremating people for a month or two and not able to move the urns out, there'd be big piles of them even without coronavirus. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
... for which grieving family members waited in line for as long as five hours to collect, according to Shanghaiist. Urns are reportedly being distributed at a rate of 500 a day at the mortuary until the Tomb Sweeping Day holiday, which falls on April 4 this year. Wuhan has seven other mortuaries. If they are all sticking to the same schedule, this adds up to more than 40,000 urns being distributed in the city over the next 10 days. When reporters at Bloomberg made calls to the funeral homes to check on the number of urns waiting to be collected, the mortuaries said that they either did not have that data or were not authorized to disclose it. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Good grief Oh well, their "leadership" had to DO SOMETHING, and now they've done it. It's worthless and counter-productive, but they did DO SOMETHING. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
The Chinese have caught the North Korean flu. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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10mm is The Boom of Doom |
I can't believe Chinese communists would lie. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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God will always provide |
Florida Gov. Desantas is getting serious with the virus spreaders fleeing their big cities. Don't blame them for fleeing but at least live by the current fear driven mandates. Whether you like them or not. Similar to when your in the house, you follow house rules or leave. +++LINK+++ Florida coronavirus cases pass 4000: state border checkpoints begin, vacation rentals halted James Call USA TODAY NETWORK-Florida Capital Bureau When the number of coronavirus deaths reached 54 in Florida on Saturday, Gov. Ron DeSantis told the state's surgeon general, Dr. Scott Rivkees, to get on the phone and send a public health alert to every Florida resident. The message Rivkees texted Saturday afternoon was a repeat of the advisory he issued Wednesday, that people 65 and older, and those with underlying medical conditions, should stay home and avoid crowds, and everyone should practice "social distancing." By Saturday evening, the number of coronavirus cases in Florida stood at 4,038, more than a fivefold increase from a week ago, when the state reported 706 infections. The death count creeped up to 56. The virus has been particularly fatal for those over the age of 65, with that group making up 89% of statewide deaths. Another 35% were between the ages of 55 and 74, while people younger made up 4% of the fatalities and those over 85 were 19% of deaths. “Protect yourself. Now is not the time to go outside. Don’t get involved in any big crowds, use this time to protect yourself,” DeSantis said in a briefing live-streamed from his conference room in the Capitol. DeSantis and public health officials are in a race to control the spread of the virus before it overwhelms the ability of hospitals and health care professionals to deliver care. On Friday, he issued an executive order expanding a previous directive that airline travelers from the New York City area self-quarantine for 14 days to include people from Louisiana who enter the state on Interstate 10. The order would not apply to commercial transportation. New Orleans is experiencing a coronavirus surge of more than 1,000 infections linked to the Mardi Gras celebration in February, sending Louisiana's total number of cases past 3,300 as of Saturday. DeSantis wants to intercept any Louisiana travelers from “seeding” the virus in Florida. It's about a three-hour drive from New Orleans to Pensacola, Florida, and panhandle officials had expressed concerns to him about travelers fleeing the Bayou State and carrying the virus into Florida. “Look, we’re either trying to fight this virus or we are not,” DeSantis said of his plan that includes a checkpoint on Interstate 10 at the Alabama line and National Guard members greeting travelers from the New York City area at airports. “We’ve done what we could with New York City and we’re also doing the same with the New Orleans hot spot,” DeSantis said. Bourbon Street is empty on March 16 as Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards orders bars, gyms and casinos to close until April 13th due to the spread of the coronavirus. His executive orders defined the greater New York City area and Louisiana as areas with substantial community spread. Individuals traveling from those regions must "self-declare" they came from a hot spot and agree to quarantine themselves for 14 days upon arrival in Florida. A violation could mean a 60-day jail sentence and fines of up to $500. Signs were erected along I-10 to direct eastbound drivers to a checkpoint where they were notified about the requirement. DeSantis said he was also looking at establishing one on I-95 to catch New York travelers. But while the Georgia Public Health Department has called Albany, 88 miles north of Tallahassee, a region with "sustained community spread” of the coronavirus, DeSantis shrugged about establishing a checkpoint on I-75. And his office did not respond to questions about U.S. 319. Both thoroughfares connect north Florida to Albany. “Having the 10 and 95 (checkpoints) is good and I think that provides the protection,” DeSantis said when asked about other routes into the state. The governor also called on local airport authorities and airlines to help identify travelers from hotspots. The National Guard and public health officials are stationed at major airports and DeSantis called on local airport authorities to help to screen arrivals at smaller airports like Tallahassee's for contact with hot zones. “I think it is in everybody’s interest that we deal with the spread we have now, try to blunt it, flatten the curve, but we don’t allow importing new infections,” DeSantis said. On Friday, he said the state would suspend vacation rentals for two weeks, telling visitors, "If you're in one now, finish and go home." Gov. Ron DeSantis holds a press conference to address the latest updates on how COVID-19 is impacting Florida and what steps his team is taking to prevent the spread of the virus, Friday, March 20, 2020. Despite a growing support among lawmakers to do so, DeSantis has refused to issue a statewide lockdown limiting residents' movements like 22 other states have done in some fashion. Instead, he has preferred to let local governments decide. At least 10 counties have imposed some form of restriction, closing non-essential businesses and advising residents to stay home. Local restrictions are tight in South Florida with orders in place in Broward and Miami-Dade counties, which report nearly half of the state’s infections. Hillsborough and Pinellas counties have also issued directives as have Orange and Osceola counties in Central Florida. Some communities, including Leon County, have also imposed curfews, and many have threatened to enforce with arrests or fines as high as $500. | |||
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^^^^ A co-worker has older family living in The Village in Florida near Orlando. They said that TONS of New Yorkers and New Jersey residents have fled to the area renting apartments to escape the draconian measures up north. This is very concerning to them because The Village is basically a huge retirement community with mostly older-elderly residents previously somewhat protected from outside contact. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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It's not you, it's me. |
My friend who has it from the texts on the previous page is from North Jersey, he’s currently at a hospital in the absolute south of NJ. He went south to get away from the craziness | |||
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Only the strong survive |
Dr Mercola and Dr Saul on the use of Vitamin C for Coronavirus Story at-a-glance The only real defense against COVID-19 is your own immune system, which works best when fed right. While changing your diet is a commonsense solution for the long term, a rapid-response strategy would be to use vitamin C Vitamin C strengthens your immune system and kills pathogens, including viruses, when taken in high doses Other important immune boosting nutrients are vitamin D, magnesium and zinc A Korean doctor who’s giving patients and hospital staff 100,000 IUs of vitamin D and 20 to 24 grams of vitamin C by IV reports virus-infected patients are getting well in a matter of days If you own a sauna, now’s the time to put it to regular use. By increasing your core body temperature, which is what happens when you have a fever, your body becomes more efficient at killing pathogens https://articles.mercola.com/s...112&et_rid=839719054 41 | |||
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10mm is The Boom of Doom |
Color me skeptical. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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SIGforum's Berlin Correspondent |
https://horizon-magazine.eu/ar...tbreak-research.html Nextstrain SARS-CoV-2 epidemiology Cellphone tracking of ski vacationers leaving Ischgl, Austria, who spread the virus across Europe; in some countries, half of the initial cases could be traced there. | |||
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Mercola is an alternative health guy whose business is promoting the diet pills and health supplements that he sells. Saul isn't an MD, he has what his own website describes as a "non-traditional PhD in Ethology (behavioral biology)." | |||
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Wait, what? |
“Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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French Official Says Quarantine Should Not Be Enforced In Migrant Areas To Avoid Riots https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...nt-areas-avoid-riots A top government official in France has admitted that draconian lockdown measures being imposed on the rest of the population shouldn’t be implemented in the country’s migrant-heavy ghettos in order to prevent riots. In a separate video conference call, Nunez told other officials that restricting movement and shutting down shops in France’s infamous banlieues risks igniting violent social disorder if enforced too rigorously. A regional defense zone prefect who was in on the call agreed that businesses that had been closed down in other areas of France should remain open in poorer neighborhoods in order to help with “social mediation.” “This undermining of the laws that Macron declared as essential, this clear disregard for the population as a whole, comes at a time when police, ambulance and firefighters face record levels of hostility when they venture into the suburbs where gangs set cars on fire then attack them when they arrive to help,” writes Damian Wilson. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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During cold and flu season I take an extra 2000 mg/day of vitamin C. I also take 2000 IU of vitamin D per day in wintertime as I get very little sun. I take 500 mg of magnesium every other day, mainly to reduce the incidence of charlie horses. Our multi-vitamin contains 11 mg of zinc. Since the onset of SARS-CoV-2 I also take a table spoon of elderberry juice daily. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Just for the hell of it |
What a cluster fuck they have made. Maybe this is their way of thinning the herd. You have areas where you afraid to enforce laws that could save lives. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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Most people act as if you get this, YOU ARE GOING TO DIE! Yet, the death rate is 1.4% So let's freak out and ruin more lives by shutting everything down! Oh wait, that's not rational. I would assume most are sitting back, reading and trying to keep up with the mountain of posts to this thread everyday. I know I'm in that camp and appriciate erj_pilot for trying to keep the situation grounded. It seems as if this situation and the media has infected some of the members here. Causing undue harm to themselves and fanning the flame to keep the fire burning. Others have fire extinguishers and are trying to get the situation under control and back to normal again. We all need to take a deep breathe and look at the facts instead of the sensationalisms. This is happening and sadly, it's not going to go away overnight. So, dont let the 'game' get out of hand. Wishing everybody a safe outcome. <<Backing away and going back to my cage.>> | |||
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Excitable Boy |
I've been following this thread since day one but have avoided posting in it like the coronavirus. (Ha, see what I did there? ) Anyway here is my 2 cents- Been following news of this crap since it was affecting only China. I picked up some extra TP and hand sanitizer back in February, about that same time I stopped the practice of shaking hands with folks. Does that make me hysterical? I don't feel panicked. Just seemed prudent to me, same as strapping on a pistol to run to the grocery store. I doubt many here on this forum would call that irrational. I'm wishing now that I would have stocked up a little more on basic essentials so I could avoid the stores longer. I hate being sick, haven't really even had a cold for the last couple years and I attribute that to my practice basic common sense approach to basic hygiene. My job has had me in just about every type laboratory environment over the last 25 years, now working full time on the central campus of a major university, I look at all those kids and they are NASTY carriers of all kinds of stuff I don't want. Nobody has to tell me to wash my hands and to not touch my face. Thankfully, the kids were sent packing weeks ago. I'm under 60 but have high blood pressure. I had bacterial pneumonia once when I was in my 20's. I sure am not interested in going through that again now in my 50's. Did I mention I hate being sick? Look at all of the information about this crap that there is out there. It's staggering, Overwhelming. Every social media venue has statisticians, infectious disease experts and just plain folks that are damn smarter than everyone else coming out of the woodwork with opinions and nary one of them agrees with any of the others. The statistics are shit. How can they be anything else without complete testing? I'm just watching the daily death counts and I'm seeing the story. This is not nothing. This is something. I guess that opinion makes me "hysterical". Put me in the doomer camp. Shoot, I better get around to cleaning my rifle. I'm still working but my retirement funds have been set back 3 years and I don't think it's done yet. I plan to retire in 5 so I'm hoping for the best in spite of all of the usual commie assholes doing what they do, taking advantage of this crisis to further enhance their wealth and power. The good news the university is a ghost town, traffic is nearly non-existent and you can park any damn where you want in Ann Arbor any day of the week now, Ha. When all this blows over in a few weeks, months?, Years? I'll look back with nostalgia on that part. China is Asshoe | |||
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