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These people are nothing less than lying traitors trying to protect themselves for when the cover eventually blows off. On one hand they let us know the “vaccines” may not be as effective as we were ALL led to believe, but in the other they let the more gullible think poisoning their children is a good idea.

https://www.govexec.com/oversi...dren-under-5/362709/

The article is fairly lengthy so I won’t waste space posting the body of it. Needless to say, some of these people are truly mentally ill.

WILLFUL omission of fact and truth is still a LIE!!! Oddly enough, it's called "Lying by omission".

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
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These people are nothing less than lying traitors trying to protect themselves for when the cover eventually blows off. On one hand they let us know the “vaccines” may not be as effective as we were ALL led to believe, but in the other they let the more gullible think poisoning their children is a good idea.

https://www.govexec.com/oversi...dren-under-5/362709/

The article is fairly lengthy so I won’t waste space posting the body of it. Needless to say, some of these people are truly mentally ill.

You are fooling yourself if you think “the cover is going to blow off”. No one will be held accountable.

Nobody will remember. Look at the number of posters who around page 400 were pissing and moaning because you weren’t giving up your Rights fast enough to save grandpa. Not even as much as an apology for being wrong from them.

Oh look, American Idol is on.....

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Oh look, American Idol is on.....

I think the go-to now is The Voice.

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Originally posted by jljones:
You are fooling yourself if you think “the cover is going to blow off”. No one will be held accountable.

Nobody will remember. Look at the number of posters who around page 400 were pissing and moaning because you weren’t giving up your Rights fast enough to save grandpa. ***Not even as much as an apology for being wrong from them.***

History is recorded by the victor. In this case the conditions of victory are simply survival. If you believe that wearing a mask, getting a or a few shots, and skipping gatherings was what made you survive then that is what you will credit for the continuation of society as we know it. I don't see many people lining up to apologize for saving society.

My strongly held personal belief is that given the smallest opportunity those in power will find a way to exercise that power over us simple fucks, and that if it is possible to make a buck (or a staggering number of them) off of someones suffering there are those that will find a way.

“ You are fooling yourself if you think “the cover is going to blow off”. No one will be held accountable.”

You misunderstand what I mean by “blow the cover off”. I don’t believe for a second that those that hoodwinked the American people will be held accountable, but I do believe that the so called science of the “vaccines” is being exposed day by day. Some time in the future, the evidence will become irrefutable that more harm than good came from them which I believe will accepted.

For the moment, it is limited to “the vaccinated are getting sick repeatedly whereas the unvaccinated are staying healthier longer”. I talk to people that have changed their rabid “vaccine and mask” stance in the face of evidence they cannot refute. Who knows what a year or three more will bring? High incidence of birth defects? Increased autoimmune disease in the vaccinated? Or increased incidence of cancers of the same? That’s what I refer to when I say “blow the cover off”. The long term repercussions will be irrefutable if and when they come.

The war is being used very effectively to push everything Covid into obscurity. I believe everyone involved who pushed all the restrictions and mandates are now doing everything possible to distract the public from seeing what is being exposed daily. Many evil people are at risk of being discovered, so this war is being pumped as a distraction.

Really, how much did anybody care about any other Russian belligerence in the past decade? It made the news for a couple of days but we went about our lives as usual. Suddenly we get 24/7 OMG WWIII on all the media outlets.

Watching various outlets, we see that there is increasing data showing what we all already know here but which the masses have been shielded from. New studies almost daily which under other circumstances would have the media in a feeding frenzy to get some powerful people taken down.

I don't like what Putin is doing at all, so don't misunderstand that. The powerful elite are protecting their kin from swinging from nooses for crimes against humanity.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
“ You are fooling yourself if you think “the cover is going to blow off”. No one will be held accountable.”

You misunderstand what I mean by “blow the cover off”. I don’t believe for a second that those that hoodwinked the American people will be held accountable, but I do believe that the so called science of the “vaccines” is being exposed day by day. Some time in the future, the evidence will become irrefutable that more harm than good came from them which I believe will accepted.

For the moment, it is limited to “the vaccinated are getting sick repeatedly whereas the unvaccinated are staying healthier longer”. I talk to people that have changed their rabid “vaccine and mask” stance in the face of evidence they cannot refute. Who knows what a year or three more will bring? High incidence of birth defects? Increased autoimmune disease in the vaccinated? Or increased incidence of cancers of the same? That’s what I refer to when I say “blow the cover off”. The long term repercussions will be irrefutable if and when they come.

Or nothing happens. No mass cancer rates. No massive deaths to blame on the vaccine.

I’m to the point I believe no one but close friends in the medical field. No experts. Not claims that only the vaccinated get sick and the unvaccinated are staying healthy. That is not at all what went on on local hospitals.

I just don’t care anymore. I do think if the “jab” does not cause massive deaths there will be some anti-jabbers that will be near suicidal because they were so sure it was going to happen.

Most of them threw around “jab” and “poke” because it was trendy and was a great way to virtue signal how anti-woke they are. It’s the kind of stuff that’ll drive you crazy if you let it.

There is no data that exists on any of this that is reliable IMO. It’s all been massaged on one side or the other. People have become so entrenched in positions on this.

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Originally posted by jljones:
I’m to the point I believe no one but close friends in the medical field. No experts. Not claims that only the vaccinated get sick and the unvaccinated are staying healthy. That is not at all what went on on local hospitals.

Now, tell me- just who is claiming such a thing? Who is claiming that only the vaccinated get sick and the unvaccinated are staying healthy?

It’s on the post I quoted.

And if you go back to last fall early winter in was said several times in this thread. Something to the effect that the vaccinated was being hospitalized at a rate greater than unvaccinated. The vaccinated were getting sicker than the unvaccinated.

I don't get that from gearhound's post and I know of no one in this forum who has ever claimed that "only the vaccinated get sick and the unvaccinated are staying healthy."

As the saying goes, opinions are like assholes, and I've no doubt that some people, somewhere, have made outrageous claims like that, but I'd estimate the number to be small and I know of no one here who has ever spoken in absolute terms about such things. If you want to take the time to search through the more than 21,000 posts in this thread, I'd be interested in seeing any such claims. Though I have followed this thread quite closely, I make no claim at being able to retain 1058 pages of comments in my memory. However, I tend to address preposterous claims as they appear, so I'm doubtful that I let any such remarks pass without comment.

I do know from personal experience that the “vaccines” don’t work as advertised. I have direct evidence from people I know and am related to have gotten the wuflu not long after “vaccination” and even “boosting”. A very good friends father in law just died who was fully vaccinated, whatever the hell that is supposed to mean with the snake oil. My brother in law is just getting over his second case within 3 months despite being fully “vaccinated”. A co-worker lost his grandmother after, you guessed it, full “vaccination”.

Yes, “vaccinated” people are getting sick. I’m not “vaccinated” and got the crud this past November. It wasn’t fun but was only about as bad as any flu I’ve had. Within a few days, a fully “vaccinated” co-worker came down with it as well. I have been in close proximity to people since recovering that were Covid positive completely without fear or even concern since that time without suffering even a sniffle. In fact, I would happily challenge ANYONE that has been “vaccinated” to waltz along side me through a Covid ward without any kind of protection beyond their faith in “vaccines” that clearly do not work as advertised, or as they are traditionally supposed to work. I haven’t the slightest doubt that natural immunity will protect me from infection far better than this garbage. Natural immunity is actual science and has been ignored from the beginning because it makes the people at the top no money. What these people that brought it to us are practicing is not science.

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Originally posted by jljones:
It’s on the post I quoted.

And if you go back to last fall early winter in was said several times in this thread. Something to the effect that the vaccinated was being hospitalized at a rate greater than unvaccinated. The vaccinated were getting sicker than the unvaccinated.

The data from Israel was essentially indicating just that as I recall.

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Or nothing happens. No mass cancer rates. No massive deaths to blame on the vaccine.

I’ve wondered why we didn’t see more NFL players go down this year, as we did with European soccer players, if athletes were particularly susceptible to cardiac issues after taking the vaccines? Seems someone is not exactly telling the truth. Europe was all in for the mandatory vaccinations. Their sports figures complied for the most part, as evidenced by any number of youtube vids and news headlines. The NFL (just to name one sport) “said” they required the vaccines but I didn’t hear of one case of any complications. Have you?
Just another head scratcher in this whole mess.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

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Originally posted by jljones:
It’s on the post I quoted.

And if you go back to last fall early winter in was said several times in this thread. Something to the effect that the vaccinated was being hospitalized at a rate greater than unvaccinated. The vaccinated were getting sicker than the unvaccinated.

The data from Israel was essentially indicating just that as I recall.

If you’ve vaccinated nearly 100% of the population with a solution that still allows for some infection, that’s the statistic that will follow. I believe that was the case there.

Lies, damn lies and statistics you know.

The vast majority of the people that I know who contracted Covid in Dec-Jan-Feb had received 2 or 3 rounds of the Pfizer/Moderna mRNA injections. (a couple got bad bouts of the traditional FLU as well)

This is consistent with what I am hearing from others.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

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Originally posted by jljones:
It’s on the post I quoted.

And if you go back to last fall early winter in was said several times in this thread. Something to the effect that the vaccinated was being hospitalized at a rate greater than unvaccinated. The vaccinated were getting sicker than the unvaccinated.

The data from Israel was essentially indicating just that as I recall.

If you’ve vaccinated nearly 100% of the population with a solution that still allows for some infection, that’s the statistic that will follow. I believe that was the case there.

Lies, damn lies and statistics you know.

Actually, only about 70% of the Israeli population was 'fully vaccinated', but the key difference w/ their COVID data, was the nearly everyone that was vaccinated received the Phizer shot, so they essentially had a perfect data set for a vaccine trial.

Oh, and a shit ton of vaccinated individuals were getting infected w/ COVID...

“Oh, and a shit ton of vaccinated individuals were getting infected w/ COVID...”

And re-infected with Covid. That has been my personal experience. I know several people that have been re-infected despite “vaccination”. I don’t (again, personally) know a single person that opted out of the “vaccines” that has been reinfected. I’m sure it has happened; but for the government and medical industry in this country to call this the “pandemic of the unvaccinated” is an absurdity. It smacks of an agenda, not science.

The vaccines didn't perform very well, but the folks in power don't really care about vaccines. The takeaway should have been that our freedoms are mostly an illusion and that fear can easily enslave all of us. It was a novel pathogen and much of the response can be accepted as well intentioned, but the political leaders in the U.S. failed their citizens on a massive scale. We reacted to this pandemic pretty much like all the other shitholes around the world...the whole disgusting exercise was modeled on the Chinese response. So much for American exceptionalism. We could have reacted in a smart, targeted way and possibly provided the rest of the world with a model to pattern their own responses. Instead, we got Fauci and hysteria...individual liberties be damned.