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1 of the 2 candidates has a proven record of "Pay to Play" behavior.

The "TheFederalist" article seems to put more weight \ concern on the source of the information not the content of the information. hilary's already proven to have been bought buy the russians and delivered what they wanted.


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I believe she signed the declaration "on information and belief" which is a much looser standard. She is "informed" such and so is true, and "believes" that it is.


Ok, if that's the case then I guess that's the end, she'll get away with another in the really long list of felonies committed. I thought she swore to that in front of a judge during one of the FOIA lawsuits.
 
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I believe she signed the declaration "on information and belief" which is a much looser standard. She is "informed" such and so is true, and "believes" that it is.


Ok, if that's the case then I guess that's the end, she'll get away with another in the really long list of felonies committed. I thought she swore to that in front of a judge during one of the FOIA lawsuits.


It was a declaration in one of the FOIA suits, having to do with e-mails. I believe I posted it or a link here about a year ago.

Here is a link from WaPo.




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She's 7 years my senior and apparently experiencing some health issues. My wish that I'm still above the ground while she is being put in it seems to be a much closer reality than her ever experiencing a single ounce of retribution for her crimes.

How anyone at this point can fool themselves into believing or hoping that a scandal of her own creation is going to ruin her is baffling to me.


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1 of the 2 candidates has a proven record of "Pay to Play" behavior.

The "TheFederalist" article seems to put more weight \ concern on the source of the information not the content of the information. hilary's already proven to have been bought buy the russians and delivered what they wanted.


Guliani has been quoted as saying that she has been bought so much, there is nothing left of her.

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losing more respect for the FBI w every new report

http://www.washingtontimes.com...1lUzBSWmIyQkE9In0%3D

The FBI went to bat for Hillary Clinton on Tuesday, saying that handling emails with classified information — even when it’s marked — isn’t enough to prove she had “knowledge or intent” to break the law.

In a letter to congressional investigators, the FBI’s chief liaison to Capitol Hill said Mrs. Clinton did handle three messages with a “(C)” mark next to paragraphs, “ostensibly indicating” the following information as classified. But Jason V. Herring said that’s not enough to show she was negligent.

Mr. Herring also questioned whether the laws against handling classified material in a “grossly negligent” way would hold up in court, saying the FBI has long been suspect.

“The fact that Secretary Clinton received emails containing ‘(C)’ portion markings is not clear evidence of knowledge or intent,” Mr. Herring said in a letter to House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz, a Republican, and Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the ranking Democrat.

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For anyone who routinely deals w classified material, if you saw (C) in front of a paragraph while you were on an unclassified system, that would be an immediate alert to get resolved.

One of the most damning things about Clinton's email is that w over 2,000 classified emails on an unclassified private system, she has never indicated that even once she said "gee, is this ok to have on this system?".

2,000 opportunities to observe something may be wrong and she fails every time. If she had brought any of those to the attention of security reps, they should have started to correct the problem.

And for Mr Herring, grossly negligent handling of TS/SCI material can get people killed and/or major intel capabilities can be completely defeated by adversaries.
 
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2 of the 2 candidates has a proven record of "Pay to Play" behavior.

The "TheFederalist" article seems to put more weight \ concern on the source of the information not the content of the information. hilary's already proven to have been bought buy the russians and delivered what they wanted.
Fixed it for you.



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How anyone at this point can fool themselves into believing or hoping that a scandal of her own creation is going to ruin her is baffling to me.


The bigger they are.....

She's slimy, crafty, and crooked. But she's NOT infallible.



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One of the most damning things about Clinton's email is that w over 2,000 classified emails on an unclassified private system, she has never indicated that even once she said "gee, is this ok to have on this system?".

2,000 opportunities to observe something may be wrong and she fails every time.


Great point, which indicates she knew exactly what she was doing.

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Why do they need knowledge or intent to prosecute? If I get pulled over for speeding, does it matter if I didn't know and didn't mean to? If she did it, plus lied to a judge about it, why do we need to prove she had intent? Shit happens, send her ass to jail.
 
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The laws about handling Classified material are quite clear that "intent" has nothing to do with it--ANY mishandling, for any reason, is subject to penalty. Absent-mindedly leaving a Classified document on a desk and leaving the area can put one in jail, even if no one else actually looked at it! The mere fact that the document was not properly secured is all that counts.

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2 of the 2 candidates has a proven record of "Pay to Play" behavior.

The "TheFederalist" article seems to put more weight \ concern on the source of the information not the content of the information. hilary's already proven to have been bought buy the russians and delivered what they wanted.
Fixed it for you.

Prove it.



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One word....teflon.


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Originally posted by braillediver:
2 of the 2 candidates has a proven record of "Pay to Play" behavior.

The "TheFederalist" article seems to put more weight \ concern on the source of the information not the content of the information. hilary's already proven to have been bought buy the russians and delivered what they wanted.
Fixed it for you.

Prove it.

Would you accept it if he admits to doing it?

http://www.nationalreview.com/...endez-solomon-melgen

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics...cs/story?id=32993736

http://www.wsj.com/articles/do...sactional-1438213199



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Originally posted by braillediver:
2 of the 2 candidates has a proven record of "Pay to Play" behavior.

The "TheFederalist" article seems to put more weight \ concern on the source of the information not the content of the information. hilary's already proven to have been bought buy the russians and delivered what they wanted.
Fixed it for you.

Prove it.

Would you accept it if he admits to doing it?

http://www.nationalreview.com/...endez-solomon-melgen

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics...cs/story?id=32993736

http://www.wsj.com/articles/do...sactional-1438213199

Admits to what? Campaign contributions?

Nice try, but a swing and a miss.



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more State Dept corruption

http://www.washingtonexaminer....-see/article/2599524

The State Department has stonewalled a pair of FOIA requests for schedules related to the highly-paid speeches Bill Clinton delivered while his wife served as secretary of state.

The former president's office circulated dozens of speech schedules among Hillary Clinton's staff between 2009 and 2013, creating more than 1,000 pages of details about who wrote Bill Clinton checks and why.

But the agency is arguing that Bill Clinton's activities are not subject to disclosure because he was a private citizen during Hillary Clinton's State Department tenure, even though his activities had enough relevance to her team that they regularly ended up in official inboxes.

The State Department has released just 14 pages, most of them heavily redacted, to the Republican National Committee in a FOIA lawsuit over the records. Agency officials fought to slow the production of the remaining pages until 2018.

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this would allow more confirmation of the linkage between Bill Clinton speeches and the resultant "pay back" from corruption in the State Dept

IMHO: Your "privacy" right ends when you keep getting hundreds of thousands of dollars from people benefiting from actions of your wife as Sec State
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by flashguy:
The laws about handling Classified material are quite clear that "intent" has nothing to do with it--ANY mishandling, for any reason, is subject to penalty. Absent-mindedly leaving a Classified document on a desk and leaving the area can put one in jail, even if no one else actually looked at it! The mere fact that the document was not properly secured is all that counts.

UNLESS you are a Clinton! U.S. code 461bullshit.


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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fbi-...pitol-012832236.html

FBI documents about the agency's investigation into Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server while secretary of state were being reviewed on Wednesday in secure rooms of the U.S. Capitol.

Lawmakers and select staff from some congressional committees could page through the material, parts of which are redacted, in large binders labeled "secret" that the Federal Bureau of Investigation turned over to Congress on Tuesday.

"The material contains classified and other sensitive information and is being provided with the expectation it will not be disseminated or disclosed without FBI concurrence," the agency said in a statement.
 
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"The material contains classified and other sensitive information and is being provided with the expectation it will not be disseminated or disclosed without FBI concurrence," the agency said in a statement.



The material is property of the citizens of the US, who you happen to work for. If the representatives that we elect to work on our behalf deem that the material needs to be disseminated then you can kindly concur or get bent.


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