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That is the more likely scenario. The Clintons are masters at hiding evidence.



Very true; and it was only remarkably bad fortune for them that they were caught this time. The cover-up was masterly, Hillary was the boss where the buck stopped, her underlings who did not like the private server BS, could pound sand, she was queen.

I never could figure out why Nixon didn't have a fire with his tapes, or why Hillary just didn't have the server and back-ups completely wiped.
The current investigation is about half of her emails, why didn't she simply delete them all and claim they were all cookie recipes?
Yes, we would scream, shout, and threaten, but we would have no proof.
 
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I have noticed that Huma et;al have been MARKEDLY absent over the past 6-8 weeks...as in maybe theyre on Uranus or something. It seems when these people disappear from view there is something afoot.


Maybe they are booked for a "special" flight that crashes and somehow puts a bullet in their head! That could never happen......right?
 
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That is the more likely scenario. The Clintons are masters at hiding evidence.



Very true; and it was only remarkably bad fortune for them that they were caught this time. The cover-up was masterly, Hillary was the boss where the buck stopped, her underlings who did not like the private server BS, could pound sand, she was queen.

I never could figure out why Nixon didn't have a fire with his tapes, or why Hillary just didn't have the server and back-ups completely wiped.
The current investigation is about half of her emails, why didn't she simply delete them all and claim they were all cookie recipes?
Yes, we would scream, shout, and threaten, but we would have no proof.


I don't think it'd be that easy. It would require a lot of people and organization to cooperate, digital data doesn't go away just because the source has been destroyed. It'd be harder to find all those emails, but they're out there.
 
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State Dept.: Clinton IT aide's email archive is lost.

http://thehill.com/policy/nati...from-clinton-it-aide

The State Department has lost all archived copies of the emails sent to and from the man believed to have set up and maintained Hillary Clinton’s private email server during the four years she served as secretary, it said on Monday.

However, the department has recovered some of IT specialist Bryan Pagliano’s messages, according to spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau, in apparent contradiction of a Republican National Committee (RNC) court filing earlier in the day.

“The department has searched for Mr. Pagliano’s email pst file and has not located one that covers the time period of Secretary Clinton’s tenure,” Trudeau said in a statement early on Monday evening. A pst file is a format for preserving email messages.

“The absence of this email file, however, does not indicate that the department has no emails sent or received by him,” she added. “In fact, we have previously produced through [the Freedom of Information Act] and to Congress emails sent and received by Mr. Pagliano during Secretary Clinton’s tenure.”

The State Department had previously told Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) that it could not find any backups of Pagliano’s email as part of a congressional probe in December, but its acknowledgment of the missing files on Monday nonetheless inflamed criticism of the agency’s recordkeeping practices.

Trudeau declined to comment on how or whether Pagliano stored his emails, or whether he might have decided to delete them after a certain period of time.

“It is not required for employees to save every email they sent and received, however they must preserve federal records,” she told reporters during the daily State Department briefing.

The RNC demanded the IT aide's records as part of a lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act filed earlier this year. The RNC went to court to obtain emails to and from Pagliano, among other records connected to Clinton’s time in office, as part of what is likely to be a protracted attack on the likely Democratic presidential nominee.

The State Department’s claim that it has found at least some messages to and from Pagliano, presumably through the accounts of other people that he communicated with, is at odds with a RNC filing earlier in the day, which made a more sweeping assertion.

“[T]he State Department has represented that no responsive records exist … [of] [a]ny and all emails sent to, or sent by, Bryan Pagliano for the time period May 1, 2009 through February 1, 2013,” the RNC said in a filing as part of the court case.

The State Department’s Monday evening statement, which came hours after the department first addressed the missing emails, seemed to take issue with the RNC’s description of its position.

“At no point did the State Department convey to the RNC that we did not intend to produce responsive emails within our possession, consistent with our obligations under the law,” Trudeau said in her statement. “As this matter is in ongoing litigation, as is standard, the department cannot comment further on this matter."

In addition to the emails, the State Department also does not have any text messages or BlackBerry Messenger messages sent to or from Clinton during her time in office, the RNC claimed. The State Department declined to discuss that declaration.

On Monday, federal Judge Amy Berman Jackson gave the State Department until May 23 to declare when it would hand documents over to the RNC or to file another motion.

Pagliano has emerged as a key figure in the growing saga surrounding Clinton’s controversial email setup.

After working on her 2008 campaign, Pagliano is reported to have set up the server in her Chappaqua, N.Y., home the following year and maintained it throughout her tenure as the nation’s top diplomat.

Earlier this year, the Justice Department granted Pagliano immunity in exchange for his cooperation with the FBI investigation connected to Clinton’s server, and the possibility that classified information may have been mishandled.

That investigation appears to be reaching its final stages, following reports in recent weeks that investigators and federal prosecutors have interviewed several Clinton aides. Clinton herself is expected to answer the government’s questions about the email setup in the coming days or weeks.


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Here's some interesting info from Megyn Kelly last night. Some bits I had never heard.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5VTQTsIBx4
 
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REPORT: Hillary’s Emails Hacked by Russia – Kremlin Deciding Whether to Release 20,000 Stolen Emails.



The Kremlin is debating whether to release the 20,000 emails they have hacked off of Hillary Clinton’s server.

According to a report from four days ago, beginning in 2011, the Russians began monitoring Romanian computer hacker Marcel Lazăr Lehel (aka Guccifer) after he attempted, unsuccessfully, to break into the computer system of the Russian funded RT television network.

After monitoring Guccifer, the Russians were reportedly able to record (both physically and electronically) his actions which allowed the Russian intelligence analysts, in 2013, to not only detect his breaking into the private computer of Secretary Clinton, but also break in and copy all of its contents as well.

The report notes that shortly after Russia obtained Clinton’s emails, they released a limited amount to RT TV which were published in an article in March 2013, titled Hillary Clinton’s ‘hacked’ Benghazi emails: FULL RELEASE.
hillary hacked emails

Apparently no Western journalists promoted this story in 2013.

A couple of years later, in 2016, the US then brought in Guccifer for questioning related to this incident. According to the report, NBC news knew why Guccifer was being questioned but withheld this information from the American public.

The Associated Press reported in October 2015 that “Hillary Clinton’s private email server maintained in her home while serving as secretary of State was possibly hacked by Russia-tied authorities, and others, on five separate occasions.”

The AP report noted that investigators discovered among Clinton’s cache of released emails malicious software aimed at transmitting data to three overseas computers, including at least one in Russia. This malicious software was reportedly activated by clicking on it; but in October it was not clear if Clinton actually opened these messages or not, per the AP.

Recently separate reports have come out noting that Guccifer had indeed hacked Clinton’s emails. Now according to this latest report, Clinton’s server was not only compromised by Guccifer but also by Russia. Guccifer told FOX News last week that he hacked Hillary’s homebrew server and so did at least 10 others.



http://www.thegatewaypundit.co...20000-emails-hacked/
 
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Assuming 'any' of what's been reported to have occurred did indeed occur, I don't see how Hillary escapes prosecution if we are to continue as a country. I'm sure Comey is weighing that very reality.

And at this point, it would make far more sense for the Russians to hold onto the majority of those emails (assuming they have them), and hope Hillary makes it into the White House this fall. Talk about holding personal leverage over a sitting president. Wow!


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I always hope for bad news for Clinton.

But the story about the Russians needs more proof.

The link to the RT article has been known for some time. I think it is referenced back in this thread.

And the RT article from Mar 2013 shows a jpg of part of an email from Blumenthal to Clinton.

Note that the email could have been obtained by just hacking Blumenthal.

The same email was released by State Dept.
 
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But the story about the Russians needs more proof.

It's tempting to believe that if they actually had anything then they'd have tossed a bit of it out to the news media when all the information about Russians banking in Panama came out. That would have still left them with a couple of grenades in the stash on the off chance that Hill wins the election.
 
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REPORT: Hillary’s Emails Hacked by Russia – Kremlin Deciding Whether to Release 20,000 Stolen Emails.


C'mon Putin! Let them fly. Preferably sorted and posted in priority order of damage...




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Oddly find myself rooting for the Russians to release OUR national security secrets.

Then again, if they have them, they aren't so damn secret, are they?


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Oddly find myself rooting for the Russians to release OUR national security secrets.

Then again, if they have them, they aren't so damn secret, are they?


Putin is just spanking us over the last 7 years. FML


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Putin is just spanking us over the last 7 years. FML








 
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Post them up, Putin, please.

I haven't lost faith in the FBI yet, but the light is dimming. I want to know exactly what is missing and how corrupt she is. Rather I should say, I want obvious proof that cannot be denied by her and her supporters. End her, now.
 
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Post them up, Putin, please.

I haven't lost faith in the FBI yet, but the light is dimming. I want to know exactly what is missing and how corrupt she is. Rather I should say, I want obvious proof that cannot be denied by her and her supporters. End her, now.



That's it, sir. Yup Smile

She cannot get away with this and if she does, then the precedent is clearly set.




 
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ISIS! Does ISIS have any of Hilary's emails? They are the only ones who haven't yet claimed to have some.

Oh yeah, the Rastafarians and the Mormon Church haven't yet spoken up.

Sounds like everyone has some of them but the State Department.

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This is disturbing that DoJ is putting limits on FBI questions.

Remember Mills has been identified as a key person in sorting put the "personal" emails.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...2906536261&tid=ss_tw

near the beginning of a recent interview, an FBI investigator broached a topic with longtime Hillary Clinton aide Cheryl Mills that her lawyer and the Justice Department had agreed would be off limits, according to several people familiar with the matter.

Mills and her lawyer left the room — though both returned a short time later — and prosecutors were somewhat taken aback that their FBI colleague had ventured beyond what was anticipated, the people said.

Investigators consider Mills — who served as chief of staff while Clinton was secretary of state — to be a cooperative witness.

But the episode demonstrates some of the tension surrounding the criminal probe into possible mishandling of classified information involving the leading Democratic presidential candidate.

The incident was described to The Washington Post by several people, including U.S. law enforcement officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity

Mills and her lawyer, Beth Wilkinson, also asked for breaks more than once to confer, the people said.

The questions that were considered off limits had to do with the procedure used to produce emails to the State Department so they could possibly be released publicly , the people said.

Mills, an attorney herself, was not supposed to be asked questions about that — and ultimately never was in the recent interview — because it was considered confidential as an example of attorney-client privilege, the people said.
 
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Hillary has raked in nearly $75,000 in campaign contributions from DOJ employees.

Gee, I sure hope they will be impartial when it comes to prosecuting her. Roll Eyes

http://freebeacon.com/issues/h...epartment-employees/

Hillary Clinton has received nearly $75,000 in political contributions from employees at the Department of Justice, the agency that would decide whether or not to act if the FBI recommended charges against Clinton or her aides following its investigation into her private email server.

Justice Department employees have given Clinton far more money than her rivals, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) and Donald Trump, according to a review of federal campaign contributions for the 2016 presidential cycle.

Clinton collected $73,437 from individuals who listed the “Department of Justice” as their employer. Twelve of the 228 contributions were for $2,700, the maximum individual amount allowed by law.

The fundraising haul marks a dramatic increase over Clinton’s unsuccessful presidential run in 2008, when she took in 23 contributions totaling $15,930 from employees at the agency, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

Trump, by comparison, has received little help from Justice Department employees, recording just two contributions for a total of $381.

Sanders has taken 51 donations totaling $8,900 from Justice Department employees.

David Bossie, president of the watchdog group Citizens United, told the Washington Free Beacon he is not surprised by the donations, and renewed his call for Attorney General Loretta Lynch to appoint a special counsel to handle Clinton’s case.

“I’m not surprised in the least to see more evidence that shows the politicization of the Justice Department,” Bossie said in a statement to the Free Beacon. “How can Democrat political appointees fairly investigate someone who is about to become their nominee for president? That’s why last July I called on Attorney General Lynch to appoint an impartial special counsel to investigate the private Clinton email server.”

“Today, I renew my call that Attorney General Lynch must appoint a special counsel to determine if Hillary Clinton or her agents broke the law and compromised our national security,” he continued. “This investigation needs to be conducted free of political influence once and for all.”

Bossie has questioned whether Lynch could remain impartial due to her past political donations. Lynch gave $10,700 in contributions to Democratic candidates between 2004 and 2008.

Howard Krongard, who was inspector general for the State Department from 2005 to 2008, predicted earlier this year that even if the FBI referred Clinton’s case to the Justice Department for prosecution it would “never get to an indictment.”

Krongard said the case would have to go through “four loyal Democratic women,” including Lynch, top White House adviser Valerie Jarrett, Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, and Assistant Attorney General Leslie Caldwell, who heads the department’s criminal division.

The FBI is expected to interview Clinton in the coming weeks about her email practices. Clinton maintains that she has not been contacted by the FBI about an interview. However, the FBI has interviewed Clinton’s aides, including top adviser Huma Abedin.

The Justice Department did not return a request for comment.

Update 05/10/16: After publication, former U.S. Attorney Matthew Whitaker, who directs the watchdog group Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust, called for a special counsel to investigate Hillary Clinton.

“The report out today that Hillary Clinton received almost $75,000 in political contributions from Justice Department employees is yet another reason why the Justice Department cannot and should not decide whether to bring a case against Hillary Clinton for her reckless handling of classified information while Secretary of State,” Whitaker said in a statement. “The decision of whether or not to bring a case against Clinton will be a difficult one for Attorney General Loretta Lynch, as I don’t believe she has the fortitude to oppose President Obama, who has publicly said Clinton’s behavior didn’t put our national security at risk. Since this Administration has shown no ability to be impartial, looking the other way at every turn of this investigation, I’m renewing an urgent call for the appointment of a special counsel in this case.”



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Not a damned thing will happen to Hilary.
Nothing.
They let the IRS blatantly and illegally discriminate against Conservatives and what happened - Nothing.
They let the Black Panther Radicals on camera intimidate voters illegally and what happened - Nothing.
They covered up incompetence in Benghazi and what happened - Nothing.
Nothing will happen to her.
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